Why Tariffs Are Good: The Case for Tariffs
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Do you really believe he's doing all this to help uneducated blue collar workers? Sucker.
BTW, why is Trump unhappy with the trade deal he negotiated with Canada and Mexico 5 years ago? I thought he was a shrewed negotiator. Sounds like he's not happy with USMCA
The USMCA took effect on July 1, 2020, replacing NAFTA.
No. Besides, what does that matter? Our current deal with Canada and Mexico is USMCA. Trump negotiated that.
Talking about NAFTA is like talking about what we had before NAFTA. Doesn't matter. What are we doing now that's not working? USMCA.
The USMCA took effect on July 1, 2020, replacing NAFTA.
because it matters Sealy>>>>
The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was a trade pact between the United States, Canada, and Mexico that came into effect on January 1, 1994. It aimed to eliminate trade barriers and create a large free-trade zone, leading to increased trade and investment between the three countries. NAFTA was replaced by the United States-
Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) on July 1, 2020.
PROS CONS
| Lowered prices for many goods | Loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs |
| Increased exports and regional production | Concerns about environmental and health standards |
| Improved GDP and diplomatic relations | Displacement of family farmers |
Perot's 'giant sucking sound' was all about tariffs
~S~
That's a flat out lie on Canada flooding us with illegal drugs. You're such a good little, and Mindless Trumper regurgitating his lies!!!
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That's a flat out lie on Canada flooding us with illegal drugs. You're such a good little, and Mindless Trumper regurgitating his lies!!!
It's really impossible for folks like you and I to know what's coming down from Canada. By the same token, it's quite probable that drugs have been crossing the northern border into Canada.
BluesLegend
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That's a flat out lie on Canada flooding us with illegal drugs. You're such a good little, and Mindless Trumper regurgitating his lies!!!
Yea but why is Trump re negotiating his 2020 trade deal? And why are we calling this NAFTA when Trump's bad trade deal is called something else.
Funny thing is, I don't completely hate bringing jobs back home. You guys suddenly sound like union members in the 2000's. Why? Because it's those former union workers who got fucked. Trump's conning them. It's brilliant.
Why, because Trump is all 'America first' Sealy
Further, the damage nafta resulted in is what he's fixing here
re> the 'rust belt'
Agreed the unions 'eff'd themselves Sealy
They have long since left representation of the worker ant , for self serving agenda's
So let's focus on Joe bag o' donuts , and not them here
You're speaking to one of them......
~S~
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Especially the Red Chinese.
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If tariffs were bad, they would have died out long ago.
Logical question: Why would any country ever enforce tariffs if they were bad?
Logical question: Why would any country ever enforce tariffs if they were bad?
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Actually, yes, he is. The tariffs are strategically targeted: the tariff rate for each country is based on our trade deficit with that country and on the tariff that that country is imposing on us. There is a base tariff rate of 10%, and each rate beyond that depends on those two factors (trade deficit and tariff rate imposed on us).
I should add that it was not all that long ago that Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Howard Dean, Bob Kerry, and many other Democrats were calling for overt protectionism through higher tariffs.
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Equitable and reciprocal tariffs are good security for US as well. Increasing reliance on goods, raw materials, and energy from foreign nations puts the US Supply Chain at more risk.
Why, because Trump is all 'America first' Sealy
Further, the damage nafta resulted in is what he's fixing here
re> the 'rust belt'
Agreed the unions 'eff'd themselves Sealy
They have long since left representation of the worker ant , for self serving agenda's
So let's focus on Joe bag o' donuts , and not them here
You're speaking to one of them......
~S~
Trump is fixing his own trade agreement that replaced NAFTA in 2020. Why we even talking about NAFTA. Trump's re negotiating his own deal.
Those same union workers who fucked themselves, are the deplorables Hillary was talking about. You want to bring your companies back home and hire them? LOL. Good luck.
Tariffs protect industries and businesses, especially vital industries, from unfair foreign competition. Tariffs prevent huge sums of income from leaving the U.S. America became the industrial giant of the world behind the protective walls of sky-high tariffs for decades.
No, tariffs did not cause or contribute to the Great Depression--that's an old Democrat myth that was floated by FDR and his crowd to attack Republican trade policy, and it's a myth that some Libertarians misguidedly, mistakenly repeat.
Numerous nations around the world have developed their economies by using high tariffs. Think about this: If tariffs are so bad for consumers and the economy, why do so many other nations impose tariffs, including Canada, Mexico, China, Brazil, Argentina, the European Union, Japan, India, South Korea, and Taiwan?
Some reading for further research:
Why Tariffs Are Good
The claim that tariffs are inherently misguided and inevitably harmful does not stand up to scrutiny, especially when it comes to U.S. trade with Chinawww.tabletmag.com
Trump's Tariffs Are About Securing America's Future
Americans should not be gaslit into having to choose between sovereignty and safety or low prices.thefederalist.com
In a Victory for Autoworkers, Auto Tariffs Mark the Beginning of the End of NAFTA and the “Free Trade” Disaster - UAW | United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America
Days after Volkswagen, the #2 automaker in the world, announced making $20.6 billion in profit in 2024, a new UAW survey of VW workers in Chattanooga reveals the devastating financial toll of VW’s substandard U.S. health care offerings.uaw.org
Tariffs Are The Only Way To Restore Long-Term Economic Health
To make America make things again, tariffs are the only option.
