Debate Now Will Disney Wind Up Going Out Of Business?

[EvilCat Breath]

Lookup any recent Disney movie and you will probably find gay characters and hardly any white characters even though the original role was supposed to be a white character.

You are correct. Lightyear, Little Mermaid. Snow White is going to be a fiery Latina who doesn't need a prince. Let's not forget Pinocchio and the bald, black, blue fairy. Lady and the Tramp was cast black, the cats were stripped of their personalities and Jacque became a girl. The newly released Strange World with its gay primary character laid a major stink bomb. What's next?

 

[ChristisKing]

"Probably" isn't good enough. Face it. You don't know what you're talking about. Next time you post, do it in the little kid section.

See post #61 and get some rest as it should be about your naptime now.

 

[okfine]

See post #61 and get some rest as it should be about your naptime now.

When I said to post in the "little kids section" you still don't have a clue... there isn't one.

You post an OP in a debate forum where you are unprepared and expect others to do it for you.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is what's currently closed at Disney World in Orlando:

• Walt Disney World Railroad - closed due to construction on the Tron Lightcycle Run roller coaster.
• Tomorrowland Light & Power Co. - the gift shop at Space Mountain is closed for renovations.
• Pete's Silly Sideshow - Closed due to the pandemic. Re-opening is pending.
• Splash Mountain - closed for renovations for a completye rebranding as Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, an attraction that will act as a sequel to The Princess and the Frog.
• The American Adventure - Closed for regularly scheduled maintenance.
• Canada Far and Wide in CircleVision 360 - This EPCOT attraction is currently closed due to the EPCOT Food & Wine Festival, which ended November 19. It is scheduled to re-open on November 28.

None of those closures are due to the an attraction being in a state of disrepair...



What do you consider "overcrowding"?

The Magic Kingdom's absolute safe maximum capacity is 100,000 people. In the rare instance they would actually have that many people inside the park, the gates would close. In 2022, the average number of guests per day numbered far less than that maximum, at about 67,000 per day.

As for the Fast Pass, no one is forcing anyone to buy the pass. Yes, they get you on the ride somewhat faster, but you actually don't save that much time...



And?

I can remember when admission to Disney World was $5.25, or about $36 in today's money. But, you had to purchase different tickets for different rides. Now, you could say that $36 is a lot less than the current $109 it costs to get in, but you also have to keep in mind a couple of things: First, you're not buying ticket books to go on rides. In 1974 it cost .90¢ for an "E" ticket; that was for the biggest rides in the park. That same ticket would cost about $5.46 today. There are currently 15 rides which were once considered "E-ticket" rides. If you were to ride every one of them, it would cost you an additional $81.90 today, in addition to the $36 it would cost if Disney World still used that system.

And, keep in mind, you haven't paid to go on any of the other rides yet.

The second thing to keep in mind is that, today, $109 gets you admission into the park and access to all attractions...



I have two very good friends who work at Disney World, and they say they've never seen attendance so robust. Prior to working there, they would make one or two trips a year from New York to go to Disney World, so they've seen it over the long-term. They're comfortable that their jobs are secure and that Disney will be around for a long, long time...

I have seen Disneyland Anaheim so crowded that it was difficult just to walk around. Some of the more popular rides has a 4 hour wait. Part of reason is the redesign of ride exits. They all exit into a themed gift shop. Most sit down restaurants were closed in favo

Obviously no. Disney is not even close to going out of business.
However, like Apple in the 2000s, they have allowed themselves to become "corporatized" where all decisions are made by a board of boring old people who are very risk averse.
Unfortunately Disney has had the cash to buy some of the best and most innovative entertainment companies that exist... and consequently ruined ever one of them. Pixar, to me, being the greatest example of a truly unique and talented company turned into a robotic rerun/remake machine droning out reboots of everything from past greats.

With the recent "reboot" of the company itself by firing a woke, failed asshole and bringing back the past CEO... maybe... they are on a good path. But doubtful, as the past CEO may not be the woke libtard - but he is the guy that headed up all that was bad before him.

The story is, Bob Chapek was "adjusting" the books to make it appear that some of the more unprofitable projects were making money.

 

[ChristisKing]

You post an OP in a debate forum where you are unprepared and expect others to do it for you.

You have a lot of nerve complaining about having things being done for you. Your fingers don't appear to be broken it you're typing on here so you're more than capable of using Google yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

I went there in... I think... 1990?
I was not at all impressed. My daughter and her husband went there in 2019 and said they doubt they will ever go back.... too crowded and everything is about buying swag.

I never thought much of Disney World, I preferred Universal Studios

The best description of the Disney experience came from my 5 year old son after half a day of Disney attractions
We were in CountryBear Jamboree and the lights went down and a spotlight centered on two bears.

My son yelled out…….Oh No! Not more talking Robots!

 

[Canon Shooter]

I have seen Disneyland Anaheim so crowded that it was difficult just to walk around.

Yeah, their parks can get crowded. I"ve been in Disney World when there 80,000 other people there. I've also bee there when there were only 25,000 people there...

Some of the more popular rides has a 4 hour wait.

Sorry, but I don't believe that for a second...

Part of reason is the redesign of ride exits. They all exit into a themed gift shop.

You just described the exit to pretty much every ride in every theme park on the planet...

