Will Mueller find any evidence that the Trump-Russia connection is worthy of indictment?

[kyzr]

Just came across these two wiki pages and read them. They are long reads, but worth the time to understand the items that Mueller is investigating. Really looking forward to Mueller's report since there is a lot of smoke to investigate, i.e. Russian offers to Trump, but no clear evidence that Trump "conspired". Russia seemed more interested in promoting violence between various factions across the US than helping Trump win by releasing Hillary's emails for example. Remember, Trump had no chance of winning, Hillary had the election won by a landslide, according to all the polls, so Putin needed to keep her emails available to blackmail her when she won.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

 

[JimBowie1958]

If it was there surely two years would have been enough time to find it.

Now Muellers investigation is little more than a purge of Trump supporters for various crimes these Hillary supporters can tag on some innocent.

 

[Crepitus]

He already has. Look at the list of indictments and guilty pleas.

 

[rightwinger]

I doubt if Mueller will find a smoking gun where Trump offered policy concessions for assistance in winning an election

I believe he will find illegal meetings with a foreign government that were not reported
Unreported financial dealings with foreign nations
Campaign finance violations
Obstruction of justice
Money laundering
Illicit business dealings
And many more

 

[rightwinger]

I believe there will be multiple indictable offenses for Trump, his family and his staff

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If it was there surely two years would have been enough time to find it.

Now Muellers investigation is little more than a purge of Trump supporters for various crimes these Hillary supporters can tag on some innocent.

It took Starr almost 6 years to find lying about a blow job...Mueller has a long way to go to match that timeline.

 

[Ambivalent1]

He already has. Look at the list of indictments and guilty pleas.

You mean the ones for process "crimes" that have nothing to with ole Donnie? Keep hoping.

 

[rightwinger]

He already has. Look at the list of indictments and guilty pleas.

You mean the ones for process "crimes" that have nothing to with ole Donnie? Keep hoping.

You don’t understand plea bargains do you?
You plead guilty to lesser charges in return for information in prosecuting more serious crimes

Guess who the target of the more serious crimes is?

 

[kyzr]

I doubt if Mueller will find a smoking gun where Trump offered policy concessions for assistance in winning an election

I believe he will find illegal meetings with a foreign government that were not reported
Unreported financial dealings with foreign nations
Campaign finance violations
Obstruction of justice
Money laundering
Illicit business dealings
And many more

I can whittle down your list of potential crimes somewhat:
1. There is no evidence obstruction, so says Dershowitz
2. Campaign finance violations regarding hush money , so says Dershowitz Dershowitz: Candidate Entitled To Pay Hush Money, Committed No Election Crime

How about a link or two for the others? Especially the "many more"...that won't go away due to the statute of limitations if Trump wins in 2020.

 

[forkup]

He already has. Look at the list of indictments and guilty pleas.

You mean the ones for process "crimes" that have nothing to with ole Donnie? Keep hoping.

You don't think lying about a meeting with the Russian ambassador about sanction relief has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think indicting Russians who hacked his opponents campaign manager has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think that his lawyer admitting to and implicating "Donnie" for campaign finance violations has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think his foundation being forced to shut down for not being a charitable foundation at all has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think that being sued for profiting directly from his position has anything to do with "Donnie"
That's simply what Mueller and the DOJ has so far deemed worthy of prosecution.
Then we have things as meetings with Russians and PERSONALLY dictating the lie to deny it.
Demanding the AG directly interfere in the investigation live and on Twitter.
Saying he fired the FBI director because that investigation on camera.
Lying about business deals to build a tower in Moscow.
Not to mention a more general look at the financial dealings of a guy notorious for borrowing large amounts of money and going bankrupt.

 

[Lesh]

Just came across these two wiki pages and read them. They are long reads, but worth the time to understand the items that Mueller is investigating. Really looking forward to Mueller's report since there is a lot of smoke to investigate, i.e. Russian offers to Trump, but no clear evidence that Trump "conspired". Russia seemed more interested in promoting violence between various factions across the US than helping Trump win by releasing Hillary's emails for example. Remember, Trump had no chance of winning, Hillary had the election won by a landslide, according to all the polls, so Putin needed to keep her emails available to blackmail her when she won.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Wait...you give a pass to Trump based on what is posted in wikipedia?

That's ******* flat out stupid

 

[Crepitus]

He already has. Look at the list of indictments and guilty pleas.

You mean the ones for process "crimes" that have nothing to with ole Donnie? Keep hoping.

Lol, it cracks me up that you kids pretend not to understand how plea bargain work and expect us to believe you.

