Why the growing use of JUNK MAIL VOTING is so full of fraud!

[JoeMoma]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

 

[JoeMoma]

And yet still no proof that any of this actually happened let alone happened in such a large manner that the outcome was effected.

Even if ballots were sent out erroneously it is a rather massive assumption that illegally returned ballots broke one way or the other.

Isn't it also a massive assumption that illegally returned ballots didn't break one way or another? Considering the billions of dollars spent to affect the outcome of elections, don't you think some will cheat if they can find a way to do so with little risk of being detected?

 

[JoeMoma]

“The handwritten signature is, frankly, a b******* form of authentication,” Siciliano says. “It really has no security value whatsoever, and that applies to all handwritten signatures. Do you think the clerk behind the counter at Wal-Mart is skilled at handwriting analysis? You think, of the hundreds of signatures she looks at every day, she’ll notice the one that’s an imitation? It’s a completely false sense of security.”

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So with the growing absentee voting trend and politicians WHO know the above to be true, are we really going to have "fair and balanced" elections in the future with more and more absentee balloting?

Look at the attached and tell me the same person signed both documents.
Then consider Of the total Georgia votes of 4,935,487 almost 404,000 absentee ballots didn't have a record of being signed by the voter.

Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties | The Georgia Star News

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The election office mailed JUNK MAIL BALLOTS to the voting rolls they had.
10% of Americans move per year, in 4 years that could be nearly 40% invalid addresses.
2) The unsolicited (as in absentee ballot) ballot goes to an address that MAY not have the original voter living there any longer.
3) Given the stupidity of most Democrat voters especially knowing that signing a ballot fraudulently could cause imprisonment, these idiots sign and drop in the mail.
4) Election workers than look supposedly at the signature on file and the signed ballot... these workers are NOT experts, much less qualified to verify a signature and in most cases have accepted fraudulent, forged signatures.
5) The ballot is considered valid and counted.
View attachment 478419

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

You wrote not ..."ACTUAL fraud of any significance"
In Ga as this substantiation link " Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties - The Georgia Star News/
Biden votes in Ga: 2,483,633 Trump :2,461,854 Difference 11,779 more for Biden

2020 Georgia election results by county, GA electoral college votes

Georgia's latest vote totals, top races in the 2020 presidential election.

abc7ny.com

Of the more than 1.3 million absentee ballots returned to county elections offices for the November election, more than 2,000 of them were rejected because of an invalid or missing signature.
That’s the same signature rejection percentage as the 2018 mid-term election in which more than a million fewer absentee ballots were submitted.

Fact Check: Georgia Rejected More Than 2,000 Absentee Ballots Because Of Signature Issues - WABE

Of the more than 1.3 million absentee ballots returned to county elections offices for the November election, more than 2,000 of them were rejected because of an invalid or missing signature. That’s the same signature rejection percentage as the 2018 mid-term election in which more than a...

www.wabe.org

Just 11,779 votes difference but nearly double the number of absentee ballots in 2020. It is just suspect.

Why is chain of custody important? That should be a rhetorical question, yet 404,000 absentee ballots were counted without chain of custody records.

 

[Mustang]

“The handwritten signature is, frankly, a b******* form of authentication,” Siciliano says. “It really has no security value whatsoever, and that applies to all handwritten signatures. Do you think the clerk behind the counter at Wal-Mart is skilled at handwriting analysis? You think, of the hundreds of signatures she looks at every day, she’ll notice the one that’s an imitation? It’s a completely false sense of security.”

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So with the growing absentee voting trend and politicians WHO know the above to be true, are we really going to have "fair and balanced" elections in the future with more and more absentee balloting?

Look at the attached and tell me the same person signed both documents.
Then consider Of the total Georgia votes of 4,935,487 almost 404,000 absentee ballots didn't have a record of being signed by the voter.

Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties | The Georgia Star News

georgiastarnews.com

The election office mailed JUNK MAIL BALLOTS to the voting rolls they had.
10% of Americans move per year, in 4 years that could be nearly 40% invalid addresses.
2) The unsolicited (as in absentee ballot) ballot goes to an address that MAY not have the original voter living there any longer.
3) Given the stupidity of most Democrat voters especially knowing that signing a ballot fraudulently could cause imprisonment, these idiots sign and drop in the mail.
4) Election workers than look supposedly at the signature on file and the signed ballot... these workers are NOT experts, much less qualified to verify a signature and in most cases have accepted fraudulent, forged signatures.
5) The ballot is considered valid and counted.
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This is hilarious. Conservatives who, in large numbers, embrace countless conspiracy theories, including the QAnon nut jobs, are accusing Democrats who, in general, don't fall for all that nonsense, of being stupid?