It is shocking how many people downplay the Great Recession of the late 2000s and early 2010s
All those people who lost their good paying union jobs in the 2000's will never make the money they once made. In the 2000's you said they were lazy pieces of shit. In the 2010's Hillary called them deplorables. Trump says he loves the poorly educated. So you're saying you want to bring good paying jobs back to America for these people?
I am truly happy Trump wants to bring jobs home but don't we already have really low unemployment? Aren't a lot of illegals self deporting? We know they are because in Florida they are rolling child labor laws back to replace those workers. Rather than wages going up to attract workers, or steal them away from Walmart, they resort to that? And when things cool down they'll start hiring illegals again. Or the government will let more legally immigrate here because we need the workers. So eventually, to get more money, these people are going to have to unionize again. Which you will fight. Right?
The phrase "deaths of despair" refers to a concerning trend of rising mortality rates among less-educated white Americans, particularly from suicide, drug overdose, and alcohol-related liver disease, stemming from economic hardship and lack of opportunity.
Remember, these are the people you will be interviewing and they are used to making good wages. Now they're all strung out and you're going to pay them dick what?
JoeB131
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Are you fucking kidding me? He put tariffs on islands that people don't live on.
Trump imposes tariffs on uninhabited Heard and McDonald Islands near Antarctica
Australian prime minister surprised after remote external territories – including islands home to penguins – targeted by US president
www.theguardian.com
I also think Commie Bernie is an idiot. I used to think Tariffs were the answer, but I don't think they really are, once you take a minute or two to understand how tariffs work.
Since I am talking to a Mormon, I'll try to make it simple for you.
I am a merchant who sells widgets. I buy my widget from China for $100.00. I sell that widget in my store for $125.00. I could probably buy an American widget for $125.00, but then I lose all my profits.
Now, the Orange Shitgibbon has just imposed a $36% Tariff on China, so now my widget costs $136.00.
I could by my widget from the US Mfg. for $125, but it's not as nice. Not to mention there's nothing to keep him from raising his price to $130.00. He's got no incentive to improve his processes if his
So what are my options.
1) Raise my prices and go through all the expense of resourcing the widget.
2) Raise my price and keep selling the Chinese widget.
3) I Just stop selling that widget.
Either way, I'm making less profit. Where am I going to make up that profit? Well, I can fire that minimum wage clerk and then add her salary to my profit margin.
Tariffs protect industries and businesses, especially vital industries, from unfair foreign competition. Tariffs prevent huge sums of income from leaving the U.S. America became the industrial giant of the world behind the protective walls of sky-high tariffs for decades.
No, tariffs did not cause or contribute to the Great Depression--that's an old Democrat myth that was floated by FDR and his crowd to attack Republican trade policy, and it's a myth that some Libertarians misguidedly, mistakenly repeat.
Numerous nations around the world have developed their economies by using high tariffs. Think about this: If tariffs are so bad for consumers and the economy, why do so many other nations impose tariffs, including Canada, Mexico, China, Brazil, Argentina, the European Union, Japan, India, South Korea, and Taiwan?
Some reading for further research:
Why Tariffs Are Good
The claim that tariffs are inherently misguided and inevitably harmful does not stand up to scrutiny, especially when it comes to U.S. trade with China
Trump's Tariffs Are About Securing America's Future
Americans should not be gaslit into having to choose between sovereignty and safety or low prices.
In a Victory for Autoworkers, Auto Tariffs Mark the Beginning of the End of NAFTA and the “Free Trade” Disaster - UAW | United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America
Days after Volkswagen, the #2 automaker in the world, announced making $20.6 billion in profit in 2024, a new UAW survey of VW workers in Chattanooga reveals the devastating financial toll of VW’s substandard U.S. health care offerings.
Tariffs Are The Only Way To Restore Long-Term Economic Health
To make America make things again, tariffs are the only option.
Tariffs protect industries and businesses, especially vital industries, from unfair foreign competition. Tariffs prevent huge sums of income from leaving the U.S. America became the industrial giant of the world behind the protective walls of sky-high tariffs for decades.
No, tariffs did not cause or contribute to the Great Depression--that's an old Democrat myth that was floated by FDR and his crowd to attack Republican trade policy, and it's a myth that some Libertarians misguidedly, mistakenly repeat.
Numerous nations around the world have developed their economies by using high tariffs. Think about this: If tariffs are so bad for consumers and the economy, why do so many other nations impose tariffs, including Canada, Mexico, China, Brazil, Argentina, the European Union, Japan, India, South Korea, and Taiwan?
Some reading for further research:
Why Tariffs Are Good
The claim that tariffs are inherently misguided and inevitably harmful does not stand up to scrutiny, especially when it comes to U.S. trade with China
Trump's Tariffs Are About Securing America's Future
Americans should not be gaslit into having to choose between sovereignty and safety or low prices.
In a Victory for Autoworkers, Auto Tariffs Mark the Beginning of the End of NAFTA and the “Free Trade” Disaster - UAW | United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America
Days after Volkswagen, the #2 automaker in the world, announced making $20.6 billion in profit in 2024, a new UAW survey of VW workers in Chattanooga reveals the devastating financial toll of VW’s substandard U.S. health care offerings.
Tariffs Are The Only Way To Restore Long-Term Economic Health
To make America make things again, tariffs are the only option.
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