Why would anyone object to Virginia’s new gun laws?

[Hutch Starskey]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

because they violate the Constitution.

That should be enough even for you.

Lets agree...

You should not be allowed to buy gun until you show membership to a 'well regulated militia'....

I presume this Militia will be registered with the Government be it Local, State or Fed... Constitution doesn't say that.

Now if it is well regulated it would have a registry of all the guns in their militia.

So it is up to the Government to up hold the law and make sure the US Citizen is part of Well Regulated Militia and a Well Regulated Militia would register guns... And that is the constitution...

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

Yes, they do..

They don't.
None of them prevent you from purchasing any gun.

 

[martybegan]

because they violate the Constitution.

That should be enough even for you.

Lets agree...

You should not be allowed to buy gun until you show membership to a 'well regulated militia'....

I presume this Militia will be registered with the Government be it Local, State or Fed... Constitution doesn't say that.

Now if it is well regulated it would have a registry of all the guns in their militia.

So it is up to the Government to up hold the law and make sure the US Citizen is part of Well Regulated Militia and a Well Regulated Militia would register guns... And that is the constitution...

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Somebody in the NYC government probably read some of your posts...

It's entirely reasonable to prevent mentally incompetent people from owning guns!

It's a general procedure for everyone.

My posts show no reason for denial of anything, being a dick online isn't a mental issue.

 

[Jitss617]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

I think you might live in the wrong country, you can’t infringe on my rights.. sorry buddy

States rights. Don’t move to New York City. You won’t like the gun laws there. And it’s all very constitutional

Your temper tantrum will be over soon the constitution is the law of the land or we will alter or abolish you .. go away before it’s to late

 

[Jitss617]

That's the right of the States. The right of the PEOPLE is to keep and bear arms.

commas mean things.

Our people do keep and bear arms

Not in NYC without a whole lot of infringement.

3-6 months and $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in your own house or apartment.

The people of NYC have spoken
NY is safer for it

It’s safer to not have protection? Do you know your IQ?

You can still get protection.

Huh

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Lets agree...

You should not be allowed to buy gun until you show membership to a 'well regulated militia'....

I presume this Militia will be registered with the Government be it Local, State or Fed... Constitution doesn't say that.

Now if it is well regulated it would have a registry of all the guns in their militia.

So it is up to the Government to up hold the law and make sure the US Citizen is part of Well Regulated Militia and a Well Regulated Militia would register guns... And that is the constitution...

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

 

[Jitss617]

Our people do keep and bear arms

Not in NYC without a whole lot of infringement.

3-6 months and $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in your own house or apartment.

The people of NYC have spoken
NY is safer for it

It’s safer to not have protection? Do you know your IQ?

You can still get protection.

and he aint talking about condoms jitss........

So I get the same protection has NYC mayor?

 

[Hum Dinger]

Lets agree...

You should not be allowed to buy gun until you show membership to a 'well regulated militia'....

I presume this Militia will be registered with the Government be it Local, State or Fed... Constitution doesn't say that.

Now if it is well regulated it would have a registry of all the guns in their militia.

So it is up to the Government to up hold the law and make sure the US Citizen is part of Well Regulated Militia and a Well Regulated Militia would register guns... And that is the constitution...

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Somebody in the NYC government probably read some of your posts...

It's entirely reasonable to prevent mentally incompetent people from owning guns!

It's a general procedure for everyone.

My posts show no reason for denial of anything, being a dick online isn't a mental issue.

Can't take a joke, can you?

 

[jillian]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Because they’re angry insane loons who want to pretend we still live in the Wild West.

guns make up for their lack of genitalia

 

[martybegan]

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

because they violate the Constitution.

That should be enough even for you.

Do they? That's hardly a given...

"The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."​

Most gun laws violate the Constitution, even if the courts let them stand.

This is as ignorant as it is ridiculous.

The courts alone determine what is or is not Constitutional – including the Second Amendment.

The courts are not infallible, and they often rule based on far more than the Constitution, call it a human failing.

Sour grapes fallacy.