Most sit down restaurants were closed in favor of food kiosks.

What restaurants have closed?

Disney Anaheim tickets are more expensive than Disney World. $109 with some at $143.00.

And, as I pointed out in my post, adjusted for inflation it's actually cheaper than it was in 1974...

The Disney parks and resorts aren't going anyplace. The company is still looking at a breakup, the same way it grew.

Not a chance.

Do you have anything you can cite to support your claims about the wait times and restaurants. Because I'd bet a shiny new nickel that you're wrong on both accounts...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

My son took his granddaughter there a couple of months ago. They got on ONE ride.. Guardians of the Galaxy. He was a real Disney fan. He worked there when he was in high school, maintained his annual passport until a few years ago. We were serious Disney fans at one time. He was married at Disneyland. So, I have no reason to doubt what he said.

Disney can cure these woes by going to a strict reservation system and stop the endless merchandising.

 

[okfine]

You have a lot of nerve complaining about having things being done for you. Your fingers don't appear to be broken it you're typing on here so you're more than capable of using Google yourself.

There you go. Why should I when you are the OP? It is actually a bait OP. Working against any debate with your childish postings tells me alot about you and your futility.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I never thought much of Disney World, I preferred Universal Studios

The best description of the Disney experience came from my 5 year old son after half a day of Disney attractions
We were in CountryBear Jamboree and the lights went down and a spotlight centered on two bears.

My son yelled out…….Oh No! Not more talking Robots!

The bears are gone.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No major company has ever lost divisions. Not even IBM.

 

[rightwinger]

The bears are gone.

Are the talking robots gone?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Are the talking robots gone?

If you mean the hall of presidents, last I heard it was still there.

 

[Canon Shooter]

No major company has ever lost divisions. Not even IBM.

Um, what?

Sorry, but that's just complete nonsense.

General Motors no longer has Pontiac or Oldsmobile. Chrysler no longer has Plymouth. Ford no longer has Mercury.

There's no shortage of major companies which have lost divisions...

 

[Montrovant]

My son took his granddaughter there a couple of months ago. They got on ONE ride.. Guardians of the Galaxy. He was a real Disney fan. He worked there when he was in high school, maintained his annual passport until a few years ago. We were serious Disney fans at one time. He was married at Disneyland. So, I have no reason to doubt what he said.

Disney can cure these woes by going to a strict reservation system and stop the endless merchandising.

But are they actually woes for Disney?
If they are still making gobs of money, they’re unlikely to change.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Um, what?

Sorry, but that's just complete nonsense.

General Motors no longer has Pontiac or Oldsmobile. Chrysler no longer has Plymouth. Ford no longer has Mercury.

There's no shortage of major companies which have lost divisions...

But IBM was huge. A gigantic company. It isn't anymore. That a company is large and quite diversified is no guarantee that it will remain so forever.

You are far more interested in being right than in meaningful discussion and you will stamp your feet and twist your curls if challenged.

 

[rightwinger]

Another favorite Disney memory…..It’s a Small World

I first went on that ride in 1964 when I was seven years old at the NY Worlds Fair…..I hated it

Fast forward 25 years and we are at Disney World. I try to avoid it but my wife starts whining….I want to go on Small World!

So we go on it, I still hate it and we are about 12 feet from the end of the ride and it stops. There was a small walkway next to the boat and we asked if we could just get off. Nobody is allowed off the ride until you are in the boarding area.

So we sat…and sat…the whole time they are playing that stupid….It’s a small, small world song……over and over

Finally, people started screaming…..Turn off that God Damn Song!

 

[okfine]

Another favorite Disney memory…..It’s a Small World

I first went on that ride in 1964 when I was seven years old at the NY Worlds Fair…..I hated it

Fast forward 25 years and we are at Disney World. I try to avoid it but my wife starts whining….I want to go on Small World!

So we go on it, I still hate it and we are about 12 feet from the end of the ride and it stops. There was a small walkway next to the boat and we asked if we could just get off. Nobody is allowed off the ride until you are in the boarding area.

So we sat…and sat…the whole time they are playing that stupid….It’s a small, small world song……over and over

Finally, people started screaming…..Turn off that God Damn Song!

The best ride is Mr. Toads Wild Ride.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Basically it's the new word for snowflake. Although I thought you asked this question before.

Wrong.

It’s a lie contrived by the right the consequence of conservatives’ racism, bigotry, and hate and the right’s unwarranted fear of diversity, inclusion, and dissent.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I honestly can't think of any rules, I just didn't think that this was clean debate friendly. I've been wondering this for awhile now because due to the fact that Disney has been losing its popularity ever since the war with Ron DeSantis on the don't say gay bill, it has to be losing LOTS of money.


The way I see it right now is that Disney has two options. Either to stop all this woke agenda crap and go back to being family friendly OR that it should shut its doors for good.


Now I would really hate to see the latter happen because I grew up on Disney (I've also been to Walt Disney World quote a few times in my youth) and I still love all of the old films. With a few exceptions (so far sequels to the older movies) I can't stand the new Disney. So what do you guys think? Is Disney truly on its deathbed now?

Edit: I just heard that Bob Iger is returning, maybe that'll wind up saving the Disney company.

Disney will be fine; it won’t go out of business because racist conservatives think that Disney’s movies and TV shows have ‘too many blacks.’