Why support Israel?

[BulletProof]

scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

Jew-haters, according Lipush

How can you discern hatred from the report of simple facts? Jews are Antichrist and their rabbis perform oral sex on little boys.

"Rocks are hard and water is wet." Does saying that mean I hate rocks and water?

 

[Lipush]

scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

Jew-haters, according Lipush

How can you discern hatred from the report of simple facts? Jews are Antichrist and their rabbis perform oral sex on little boys.

"Rocks are hard and water is wet." Does saying that mean I hate rocks and water?

Before blaming anyone doing sex on little boys you should check out what your priests are doing.

I hear rumors, too.

And Neturey Karta are not real Jews.

 

[Lipush]

scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

Jew-haters, according Lipush

How can you discern hatred from the report of simple facts? Jews are Antichrist and their rabbis perform oral sex on little boys.

"Rocks are hard and water is wet." Does saying that mean I hate rocks and water?

Tell me something. When was the last time you did something for the benefit of others? To help the weak, feed the poor?

Since you're in such a hurry to spit out hatred on others, I bet you're a saint, aren't you?

Care to elaborate?

 

[Picaro]

RE: Why support Israel?
※→ et al,

I think we jumped the tracks here. Of course there has been historical events of decimation focused on one or another people. In the time since the beginning of recorded history, there has only been about 400 year when the world was totally at peace. Hell, even the US has been fighting one conflict or another nearly 93% of its political existence.

Why we support Israel is not so much about territory, politics or religion ⇔ as it is about the preservation and restoration of a culture and a people (Jewish Emancipation). Yes, many people say that the conflict was initiated over the territory. But that is like saying WWII start in 1939; when actually the conditions for war were set in the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. And with the emergence of the Age of Enlightenment in Europe (the idea that "reason" should trump "faith"), the idea of Jewish Emancipation followed closely behind on its heels.
Things like "reason" are hard to grasp. But faith (the bibles and scriptures) and land (the territories) were tangible; and lands could lead to power, wealth and influence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The issue is to make such a Jewish homeland, people were displaced from lands they lived on for thousands of years.

lol nonsense. The faux 'Palestinians' squatting in Gaza and the West Bank haven't been there 'thousands of years'; the vast majority of them migrated there when the Ottomans and British began economic development of the area in the last 3 decades of the 19th century. they are also not 'stateless', except by their own actions, they are Syrians and Egyptians and Iraqis for the most part. 'Palestinians' is a fiction invented by Arafat and others in the 1960's. Nobody was 'displaced' by Jews, that's nonsense. If you want to discuss Jews Behaving Badly, at least try to cite real history, instead of stupid propaganda; there is plenty in human history to discuss about people behaving badly, and Jews as a group aren't exceptional in that regard, but then you have the problem of trying to convince sane people they behaved more badly than their neighbors did, a blatantly impossible position to defend.

Source for anything your retarded self says?

In the next comment you prove you're not even a Human, but rather a retarded degenerate.

Nothing you say should be taken seriously, because you aren't Human.

Of course: any book on the Operation Reinhardt death camps, moron. They're probably banned in Poland, don't want to contradict the official Polish propaganda, you know. Insults from vermin like yourself are meaningless, considered compliments really, so insult away, black shirt.

 

[Picaro]

If we didn't support Israel, we wouldn't be in the middle-east. No 9/11, no Gulf war, not quagmire in Afghanistan. Not to mention all the billions of dollar each year we give to Israel and her neighbors.

Jesus said Jews are children of the devil. And, for some reason, some really twisted Christians think the children of the devil are the children of Abraham. God said he would bless those who bless Abraham. But, the Bible says Christians count as Abraham's children.

" Jesus" said that Jews are Children of the devil? I thought" Jesus" ( God's son) lol was all about love. Just more proof that all " Christians" know and practice is hate.