This is almost as crazy as all those White GOP voters who refuse to get vaccinated due to a distrust of gov't or big pharma.

Hey, I got vaccinated when I was in school. I also got vaccinated when I went into the Army. I know that vaccinations save lives, and I got the first dose of Covid-19 vaccination as soon as I could.

What all this proves is this: If there is any group of people who are too stupid to vote, it's conservatives in general

 

[alang1216]

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

The bar owner's claim is reasonable if there are no incidents of under-age people caught drinking.

What you're essentially asking is that someone prove a negative. Prove something didn't happen with any evidence saying it did. Sorry, that is not a reasonable request since all the checks that are already in the system failed to show any substantial fraud.

 

[alang1216]

“The handwritten signature is, frankly, a b******* form of authentication,” Siciliano says. “It really has no security value whatsoever, and that applies to all handwritten signatures. Do you think the clerk behind the counter at Wal-Mart is skilled at handwriting analysis? You think, of the hundreds of signatures she looks at every day, she’ll notice the one that’s an imitation? It’s a completely false sense of security.”

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So with the growing absentee voting trend and politicians WHO know the above to be true, are we really going to have "fair and balanced" elections in the future with more and more absentee balloting?

Look at the attached and tell me the same person signed both documents.
Then consider Of the total Georgia votes of 4,935,487 almost 404,000 absentee ballots didn't have a record of being signed by the voter.

Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties | The Georgia Star News

georgiastarnews.com

The election office mailed JUNK MAIL BALLOTS to the voting rolls they had.
10% of Americans move per year, in 4 years that could be nearly 40% invalid addresses.
2) The unsolicited (as in absentee ballot) ballot goes to an address that MAY not have the original voter living there any longer.
3) Given the stupidity of most Democrat voters especially knowing that signing a ballot fraudulently could cause imprisonment, these idiots sign and drop in the mail.
4) Election workers than look supposedly at the signature on file and the signed ballot... these workers are NOT experts, much less qualified to verify a signature and in most cases have accepted fraudulent, forged signatures.
5) The ballot is considered valid and counted.
View attachment 478419

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

You wrote not ..."ACTUAL fraud of any significance"
In Ga as this substantiation link " Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties - The Georgia Star News/
Biden votes in Ga: 2,483,633 Trump :2,461,854 Difference 11,779 more for Biden

2020 Georgia election results by county, GA electoral college votes

Georgia's latest vote totals, top races in the 2020 presidential election.

abc7ny.com

Of the more than 1.3 million absentee ballots returned to county elections offices for the November election, more than 2,000 of them were rejected because of an invalid or missing signature.
That’s the same signature rejection percentage as the 2018 mid-term election in which more than a million fewer absentee ballots were submitted.

Fact Check: Georgia Rejected More Than 2,000 Absentee Ballots Because Of Signature Issues - WABE

Of the more than 1.3 million absentee ballots returned to county elections offices for the November election, more than 2,000 of them were rejected because of an invalid or missing signature. That’s the same signature rejection percentage as the 2018 mid-term election in which more than a...

www.wabe.org

Just 11,779 votes difference but nearly double the number of absentee ballots in 2020. It is just suspect.

Again, there is that POTENTIAL that some percent of the 404,000 ballots were fraudulent, but there is no evidence of ACTUAL fraud. It is possible there was no fraud at all, there was fraud on the part of the Dems, or there was fraud on the part of the GOP.

 

[alang1216]

“The handwritten signature is, frankly, a b******* form of authentication,” Siciliano says. “It really has no security value whatsoever, and that applies to all handwritten signatures. Do you think the clerk behind the counter at Wal-Mart is skilled at handwriting analysis? You think, of the hundreds of signatures she looks at every day, she’ll notice the one that’s an imitation? It’s a completely false sense of security.”

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So with the growing absentee voting trend and politicians WHO know the above to be true, are we really going to have "fair and balanced" elections in the future with more and more absentee balloting?

