Will Israel have to pay up now?

Will Israel have to pay up now?

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Bleipriester

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Trump said US allies will have to pay up for protection in the future. Do you think the new policy includes Israel?
 

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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
 

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It won't take Trump long to learn his place.
 
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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
No, it is free aid. Look it up in the footnotes:
Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

Please explain how Israel protects Europe and from what.
 

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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
Israel has never paid back one red cent.


Congressional Research Service ˜ The Library of Congress

SUMMARY Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy. Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel. Since 1976, Israel has been the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, and is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II. In addition to U.S. assistance, it is estimated that Israel receives about $1 billion annually through philanthropy, an equal amount through short- and long- term commercial loans, and around $1 billion in Israel Bonds proceeds. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu told a joint session of Congress on July 10, 1996, that Israel would reduce its need for U.S. aid over the next four years. In January 1998, Finance Minister Neeman proposed eliminating the $1.2 billion economic aid and increasing the $1.8 billion in military aid by $60 million per year during a 10-year period beginning in the year 2000. The FY1999 through 2005 appropriations bills included cuts of $120 million in economic aid and an increase of $60 million in military aid for each year. U.S. aid to Israel has some unique aspects, such as loans with repayment waived, or a pledge to provide Israel with economic assistance equal to the amount Israel owes the United States for previous loans. Israel also receives special benefits that may not be available to other countries, such as the use of U.S. military assistance for research and development in the United States, the use of U.S. military assistance for military purchases in Israel, or receiving all its assistance in the first 30 days of the fiscal year rather than in 3 or 4 installments as other countries do. In addition to the foreign assistance, the United States has provided Israel with $625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow antimissile missile (an ongoing project), $1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled), $200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative), $130 million to develop the high energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing), and other military projects. In FY2000 the United States provided Israel an additional $1.2 billion to fund the Wye agreement, and in FY2002 the United States provided an additional $200 million in anti-terror assistance.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/IB85066.pdf
 

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On the other hand:

Israel Economy Facts & Stats

On the international scene, Israel ranks number 16 out of 187 countries in the human development index of the United Nations. Look at the primary industries of this small country. These sectors include metal, electronics, biomedical equipment, chemicals, transport equipment, processed food, and some agricultural commodities. Israel is also famous for the cutting and polishing of diamonds. However, the country has limited natural resources because of limited land area.

Israel relies on petroleum imports as well as raw materials. Yet, discovery of natural gas can reduce dependence on energy imports. The Jewish nation earned the moniker of Silicon Wadi because of the massive concentration of high technology industries in this country. It is similar to the heralded Silicon Valley of the United States. Many Israeli firms have been purchased or are working with multinationals because of personnel efficiency and expertise. For instance, the very first subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway outside the USA was Israel. It acquired ISCAR Metal Works.

Israel joined the OECD in September 2010. The government also forged free trade concords with the United States and the European Free Trade Association as well as the MERCOSUR Trade Bloc. It has economic ties with Canada, Egypt, Jordan, Mexico, and Turkey. Israel is outstanding in terms of technological skills, research and development, and availability of venture capital. It is number one when it comes to scientists, engineers, start-up per capita (quantity), and investments (venture capital). It belongs to the 34 most progressive countries worldwide.
 

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How exactly is America "defending" Israel, moron? Has a single American soldier ever fought in any of Israel's victorious wars? America will get even closer to Israel under Trump. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
 

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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
Israel has never paid back one red cent.