You're as stupid as he is.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

Jew-haters, according Lipush

How can you discern hatred from the report of simple facts? Jews are Antichrist and their rabbis perform oral sex on little boys.

"Rocks are hard and water is wet." Does saying that mean I hate rocks and water?

Before blaming anyone doing sex on little boys you should check out what your priests are doing.

I hear rumors, too.

And Neturey Karta are not real Jews.

Haha, so why did Jews promote Catholic pedos, but not Metzitzah B'peh Jewish pedos?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

If we didn't support Israel, we wouldn't be in the middle-east. No 9/11, no Gulf war, not quagmire in Afghanistan. Not to mention all the billions of dollar each year we give to Israel and her neighbors.

Jesus said Jews are children of the devil. And, for some reason, some really twisted Christians think the children of the devil are the children of Abraham. God said he would bless those who bless Abraham. But, the Bible says Christians count as Abraham's children.

" Jesus" said that Jews are Children of the devil? I thought" Jesus" ( God's son) lol was all about love. Just more proof that all " Christians" know and practice is hate.

You're as stupid as he is.

Talking about yourself?
I mean you support Jews so vigorously, to the point of blaming Poland for the Holocaust like a retard.

Then you get upset when a obvious real Jew attacks Christianity.

You British Southerners, and Jews have so much in common, you're both vagabonds, who displaced Natives.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

RE: Why support Israel?
※→ et al,

I think we jumped the tracks here. Of course there has been historical events of decimation focused on one or another people. In the time since the beginning of recorded history, there has only been about 400 year when the world was totally at peace. Hell, even the US has been fighting one conflict or another nearly 93% of its political existence.

Why we support Israel is not so much about territory, politics or religion ⇔ as it is about the preservation and restoration of a culture and a people (Jewish Emancipation). Yes, many people say that the conflict was initiated over the territory. But that is like saying WWII start in 1939; when actually the conditions for war were set in the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. And with the emergence of the Age of Enlightenment in Europe (the idea that "reason" should trump "faith"), the idea of Jewish Emancipation followed closely behind on its heels.
Things like "reason" are hard to grasp. But faith (the bibles and scriptures) and land (the territories) were tangible; and lands could lead to power, wealth and influence.

Most Respectfully,
R

The issue is to make such a Jewish homeland, people were displaced from lands they lived on for thousands of years.

lol nonsense. The faux 'Palestinians' squatting in Gaza and the West Bank haven't been there 'thousands of years'; the vast majority of them migrated there when the Ottomans and British began economic development of the area in the last 3 decades of the 19th century. they are also not 'stateless', except by their own actions, they are Syrians and Egyptians and Iraqis for the most part. 'Palestinians' is a fiction invented by Arafat and others in the 1960's. Nobody was 'displaced' by Jews, that's nonsense. If you want to discuss Jews Behaving Badly, at least try to cite real history, instead of stupid propaganda; there is plenty in human history to discuss about people behaving badly, and Jews as a group aren't exceptional in that regard, but then you have the problem of trying to convince sane people they behaved more badly than their neighbors did, a blatantly impossible position to defend.

Source for anything your retarded self says?

In the next comment you prove you're not even a Human, but rather a retarded degenerate.

Nothing you say should be taken seriously, because you aren't Human.

Of course: any book on the Operation Reinhardt death camps, moron. They're probably banned in Poland, don't want to contradict the official Polish propaganda, you know. Insults from vermin like yourself are meaningless, considered compliments really, so insult away, black shirt.

Jewish Historian Emanuel Ringelblum living his last days in the Nazi German controlled Warsaw Ghetto, specifically called out Jewish Ghetto Police Nazi collaborators, as not only more brutal than Polish Blue Police Nazi collaborators, but even worse than Nazi Germans themselves at times.

Why not blame Jews then for the Holocaust?

I guess it's more convenient for Zionist retards to pick on Polish people.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Your stupidity is prime example to why many Poles to this day don't like Jews.

