Will socialism happen here?

[gabbyguy]

If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that most if not all of the European countries are far more socialist than we are. And they seem to be doing just fine. (That is except for letting overpopulating, women hating, clit removing, women raping, mostly gay, lying and often violent pedophile muslims into their countries) I hear that an extension to stopping evictions is part of the new stimulus package deal. But how long will that last. How long can it last. All the while, the amount of rent renters owe just keeps building up. No doubt, for many who have found themselves out of work due to the coronavirus, the rent they probably owe is already far more than they could afford to pay back. Even if they did so a little at a time.

Seeing how it isn't likely that renters are going to receive a $12,000 dollar rent payment stimulus check, I think the only way out is an extension of socialism in this country. Because I doubt if this country is just going to tell landlords that they have to eat their lost rent. Though there could be other ways for the government to compensate landlords. If that can't be done, maybe what the government needs to do is to outright buy the rental properties from the landlords. Make it a sort of section 8 housing. Where what renters pay for rent depends on their earnings. What do you think.

 

[TNHarley]

Give the federal govt more power because states fucked everyone over.
Great idea!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

without reading the op,just going by the thread title ,if Biden gets in,thats a given.

 

[WinterBorn]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

without reading the op,just going by the thread title ,if Biden gets in,thats a given.

Biden wants Chinese communism. He is working really hard to get it here.

 

[BULLDOG]

Socialism is already here. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to take advantage of Social Security, Police/Fire department, Interstate highways, military defense, or library's, schools, and all the other wonderful things that socialism provides for us..

 

[Ben Thomson]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

To a right winger if your against corporate greed or think it's the government's job to make sure the playing field is level, well than your a commie..

 

[gabbyguy]

Give the federal govt more power because states fucked everyone over.
Great idea!

Did you not hear me mention European countries. They are only the size of states to begin with. But they are actual countries. If what they do works, we should do the same. But minus all those who are ready, willing and able to bend tacos. Things can't get bad enough here to make all the illegals want to keep out. Let alone leave.

 

[gabbyguy]

without reading the op,just going by the thread title ,if Biden gets in,thats a given.

Read the thread. You might learn something.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

That's candy coating things. And it's naive....if not deceptive.

Socialism PERIOD requires the government control of the means of production.

ALL those other things you mention are simply smoke and mirrors to get more morons onboard with it.

If you don't want government taking over the means of production, then STOP calling it Socialism.

 

[gabbyguy]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

No. We don't need to be democratic socialists. We need to be national socialists. What the hell good is "democracy" when that democracy is extended to the rest of the world. In that case, for Americans, it becomes EVIL!!! ANY poor person in the U.S. would be astonished by the level of grinding poverty that exists in other parts of the world. Including south of the border. For White people, if protecting yourself means becoming "racist," then the more racist you are the better.

 

[gabbyguy]

without reading the op,just going by the thread title ,if Biden gets in,thats a given.

Biden wants Chinese communism. He is working really hard to get it here.

But what do they have in China? Chinese! So any Chinese like communism here would be more tyrannical here than it could ever be in China.

 

[gabbyguy]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

To a right winger if your against corporate greed or think it's the government's job to make sure the playing field is level, well than your a commie..

Yes. There seems to be no in between to a right winger. I have a short but interesting video for you.

 

[Dick Foster]

If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that most if not all of the European countries are far more socialist than we are. And they seem to be doing just fine. (That is except for letting overpopulating, women hating, clit removing, women raping, mostly gay, lying and often violent pedophile muslims into their countries) I hear that an extension to stopping evictions is part of the new stimulus package deal. But how long will that last. How long can it last. All the while, the amount of rent renters owe just keeps building up. No doubt, for many who have found themselves out of work due to the coronavirus, the rent they probably owe is already far more than they could afford to pay back. Even if they did so a little at a time.

Seeing how it isn't likely that renters are going to receive a $12,000 dollar rent payment stimulus check, I think the only way out is an extension of socialism in this country. Because I doubt if this country is just going to tell landlords that they have to eat their lost rent. Though there could be other ways for the government to compensate landlords. If that can't be done, maybe what the government needs to do is to outright buy the rental properties from the landlords. Make it a sort of section 8 housing. Where what renters pay for rent depends on their earnings. What do you think.

It has already started here. FDR got the ball rolling a long time ago and it has been growing and becoming more pervasive ever since.

 

[gabbyguy]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

That's candy coating things. And it's naive....if not deceptive.

Socialism PERIOD requires the government control of the means of production.

ALL those other things you mention are simply smoke and mirrors to get more morons onboard with it.

If you don't want government taking over the means of production, then STOP calling it Socialism.

Sending jobs overseas was like a stake through the heart of unions. Unions led to an end to child labor, better pay, shorter work weeks, safer working conditions, etc. Without them, socialism is the next logical alternative. Also, as Bulldog said, the government runs Social Security. I would hate to see what it would look like if it was run privately. The government also runs the military, police and fire departments, highways, librarys and schools. I would hate to see what those things would be like if they were privately run. Also, down in what I think was Peru at one time, they privatized the water department. So many people couldn't even afford to drink water. And they made it illegal to collect rain water!

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

That's candy coating things. And it's naive....if not deceptive.