“The courts sometimes get it wrong” is a failed and ignorant ‘argument’ – particularly given the fact that the Supreme Court has not ruled on the constitutionality of any of the proposed measures; the courts must first make a ruling before declaring the ruling to be ‘wrong.’

 

[Shawnee_b]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

Red flag is sensible? No due process?

 

[martybegan]

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Somebody in the NYC government probably read some of your posts...

It's entirely reasonable to prevent mentally incompetent people from owning guns!

It's a general procedure for everyone.

My posts show no reason for denial of anything, being a dick online isn't a mental issue.

Can't take a joke, can you?

That wasn't a joke. It could be seen as a veiled threat.

 

[Hum Dinger]

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Somebody in the NYC government probably read some of your posts...

It's entirely reasonable to prevent mentally incompetent people from owning guns!

It's a general procedure for everyone.

My posts show no reason for denial of anything, being a dick online isn't a mental issue.

Can't take a joke, can you?

That wasn't a joke. It could be seen as a veiled threat.

Nope, you can't take a joke.....paranoid besides....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The NRA interpretation is a fraud:

So well settled was the issue that, speaking on the PBS NewsHour in 1991, the retired Chief Justice Warren Burger described the National Rifle Association’s lobbying in support of an expansive interpretation of the Second Amendment in these terms: “One of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special-interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”

I place more importance on the opinion of the Founder who wrote the 2nd Amendment than an unelected judge 200 years later

Which is idiotic given the fact it was the Framers’ intent that the courts determine what the Constitution means – including the Second Amendment.

 

[Jitss617]

The NRA interpretation is a fraud:

So well settled was the issue that, speaking on the PBS NewsHour in 1991, the retired Chief Justice Warren Burger described the National Rifle Association’s lobbying in support of an expansive interpretation of the Second Amendment in these terms: “One of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special-interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”

I place more importance on the opinion of the Founder who wrote the 2nd Amendment than an unelected judge 200 years later

Which is idiotic given the fact it was the Framers’ intent that the courts determine what the Constitution means – including the Second Amendment.

I think we know what it means it’s clear

 

[sealybobo]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

I think you might live in the wrong country, you can’t infringe on my rights.. sorry buddy

States rights. Don’t move to New York City. You won’t like the gun laws there. And it’s all very constitutional

what if a state wanted to ban blacks from voting?

That would be unconstitutional

 

[Hutch Starskey]

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sensible legislation

Virginia gun laws: What sparked Richmond gun rally tied to neo-Nazis?

Three bills passed the state Senate on Thursday: A limit to one handgun purchase per month, a requirement for universal background checks on gun sales and a rule allowing localities to ban guns in some public areas.

because they violate the Constitution.

That should be enough even for you.

Lets agree...

You should not be allowed to buy gun until you show membership to a 'well regulated militia'....

I presume this Militia will be registered with the Government be it Local, State or Fed... Constitution doesn't say that.

Now if it is well regulated it would have a registry of all the guns in their militia.

So it is up to the Government to up hold the law and make sure the US Citizen is part of Well Regulated Militia and a Well Regulated Militia would register guns... And that is the constitution...

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

“The right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms...”

None of those laws infringe on that right in any way.

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

It’s not ‘infringement’ because a US District Court ruled that it isn’t.

NYSRPA | New York State Rifle and Pistol Association | NYS Firearms Advocacy | NYSRPA

 

[Jitss617]

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

2 options would you like to be altered or abolished?

 

[martybegan]

NYC makes me wait 3-6 months and pay $500 in fees just to keep a handgun in my apartment. how is that not infringement?

Who's talking about NYC?

It's what gun control nuts want in the end, it's the endgame for all this incremental control.

Is what I stated infringement or not?

No. You still own the gun. No?

Infringement isn't banning.

Is this infringement or not? Would voting requiring a $50 fee and a wait period for checks be infringement?

No. It's regulation. You still have the gun.
Infringement in this context means denying the right as Scalia stated in Heller.

Voting requires no such regulation.

Scalia said no such thing. What heller addressed was an outright ban.

Sorry, but making me wait 3-6 months alone in infringement. I don't own a gun yet, however making me wait that long because they feel like it is bullshit.