Why Tariffs Are Good: The Case for Tariffs

[JoeB131]

/---/ There are several that are engineered in teh US but assemblyed overseas.
One is US made, and it doesn't cost $3,500 like your hysterical wild eyed claim.

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Looks like a piece of shit.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Looks like a piece of shit.

/—-/ Your fake claim of $3,500 for America made smart phone has been proven 100% TDS Bullshyt.
So, naturally you slam the American made phone with out even knowing anything about it.
Typical.

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/ Your fake claim of $3,500 for America made smart phone has been proven 100% TDS Bullshyt.
So, naturally you slam the American made phone with out even knowing anything about it.
Typical.

It just looks cheap and not particularly good, and that's by the picture they provided.

 

[Cellblock2429]

It just looks cheap and not particularly good, and that's by the picture they provided.

/-----/ So a better one would cost what, $1,000?
You simply can't admit you were wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

/-----/ So a better one would cost what, $1,000?
You simply can't admit you were wrong.

I don't have to, they've already run the numbers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/heres-how-much-a-made-in-the-usa-iphone-would-cost.html#:~:text=Bank%20of%20America%20Securities%20analyst,supply%20chain%20to%20the%20U.S.

Bank of America Securities analyst Wamsi Mohan said in a note Thursday that the iPhone 16 Pro, which is currently priced at $1,199, could increase 25% based on labor costs alone. That would make it a roughly $1,500 device.

Wedbush’s Dan Ives pegged a U.S. iPhone’s price at $3,500 shortly after Trump’s April 2 tariff announcement, estimating that Apple would need to spend $30 billion over three years to move 10% of its supply chain to the U.S.

At the moment, Apple makes more than 80% of its products in China. Those products are now subject to a 145% tax when they’re imported into the U.S. since Trump’s tariffs went into effect this week.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I don't have to, they've already run the numbers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/heres-how-much-a-made-in-the-usa-iphone-would-cost.html#:~:text=Bank%20of%20America%20Securities%20analyst,supply%20chain%20to%20the%20U.S.

Bank of America Securities analyst Wamsi Mohan said in a note Thursday that the iPhone 16 Pro, which is currently priced at $1,199, could increase 25% based on labor costs alone. That would make it a roughly $1,500 device.

Wedbush’s Dan Ives pegged a U.S. iPhone’s price at $3,500 shortly after Trump’s April 2 tariff announcement, estimating that Apple would need to spend $30 billion over three years to move 10% of its supply chain to the U.S.

At the moment, Apple makes more than 80% of its products in China. Those products are now subject to a 145% tax when they’re imported into the U.S. since Trump’s tariffs went into effect this week.

/—-/ $1,500 ain’t $3,500. And I’m talking about a mid range smart one not top of the line.

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/ $1,500 ain’t $3,500. And I’m talking about a mid range smart one not top of the line.

Why should I pay extra for a mid-range when I can get a top of the line from a Chinese manufacturer for less.

Stop being a fucking peasent, Blocky, Tariffs aren't doing you a damn bit of good.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Why should I pay extra for a mid-range when I can get a top of the line from a Chinese manufacturer for less.

Stop being a fucking peasent, Blocky, Tariffs aren't doing you a damn bit of good.

/—-/ You democRATs love slave labor and hate seeing Americans get jobs.

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/ You democRATs love slave labor and hate seeing Americans get jobs.

Americans don't want those jobs.

And the Chinese love having them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Luckyone]

Tariffs protect industries and businesses, especially vital industries, from unfair foreign competition. Tariffs prevent huge sums of income from leaving the U.S. America became the industrial giant of the world behind the protective walls of sky-high tariffs for decades.

No, tariffs did not cause or contribute to the Great Depression--that's an old Democrat myth that was floated by FDR and his crowd to attack Republican trade policy, and it's a myth that some Libertarians misguidedly, mistakenly repeat.

Numerous nations around the world have developed their economies by using high tariffs. Think about this: If tariffs are so bad for consumers and the economy, why do so many other nations impose tariffs, including Canada, Mexico, China, Brazil, Argentina, the European Union, Japan, India, South Korea, and Taiwan?

Some reading for further research:

Why Tariffs Are Good

The claim that tariffs are inherently misguided and inevitably harmful does not stand up to scrutiny, especially when it comes to U.S. trade with China

www.tabletmag.com

Trump's Tariffs Are About Securing America's Future

Americans should not be gaslit into having to choose between sovereignty and safety or low prices.

thefederalist.com

In a Victory for Autoworkers, Auto Tariffs Mark the Beginning of the End of NAFTA and the “Free Trade” Disaster - UAW | United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America

Days after Volkswagen, the #2 automaker in the world, announced making $20.6 billion in profit in 2024, a new UAW survey of VW workers in Chattanooga reveals the devastating financial toll of VW’s substandard U.S. health care offerings.

uaw.org

Tariffs Are The Only Way To Restore Long-Term Economic Health

To make America make things again, tariffs are the only option.

thefederalist.com

One simple response to your OP

Tariffs can be good if done well. Trump does nothing well. Trump generated 3 bankruptcies of Casinos. No one ever fails with Casinos................Trump did.

This issue is not about tariffs but about Trump handling of the tariffs.

 

[schmidlap]

Tariffs protect industries and businesses, especially vital industries, from unfair foreign competition. Tariffs prevent huge sums of income from leaving the U.S. America became the industrial giant of the world behind the protective walls of sky-high tariffs for decades.

No, tariffs did not cause or contribute to the Great Depression--that's an old Democrat myth that was floated by FDR and his crowd to attack Republican trade policy, and it's a myth that some Libertarians misguidedly, mistakenly repeat.

Numerous nations around the world have developed their economies by using high tariffs. Think about this: If tariffs are so bad for consumers and the economy, why do so many other nations impose tariffs, including Canada, Mexico, China, Brazil, Argentina, the European Union, Japan, India, South Korea, and Taiwan?

Some reading for further research:

Why Tariffs Are Good

The claim that tariffs are inherently misguided and inevitably harmful does not stand up to scrutiny, especially when it comes to U.S. trade with China

www.tabletmag.com

Trump's Tariffs Are About Securing America's Future

Americans should not be gaslit into having to choose between sovereignty and safety or low prices.

thefederalist.com

In a Victory for Autoworkers, Auto Tariffs Mark the Beginning of the End of NAFTA and the “Free Trade” Disaster - UAW | United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America

Days after Volkswagen, the #2 automaker in the world, announced making $20.6 billion in profit in 2024, a new UAW survey of VW workers in Chattanooga reveals the devastating financial toll of VW’s substandard U.S. health care offerings.

uaw.org

Tariffs Are The Only Way To Restore Long-Term Economic Health

To make America make things again, tariffs are the only option.

thefederalist.com

The convicted felon's erratic tariffmania is having predictable results.

April 23, 2025​

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Trump has kicked off his term with an aggressive economic agenda, sparking trade wars as he slaps tariffs on major U.S. trading partners, trying to pressure the Federal Reserve to bend to his will and setting off the worst selloff in U.S. financial markets since the early months of the COVID pandemic five years ago.​

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Just 37% of respondents to the six-day poll that concluded on Monday approve of Trump's handling of the economy, down from 42% in the hours after his January 20 inauguration, when he promised to supercharge the economy and bring about a "Golden Age of America." The reading is well below than at any point in his first term, when it ranged from the mid-40's to mid-50's.​

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"You have a president who promised a golden age," said James Pethokoukis, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. "But everything that's supposed to be up is down, everything that's supposed to be down is up."​