Look at the attached and tell me the same person signed both documents.
Then consider Of the total Georgia votes of 4,935,487 almost 404,000 absentee ballots didn't have a record of being signed by the voter.

Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties | The Georgia Star News

georgiastarnews.com

The election office mailed JUNK MAIL BALLOTS to the voting rolls they had.
10% of Americans move per year, in 4 years that could be nearly 40% invalid addresses.
2) The unsolicited (as in absentee ballot) ballot goes to an address that MAY not have the original voter living there any longer.
3) Given the stupidity of most Democrat voters especially knowing that signing a ballot fraudulently could cause imprisonment, these idiots sign and drop in the mail.
4) Election workers than look supposedly at the signature on file and the signed ballot... these workers are NOT experts, much less qualified to verify a signature and in most cases have accepted fraudulent, forged signatures.
5) The ballot is considered valid and counted.
View attachment 478419

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

The last election was a fraud and President Biden is illegitimate.

Easy to say but apparently impossible to prove. You got proof?

 

[JoeMoma]

The bar owner's claim is reasonable if there are no incidents of under-age people caught drinking.

Of course there will be no underage people caught drinking if no on looks for underage people drinking. Just like no one will find voter fraud if no one looks for it or it the system is set up as not to see it. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[alang1216]

The bar owner's claim is reasonable if there are no incidents of under-age people caught drinking.

Of course there will be no underage people caught drinking if no on looks for underage people drinking. Just like no one will find voter fraud if no one looks for it or it the system is set up as not to see it. Ignorance is bliss.

There are people looking for under-age drinkers, they are called cops. It would likely take one under-age drinker getting into a car accident to uncover that the bar was the source.

If you think there are not checks on voting to ensure its integrity you are misinformed. Plenty are in place and plenty have been rechecked this past election and by Republicans who had a vested interest in helping their fellow Republicans.

You're living in a fantasy that you are in the majority so there must be fraud if your side lost. Sorry, the election went pretty much as the polls predicted.

 

[Mustang]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

Not true. Many households received ballots for past residents and dead people.

One should have to request a ballot. Universal mail in balloting is garbage.

 

[alang1216]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

Not true. Many households received ballots for past residents and dead people.

One should have to request a ballot. Universal mail in balloting is garbage.

How many of those past residents or dead people actually cast a vote? What you fail to understand is that not many individuals will risk a felony to cast a single vote.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

Not true. Many households received ballots for past residents and dead people.

One should have to request a ballot. Universal mail in balloting is garbage.

How many of those past residents or dead people actually cast a vote? What you fail to understand is that not many individuals will risk a felony to cast a single vote.

Why mail them at all?

One should have to request a mail in ballot. Universal is a bullshit waste of money.

 

[alang1216]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

Not true. Many households received ballots for past residents and dead people.

One should have to request a ballot. Universal mail in balloting is garbage.

How many of those past residents or dead people actually cast a vote? What you fail to understand is that not many individuals will risk a felony to cast a single vote.

Why mail them at all?

One should have to request a mail in ballot. Universal is a bullshit waste of money.

Having to request a mail-in ballot is a bullshit waste of my time. It is also probably cheaper than creating a system to respond to texts, emails, website requests, and phone calls.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

Not true. Many households received ballots for past residents and dead people.

One should have to request a ballot. Universal mail in balloting is garbage.

How many of those past residents or dead people actually cast a vote? What you fail to understand is that not many individuals will risk a felony to cast a single vote.

Why mail them at all?

One should have to request a mail in ballot. Universal is a bullshit waste of money.

Having to request a mail-in ballot is a bullshit waste of my time. It is also probably cheaper than creating a system to respond to texts, emails, website requests, and phone calls.

So challenging. One has to request an absentee ballot.

All of a sudden you cant figure out how to request a ballot.

Maybe spend less time on this site.

 

[Harry Dresden]

“The handwritten signature is, frankly, a b******* form of authentication,” Siciliano says. “It really has no security value whatsoever, and that applies to all handwritten signatures. Do you think the clerk behind the counter at Wal-Mart is skilled at handwriting analysis? You think, of the hundreds of signatures she looks at every day, she’ll notice the one that’s an imitation? It’s a completely false sense of security.”