Congressional Research Service ˜ The Library of Congress

SUMMARY Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy. Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel. Since 1976, Israel has been the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, and is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II. In addition to U.S. assistance, it is estimated that Israel receives about $1 billion annually through philanthropy, an equal amount through short- and long- term commercial loans, and around $1 billion in Israel Bonds proceeds. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu told a joint session of Congress on July 10, 1996, that Israel would reduce its need for U.S. aid over the next four years. In January 1998, Finance Minister Neeman proposed eliminating the $1.2 billion economic aid and increasing the $1.8 billion in military aid by $60 million per year during a 10-year period beginning in the year 2000. The FY1999 through 2005 appropriations bills included cuts of $120 million in economic aid and an increase of $60 million in military aid for each year. U.S. aid to Israel has some unique aspects, such as loans with repayment waived, or a pledge to provide Israel with economic assistance equal to the amount Israel owes the United States for previous loans. Israel also receives special benefits that may not be available to other countries, such as the use of U.S. military assistance for research and development in the United States, the use of U.S. military assistance for military purchases in Israel, or receiving all its assistance in the first 30 days of the fiscal year rather than in 3 or 4 installments as other countries do. In addition to the foreign assistance, the United States has provided Israel with $625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow antimissile missile (an ongoing project), $1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled), $200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative), $130 million to develop the high energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing), and other military projects. In FY2000 the United States provided Israel an additional $1.2 billion to fund the Wye agreement, and in FY2002 the United States provided an additional $200 million in anti-terror assistance.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/IB85066.pdf
How about we start with the 800 million we as their largest donors send to the Paleshitians who are Islamo-terrorists we know will never pay us back, and danced on 9-11?
 

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To answer a bunch of you;
I think some are confusing the higher anount loan guarantees with lower amount aid. The aid is given to many countries and benefits the U.S. and it's interest. In the case of Israel US interest puts Israel at risk so aid helps in protecting from that risk but also help maintain stability thus protecting Europe by having Israel well equiped and acting as a buffer.
The loan guarantees help Israel get lower interest loans through such backing.
I remember many times hearing that those loans are paid back(gov't officials on TV), but online you get propaganda saying it's never paid back so consider the source or confusion over debt and aid.
Those loans aren't even through the US they are just backed by the US insuring it gets paid.
 

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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
No, it is free aid. Look it up in the footnotes:
Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

Please explain how Israel protects Europe and from what.






We have had this before and you still make your false claims

How can it be free when Israel has to hand over so much in return. Just a few of the conditions

Can only be used to buy American goods at full price
Medical supplies at cost to US hospitals
R&D of defense to be given to US defense industry, and new technology provided at reduced costs
Can not opt out unless the US agrees first, and then reviewed by the US

What islam gets is free as most of it is paid into Swiss bank accounts and the remainder is used to buy weapons form China and Russia
 
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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
No, it is free aid. Look it up in the footnotes:
Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

Please explain how Israel protects Europe and from what.






We have had this before and you still make your false claims

How can it be free when Israel has to hand over so much in return. Just a few of the conditions

Can only be used to buy American goods at full price
Medical supplies at cost to US hospitals
R&D of defense to be given to US defense industry, and new technology provided at reduced costs
Can not opt out unless the US agrees first, and then reviewed by the US

What islam gets is free as most of it is paid into Swiss bank accounts and the remainder is used to buy weapons form China and Russia
We are not talking about the free 10 year 38 bn USD package. And again, can only be used to buy American goods at full price within the first 5 years.

To all those, who have been bombarded with propaganda: Since 1984, US military aid to Israel is free. Grants, no loans.

I am going to post this screenshot as you will deny it as long as you can for unknown reasons:


Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library
 

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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
No, it is free aid. Look it up in the footnotes:
Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

Please explain how Israel protects Europe and from what.






We have had this before and you still make your false claims

How can it be free when Israel has to hand over so much in return. Just a few of the conditions

Can only be used to buy American goods at full price
Medical supplies at cost to US hospitals
R&D of defense to be given to US defense industry, and new technology provided at reduced costs
Can not opt out unless the US agrees first, and then reviewed by the US

What islam gets is free as most of it is paid into Swiss bank accounts and the remainder is used to buy weapons form China and Russia
We are not talking about the free 10 year 38 bn USD package. And again, can only be used to buy American goods at full price within the first 5 years.

To all those, who have been bombarded with propaganda: Since 1984, US military aid to Israel is free. Grants, no loans.