Why the f*ck would Poles appreciate the dirties who typically not only neglect Polish victims of the Holocaust, but whom typically blame Poland for the Holocaust.

No, I've dealt with loads of Jews online, and I refuse to support your repulsive twits.

Ok so get it it that you irrationally hate an entire religious group...

Ever sat down to lunch with a Jew and chatted...like normal people do?

Supporting Israel is complicated and the OP is open ended. You can condemn or support state actions but the Jewish people, like any other, are diverse individuals. To hate them as a group based on religion or eth nic heritage is to demonize and thst leads to dehumanizing.

Well, I don't know how Jews can expect to be respected, after they've killed thousands of Poles following WW2, push dumb Polak jokes slander, push Poland did the Holocaust lies, and in general push up against Conservative, and Catholic values that most Poles hold dear.

No, I wouldn't say I hate all Jews, just a lot of them.

I've never even seen a Jew show any gratitude towards Poland.

So, why should I show them any gratitude?

No, I don't like Jews, in fact they're my least favorite people.

Hitler killed them. Poles and Jews both. In fact, a lot of POLISH Jews too. They were Poles...

If Jews were Polish, why did most of them speak Yiddish, rather than Polish?

No, Polish Jews weren't Polish, nothing about them was Polish.

If Latinos are Americans why do they speak Spanish? Numbskull.

So, Spanish speaking Latinos in the U.S, are the same people as English speaking Whites, or Blacks in the U.S?

There's only 1 Polish people, and they're Catholic based.

Jews came to Poland as immigrants, you don't think, or act Polish, so why should we care about you?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

If the Bible was questioned as hateful, would you fight with such vigor?

You are asking the wrong question. If there was anti-Christian or anti-Rohyina or whatever which was as global and as powerful and as inherent as antisemitism -- I would fight with such vigor. There isn't. There just isn't. This board is infected with antisemitism. The world is infected with antisemitism. You are part of that.

So, you are admitting to being biased, and unfair?
Thus far we've had a bunch of Zionists here, suggesting that Jews deserve more rights, than others.
No wonder why no one likes these pricks.

There's also a lot of anti-Polish propaganda floating around, and in most cases Jews are at the forefront of this.

Why should I like f'in Jews?

Oh, Poland accepted Jewish refugees, granted them the first Jewish civil rights the Statute of Kalisz, warned the World about the Holocaust with Jan Karski, and had Zegota the only WW2 organization dedicated to saving Jews only.

Yet, the rat faced f'ers, want to start a culture war with Polish people?
They got one with me.

Don't expect me to like these slimy rats.

You're a hateful human being. As a Catholic, you should pray Jesus implant more compassion in your heart.

You blame Poland for the Holocaust, and then expect me to like you?
That's hilarious.

No, I'm not really Catholic, I'm a skeptical agnostic.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Let's be honest here.

You opened up a thread about why should you support Israel and started with all kind of explanations.

None of them qualified as a reason for you. Not a real one.

Instead of dragging us for 30 pages of nonsense, you could have saved us all the headache and just say

"I don't want to support Israel because I hate all Jews."

Which proves what I said many times - scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

My ex girl friend the only girl I really truly loved was half Jewish, and my only real true friend in college was half Jewish.

No, I don't hate all Jews, just most of them.

although my ex girl friend tricked me, she told me she was half Polish, and wanted me to come over for Kielbasa, while saying Jews were greedy.

It's not until later I found out she was half Jewish.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Why support Israel?
※→ Picaro, ILOVEISRAEL, BulletProof, et al,

No one knows what might or might not have happened (as a hypothetical) if the President Truman [the President that issued the very first order on the military release → Weapons of Mass Destruction (the Atomic Bombing of Japan)] had not stepped forward and set forth the American Policy regarding Israel.

• In separate statement President Truman said oh 14 May, 1948:​

"I had faith in Israel before it was established, I have faith in it now."

