Why would anyone object to Virginia’s new gun laws?

[Harry Dresden]

Not in NYC without a whole lot of infringement.

3-6 months and $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in your own house or apartment.

The people of NYC have spoken
NY is safer for it

It’s safer to not have protection? Do you know your IQ?

You can still get protection.

and he aint talking about condoms jitss........

So I get the same protection has NYC mayor?

but i thought you could kick bruce lees ass.....

 

[martybegan]

because they violate the Constitution.

That should be enough even for you.

Lets agree...

You should not be allowed to buy gun until you show membership to a 'well regulated militia'....

I presume this Militia will be registered with the Government be it Local, State or Fed... Constitution doesn't say that.

Now if it is well regulated it would have a registry of all the guns in their militia.

So it is up to the Government to up hold the law and make sure the US Citizen is part of Well Regulated Militia and a Well Regulated Militia would register guns... And that is the constitution...

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

It’s not ‘infringement’ because a US District Court ruled that it isn’t.

NYSRPA | New York State Rifle and Pistol Association | NYS Firearms Advocacy | NYSRPA

Courts once said Plessy was just fine as well. the US District court is just as wrong.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

?

 

[SmokeALib]

The NRA interpretation is a fraud:

So well settled was the issue that, speaking on the PBS NewsHour in 1991, the retired Chief Justice Warren Burger described the National Rifle Association’s lobbying in support of an expansive interpretation of the Second Amendment in these terms: “One of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special-interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”

I place more importance on the opinion of the Founder who wrote the 2nd Amendment than an unelected judge 200 years later

Which is idiotic given the fact it was the Framers’ intent that the courts determine what the Constitution means – including the Second Amendment.

What the Constitution means? The Constitution means exactly what it says.

 

[Jitss617]

The people of NYC have spoken
NY is safer for it

It’s safer to not have protection? Do you know your IQ?

You can still get protection.

and he aint talking about condoms jitss........

So I get the same protection has NYC mayor?

but i thought you could kick bruce lees ass.....

So couldn’t my sister lol

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

Scalia said no such thing. What heller addressed was an outright ban.

Sorry, but making me wait 3-6 months alone in infringement. I don't own a gun yet, however making me wait that long because they feel like it is bullshit.

It's not infringement. Read Heller.
Scalia was clear. He said the 2nd protects the individual's right to own. It does not protect the right to own any gun or carry it any place.

 

[Jitss617]

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

?

Pick wisely

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

?

Pick wisely

Pick what?
I have no idea of WTF that means. Hence the question mark.

 

[Jitss617]

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

Scalia said no such thing. What heller addressed was an outright ban.

Sorry, but making me wait 3-6 months alone in infringement. I don't own a gun yet, however making me wait that long because they feel like it is bullshit.

It's not infringement. Read Heller.
Scalia was clear. He said the 2nd protects the individual's right to own. It does not protect the right to own any gun or carry it any place.

Read the second amendment

 

[Jitss617]

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

?

Pick wisely

Pick what?
I have no idea of WTF that means. Hence the question mark.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


wake up before it’s to late

 

[Jitss617]

You dont want this

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

?

Pick wisely

Pick what?
I have no idea of WTF that means. Hence the question mark.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


wake up before it’s to late

Uh.....sure, buddy.......

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

A limit on sales. Govt has no right to know about private sales. Only socialist anti gun people like these kind of laws. Not surprised that you call them sensible.

 

[Jitss617]

Imagine trying to arrest this guy lol

 

[Bush92]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

People have brains. Hence they oppose this and support freedom and liberty.

 

[Blues Man]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

There is nothing wrong with those new weapons laws.

What's wrong is the far right radical extremists. In their mind any weapon safety laws are taking their weapons from them. They're of course lying but if they couldn't lie they wouldn't have anything to say.

They want crazy people and felons to have weapons.

They also, at least the male far right radical extremists, have very small penises and are over compensating for it. Or they feel they have no control of their lives. Throw in a large. helping of paranoia.

They are pathetic people because their actions get a lot of innocent people murdered.

Nothing I have ever done no gun I have ever brought has caused anyone to be murdered

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And none of the Virginia laws will prevent you from owning a gun

Sure they will

If I want a specific kind of gun I can't own it.

If I want a handgun with a 15 round mag I can't own it

You want to be able to say "Oh sure you can own a gun as long as it a single shot .22 and nothing else"

 

[Bush92]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Absolutely there is nothing in those laws that any rational person should find objectionable. It is about the public safety. Given comments on this board and others by right-wingers these are people that should not be anywhere near dangerous objects much less guns.

2nd Amendment is what it is.

 

[Blues Man]

True
But do we need armed fans at football games? Do you want that drunk idiot sitting next to you being armed?

OK. Pass a law that drunk idiots can't bring a gun to football games.

Happy?

Better yet pass a law that says drunk idiots can't drive

Oh wait.....

 

[Bush92]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

You’re a communist.

 

[Blues Man]

None of these laws would have stopped the Virginia Beach shooting

A gun ban would, but we could never pass that

So we have to nibble at the edges and pass piecemeal legislation

Thanks for finally admitting that gun bans are the end goal

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I already said they are unachievable

All we have available is piecemeal legislation that will help but not end gun violence

What reduces gun violence is actually putting away the criminals who commit gun violence.

It's funny that in 1997 the good people of VA realized this and implemented Project Exile and saw gun crimes and murder rates drop.