I am going to post this screenshot as you will deny it as long as you can for unknown reasons:


Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library






Weare talking about every AID DEAL between Israel and the US that have the same common traits. Did you read the legend to your screenshot then as it says


^ Military aid: 1959-1973 (Loans); 1974-1984 (Loans & Grants); 1984-Present (Grants)
* Economic aid is combination of grants and loans. Israel stopped receiving economic aid of any sort in 2007
° Refugee resettlement aid is earmarked for the Jewish Agency/United Israel Appeal to help transport and resettle immigrants in Israel. It was primarily used to help Soviet immigrants in the 1980s and 1990s. Tody it is used for Ethiopian immigrants.
** This is funding allocated to American Schools and Hospitals Abroad (ASHA)
Includes Food for Peace (loans & grants); Export-Import Bank aid; Housing Loans; Cooperative Development aid; and, others.
# Includes $1.92 billion in regular military assistance and $1.2 billion for implementation of the Wye Agreement.





All costs to israel so making the aid anything but free
 

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Say shalom, Achmed:

 

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Israel if I'm not mistaken pays back on it's debt, but in reality Israel is protecting Europe which is why they are despised by those rogue nations seeing Israel as a hinderance to the bigger picture.
I don't know if you can call telling Israel to take pot shot scuds & do nothing to defend itself during the gulf war an act of protection.
No, it is free aid. Look it up in the footnotes:
Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

Please explain how Israel protects Europe and from what.






We have had this before and you still make your false claims

How can it be free when Israel has to hand over so much in return. Just a few of the conditions

Can only be used to buy American goods at full price
Medical supplies at cost to US hospitals
R&D of defense to be given to US defense industry, and new technology provided at reduced costs
Can not opt out unless the US agrees first, and then reviewed by the US

What islam gets is free as most of it is paid into Swiss bank accounts and the remainder is used to buy weapons form China and Russia
We are not talking about the free 10 year 38 bn USD package. And again, can only be used to buy American goods at full price within the first 5 years.

To all those, who have been bombarded with propaganda: Since 1984, US military aid to Israel is free. Grants, no loans.

I am going to post this screenshot as you will deny it as long as you can for unknown reasons:


Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library
The Jewish Virtual Library is a propaganda organ. It publishes pro-Israel/Zionism lies. The facts are reported by the United States Congressional Research Service which states in part:

"SUMMARY Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy. Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel. Since 1976, Israel has been the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, and is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II. In addition to U.S. assistance, it is estimated that Israel receives about $1 billion annually through philanthropy, an equal amount through short- and long- term commercial loans, and around $1 billion in Israel Bonds proceeds. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu told a joint session of Congress on July 10, 1996, that Israel would reduce its need for U.S. aid over the next four years. In January 1998, Finance Minister Neeman proposed eliminating the $1.2 billion economic aid and increasing the $1.8 billion in military aid by $60 million per year during a 10-year period beginning in the year 2000. The FY1999 through 2005 appropriations bills included cuts of $120 million in economic aid and an increase of $60 million in military aid for each year. U.S. aid to Israel has some unique aspects, such as loans with repayment waived, or a pledge to provide Israel with economic assistance equal to the amount Israel owes the United States for previous loans. Israel also receives special benefits that may not be available to other countries, such as the use of U.S. military assistance for research and development in the United States, the use of U.S. military assistance for military purchases in Israel, or receiving all its assistance in the first 30 days of the fiscal year rather than in 3 or 4 installments as other countries do. In addition to the foreign assistance, the United States has provided Israel with $625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow antimissile missile (an ongoing project), $1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled), $200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative), $130 million to develop the high energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing), and other military projects. In FY2000 the United States provided Israel an additional $1.2 billion to fund the Wye agreement, and in FY2002 the United States provided an additional $200 million in anti-terror assistance. For FY2005, the United States provided $360 million in economic, $2.22 billion in military, and $50 million in migration resettlement assistance. "

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/IB85066.pdf
 

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