 

[bullwinkle]

I believe there will be multiple indictable offenses for Trump, his family and his staff

I believe Trump is so crooked he will have to be buried with a corkscrew, but so far all we have is speculation on both sides. Sure there are signs, like those already indicted and those who have already plead guilty, but as yet there is no valid indictment against Trump for conspiracy to collude with his BFF Vlad. If we really want justice, we will have to wait until the investigation is concluded...and accept that conclusion either way. Much as it galls me, Donald Trump is an American with an American right to justice as much as anyone else. He isn't above the law, but he isn't beneath is either. I don't like his leadership (or lack thereof) but if he is charged, I want it to be absolutely true, not somebody's vengeful hope.

 

[forkup]

I doubt if Mueller will find a smoking gun where Trump offered policy concessions for assistance in winning an election

I believe he will find illegal meetings with a foreign government that were not reported
Unreported financial dealings with foreign nations
Campaign finance violations
Obstruction of justice
Money laundering
Illicit business dealings
And many more

I can whittle down your list of potential crimes somewhat:
1. There is no evidence obstruction, so says Dershowitz
2. Campaign finance violations regarding hush money , so says Dershowitz Dershowitz: Candidate Entitled To Pay Hush Money, Committed No Election Crime

How about a link or two for the others? Especially the "many more"...that won't go away due to the statute of limitations if Trump wins in 2020.

Dershowitz actually doesn't take one thing in consideration. In the precedents he gave NONE of the presidents simply admitted that the investigation that was being run was the reason they interfered.

 

[kyzr]

Just came across these two wiki pages and read them. They are long reads, but worth the time to understand the items that Mueller is investigating. Really looking forward to Mueller's report since there is a lot of smoke to investigate, i.e. Russian offers to Trump, but no clear evidence that Trump "conspired". Russia seemed more interested in promoting violence between various factions across the US than helping Trump win by releasing Hillary's emails for example. Remember, Trump had no chance of winning, Hillary had the election won by a landslide, according to all the polls, so Putin needed to keep her emails available to blackmail her when she won.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Wait...you give a pass to Trump based on what is posted in wikipedia?

That's ******* flat out stupid

Is it a "pass" or that the CIA and FBI who were monitoring the Trump campaign didn't see anything illegal during the campaign? Obama wanted the Trump campaign under surveillance, and even warned Trump not to hire Flynn, so unless Mueller dredges up old crimes, like for Manafort, I'm not assuming Trump is guilty of "conspiracy".
You have anything current on Trump?

 

[forkup]

Just came across these two wiki pages and read them. They are long reads, but worth the time to understand the items that Mueller is investigating. Really looking forward to Mueller's report since there is a lot of smoke to investigate, i.e. Russian offers to Trump, but no clear evidence that Trump "conspired". Russia seemed more interested in promoting violence between various factions across the US than helping Trump win by releasing Hillary's emails for example. Remember, Trump had no chance of winning, Hillary had the election won by a landslide, according to all the polls, so Putin needed to keep her emails available to blackmail her when she won.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

Wait...you give a pass to Trump based on what is posted in wikipedia?

That's ******* flat out stupid

Is it a "pass" or that the CIA and FBI who were monitoring the Trump campaign didn't see anything illegal during the campaign? Obama wanted the Trump campaign under surveillance, and even warned Trump not to hire Flynn, so unless Mueller dredges up old crimes, like for Manafort, I'm not assuming Trump is guilty of "conspiracy".
You have anything current on Trump?

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[Lesh]

So because you claim that the CIA and FBI didn't see it coming...we should ignore it?

"Obama wanted the Trump campaign under surveillance" realy ? Care to explain that nonsense? Because it has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama telling Trump not to hire Flynn because it was KNOWN that he was compromised...

And Mueller has already indicted and prosecuted numerous figures and there are more to come...none of which you nor wiki have the details of

 

[Oddball]

He already has. Look at the list of indictments and guilty pleas.

You mean the ones for process "crimes" that have nothing to with ole Donnie? Keep hoping.

You don't think lying about a meeting with the Russian ambassador about sanction relief has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think indicting Russians who hacked his opponents campaign manager has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think that his lawyer admitting to and implicating "Donnie" for campaign finance violations has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think his foundation being forced to shut down for not being a charitable foundation at all has anything to do with "Donnie"?
You don't think that being sued for profiting directly from his position has anything to do with "Donnie"
That's simply what Mueller and the DOJ has so far deemed worthy of prosecution.
Then we have things as meetings with Russians and PERSONALLY dictating the lie to deny it.
Demanding the AG directly interfere in the investigation live and on Twitter.
Saying he fired the FBI director because that investigation on camera.
Lying about business deals to build a tower in Moscow.
Not to mention a more general look at the financial dealings of a guy notorious for borrowing large amounts of money and going bankrupt.