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So with the growing absentee voting trend and politicians WHO know the above to be true, are we really going to have "fair and balanced" elections in the future with more and more absentee balloting?

Look at the attached and tell me the same person signed both documents.
Then consider Of the total Georgia votes of 4,935,487 almost 404,000 absentee ballots didn't have a record of being signed by the voter.

Four Months After 2020 Presidential Election in Georgia No Chain of Custody Documents Produced for 404,000 Absentee Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes; Fulton County One of 35 Scofflaw Counties | The Georgia Star News

georgiastarnews.com

The election office mailed JUNK MAIL BALLOTS to the voting rolls they had.
10% of Americans move per year, in 4 years that could be nearly 40% invalid addresses.
2) The unsolicited (as in absentee ballot) ballot goes to an address that MAY not have the original voter living there any longer.
3) Given the stupidity of most Democrat voters especially knowing that signing a ballot fraudulently could cause imprisonment, these idiots sign and drop in the mail.
4) Election workers than look supposedly at the signature on file and the signed ballot... these workers are NOT experts, much less qualified to verify a signature and in most cases have accepted fraudulent, forged signatures.
5) The ballot is considered valid and counted.
View attachment 478419

This is hilarious. Conservatives who, in large numbers, embrace countless conspiracy theories, including the QAnon nut jobs, are accusing Democrats who, in general, don't fall for all that nonsense, of being stupid?

This is almost as crazy as all those White GOP voters who refuse to get vaccinated due to a distrust of gov't or big pharma.

Hey, I got vaccinated when I was in school. I also got vaccinated when I went into the Army. I know that vaccinations save lives, and I got the first dose of Covid-19 vaccination as soon as I could.

What all this proves is this: If there is any group of people who are too stupid to vote, it's conservatives in general

and liberals are just so wonderful......i lived in California i know better....your side is just as fucked as their side.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.
that happens only if the register of voters maintains their lists.......if not there are lots of bad addresses.....

 

[Mustang]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

Not true. Many households received ballots for past residents and dead people.

One should have to request a ballot. Universal mail in balloting is garbage.

You're wrong. I live in a state where every registered voter gets a mail in ballot. We've been doing it for almost 10 years, and we have no problems with it.

What do most people do when they move? A. They contact the PO to have their mail forwarded and B. They contact banks and CC companies to notify them of the change of address. Registered voters are probably even more responsible as a general rule. So, you are wrong that "many" households receive ballots for former residents or dead people. But what does it matter if a few do when they're coded and a verifiable signature is required. Besides, it's a crime with virtually no upside whatsoever for anyone who decides to break the law with major penalties for people who break the law.

Any fraud is at such a small level that the chances of swinging an election one way or the other is almost nil, especially since the fraud would almost certainly be in both directions.

The real kind of fraud one would have to worry about would originate from within the gov't. So, for example, in a state like GA where most of the election officials are Republicans, it's more likely that the fraud would favor Trump, not Biden. But mail in ballots that employ scanners to count the votes gives more power to the voter and less power to election officials who are monitored in person and by camera on-line. It's like having cameras on bank tellers.

 

[Mustang]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.
that happens only if the register of voters maintains their lists.......if not there are lots of bad addresses.....

Registered voters are more responsible than the average unregistered clod.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Of course all the signatures were not verified on the tens of millions of mail in ballots.

and they shouldn't be, but the republicans swear on the signatures.

You're saying there is POTENTIAL fraud, not that there has been ACTUAL fraud of any significance. Very different animals. Certainly the former is true but so is the later. Making mail-in ballots more restrictive is a solution in search of a problem.

ACTUAL fraud of any significance will not be detected unless there are checks in the system that will detect it. The bar owner that doesn't card his customers can easily make the claim that his bar doesn't have a problem with under age drinking.

I am thinking to recount TX and FL next time and every time from now on.

If there is significant fraud due to mailed in ballets, a recount will not catch it.

You post as if you think it's not possible to place safeguards on mail in ballots. Ballots are not like grocery store coupons that anyone can use. They're coded and can be verified by signatures and scanners and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.

and are only mailed out to verified addresses of registered voters.
that happens only if the register of voters maintains their lists.......if not there are lots of bad addresses.....

Registered voters are more responsible than the average unregistered clod.

read what i said again.....