Socialism PERIOD requires the government control of the means of production.

ALL those other things you mention are simply smoke and mirrors to get more morons onboard with it.

If you don't want government taking over the means of production, then STOP calling it Socialism.

Sending jobs overseas was like a stake through the heart of unions. Unions led to an end to child labor, better pay, shorter work weeks, safer working conditions, etc. Without them, socialism is the next logical alternative. Also, as Bulldog said, the government runs Social Security. I would hate to see what it would look like if it was run privately. The government also runs the military, police and fire departments, highways, librarys and schools. I would hate to see what those things would be like if they were privately run. Also, down in what I think was Peru at one time, they privatized the water department. So many people couldn't even afford to drink water. And they made it illegal to collect rain water!

Social Security IS NOT SOCIALISM !

People, PLEASE learn what the hell you are supporting before you talk about it.

SWEET JAY ZUZ !!!!

 

[gabbyguy]

If you ever saw the documentary "Where to invade next," you would know that most if not all of the European countries are far more socialist than we are. And they seem to be doing just fine. (That is except for letting overpopulating, women hating, clit removing, women raping, mostly gay, lying and often violent pedophile muslims into their countries) I hear that an extension to stopping evictions is part of the new stimulus package deal. But how long will that last. How long can it last. All the while, the amount of rent renters owe just keeps building up. No doubt, for many who have found themselves out of work due to the coronavirus, the rent they probably owe is already far more than they could afford to pay back. Even if they did so a little at a time.

Seeing how it isn't likely that renters are going to receive a $12,000 dollar rent payment stimulus check, I think the only way out is an extension of socialism in this country. Because I doubt if this country is just going to tell landlords that they have to eat their lost rent. Though there could be other ways for the government to compensate landlords. If that can't be done, maybe what the government needs to do is to outright buy the rental properties from the landlords. Make it a sort of section 8 housing. Where what renters pay for rent depends on their earnings. What do you think.

It has already started here. FDR got the ball rolling a long time ago and it has been growing and becoming more pervasive ever since.

As far as I know, the only thing FDR successfully accomplished was Social Security. All of those other things he mentioned in the video are still pie in the sky. As for putting Americans to work, not even he could do that to the extent needed. He needed to goad the Japanese into attacking and secretly let it happen to get the U.S. behind war. Which turned our economy around. Also, from what I heard, Biden wants to create 8 million jobs. If he want's to do anything, he's going to have to do a LOT better than that. We need around 40 million good paying jobs.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

By the way.....for all you people who have no clue what Socialism really is.......

Look up Venezuela.

That's the most recent example of where LEFTISTS ACHIEVED THE GREATEST SUCCESS AND INSTITUTED REAL SOCIALISM

No matter how much uninformed people sugar coat it or say how different it will be "Next Time".....it's always the same.

Socialism is a FAILED idea created by those understanding the ignorance of the masses, to grab absolute power.

For you socialists.....what kind of government does Venezuela have now after the Left fully succeeded there?

 

[gabbyguy]

So many posts and hand-wringing about becoming a socialist nation.

I only wish more people understood the differences between being a Marxist socialist, a communist, and a Democratic Socialist. A Democratic Socialist is still a capitalist. They simply want to restrain the destructive excesses of unrestrained capitalism. And they want to gov't's use of tax dollars to be used for the betterment of all citizens, not just the few.

That's candy coating things. And it's naive....if not deceptive.

Socialism PERIOD requires the government control of the means of production.

ALL those other things you mention are simply smoke and mirrors to get more morons onboard with it.

If you don't want government taking over the means of production, then STOP calling it Socialism.

Sending jobs overseas was like a stake through the heart of unions. Unions led to an end to child labor, better pay, shorter work weeks, safer working conditions, etc. Without them, socialism is the next logical alternative. Also, as Bulldog said, the government runs Social Security. I would hate to see what it would look like if it was run privately. The government also runs the military, police and fire departments, highways, librarys and schools. I would hate to see what those things would be like if they were privately run. Also, down in what I think was Peru at one time, they privatized the water department. So many people couldn't even afford to drink water. And they made it illegal to collect rain water!

Social Security IS NOT SOCIALISM !

People, PLEASE learn what the hell you are supporting before you talk about it.

SWEET JAY ZUZ !!!!

Anything where people aren't paying their own way is socialism.

 

[gabbyguy]

By the way.....for all you people who have no clue what Socialism really is.......

Look up Venezuela.

That's the most recent example of where LEFTISTS ACHIEVED THE GREATEST SUCCESS AND INSTITUTED REAL SOCIALISM

No matter how much uninformed people sugar coat it or say how different it will be "Next Time".....it's always the same.

Socialism is a FAILED idea created by those understanding the ignorance of the masses, to grab absolute power.

For you socialists.....what kind of government does Venezuela have now after the Left fully succeeded there?

First of all, you can't compare White Americans to a bunch of third world indians and mestizos. And our country is far better than their little hot and humid sweat box country. All that aside, do you even realize why they went to socialism to begin with? Because capitalism was an utter failure. Do you know what their country would be like if they went back to a capitalist society? An utter failure. If you're going to slam socialism, then by all means use Venezuela as an example. But if you tried someplace like Sweden. Then you would have nothing to bitch about.