Even if we completely set aside the question of participation....I disagree that knowing what was going on and not caring and still hanging out with criminals and predatory people is vastly different. Maybe that's not what you meant....but just sayin. There's an old proverb that you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep. The usual reply to that (I've had this conversation many times before on other threads) is that that was in the past, and Trump has changed. I don't agree with those folks who believe that Trump has significantly changed. I believe there's only ONE thing that truly changes a person in a radical way, and that one thing has not happened to Trump, as far as I've seen. But we can agree to disagree, as I really don't feel like arguing any further about this at the moment.