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"This government has been informed that a Jewish state has been
proclaimed in Palestine, and recognition has been requested by the
provisional government thereof. The United States recognizes the
provisional government as the de facto authority of the new State of Israel."
​

And there is very little, in the way of a question, as to where President Eisenhower (the former Supreme Allied Commander in Europe) stood on the Issue when the President reminded the Israelis (A US Presidential Message to Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion, October 31, 1956) that:

“Despite the present, temporary interests that Israel has in common with France and Britain,
you ought not to forget that
the strength of Israel and her future are bound up with the United States.”
​

If we didn't support Israel, we wouldn't be in the middle-east. No 9/11, no Gulf war, not quagmire in Afghanistan. Not to mention all the billions of dollar each year we give to Israel and her neighbors.

Jesus said Jews are children of the devil. And, for some reason, some really twisted Christians think the children of the devil are the children of Abraham. God said he would bless those who bless Abraham. But, the Bible says Christians count as Abraham's children.

" Jesus" said that Jews are Children of the devil? I thought" Jesus" ( God's son) lol was all about love. Just more proof that all " Christians" know and practice is hate.

You're as stupid as he is.

(COMMENT)

Since the time of the US involvement with the Barbary Pirates, up and through today --- with an interest in maintaining the free-flow of oil (energy), the US has been active in the Middle East; commercially, politically, and militarily. After WWII, the US had an interest in posturing a predominant influence over key critical regions in the world. And the Middle East was one of those regions.

All the precursors and ingredients for the radicalization of Muslims into Islamist --- and --- the development of Jihadist and Fundamentalist were already present and mixing to form what were see today as asymmetric formations and combatants.

YES! Just as Osama bin Laden said in his famous 2002 Letter to America:

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

a) You attacked us in Palestine:

(i) Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews,​

You know what? (RHETORICAL) If it had not been America standing-up and doing the right thing, then it would have been some other Major Power. As it was, America (not quite alone - there were other contributors) moved to set the conditions that would help protect and preserve the Jewish State [Part II - Boundaries, Section B - The Jewish State, A/RES/181 (II)]; as adopted.

Now there will always be, somewhere incubating, Tyrannical Dictators and Religious Cult Leaders (maybe a Saddam Hussein, maybe an Ayatollah Khomeini, maybe a Hassan Nasrallah, or even a Sheikh Ahmed Yassin). But as America is (predominately) predisposed to protect and preserve benevolent cultures like the Jewish People, it will always be a target by such people like Osama bin Laden.

To say blame our support of Israel on the attacks of 9/11, the Gulf Wars, and anti-terrorist action in Afghanistan, is to suggest that America was too powerful and successful prior to these events. The rights of self-determination and sovereignty are not dependent of US support. But rather it is the nature of America to support cultures like the Jewish People from being besieged and oppressed by the entirety of the Arab League.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Lipush]

If the Bible was questioned as hateful, would you fight with such vigor?

You are asking the wrong question. If there was anti-Christian or anti-Rohyina or whatever which was as global and as powerful and as inherent as antisemitism -- I would fight with such vigor. There isn't. There just isn't. This board is infected with antisemitism. The world is infected with antisemitism. You are part of that.

So, you are admitting to being biased, and unfair?
Thus far we've had a bunch of Zionists here, suggesting that Jews deserve more rights, than others.
No wonder why no one likes these pricks.

There's also a lot of anti-Polish propaganda floating around, and in most cases Jews are at the forefront of this.

Why should I like f'in Jews?

Oh, Poland accepted Jewish refugees, granted them the first Jewish civil rights the Statute of Kalisz, warned the World about the Holocaust with Jan Karski, and had Zegota the only WW2 organization dedicated to saving Jews only.

Yet, the rat faced f'ers, want to start a culture war with Polish people?
They got one with me.

Don't expect me to like these slimy rats.

You're a hateful human being. As a Catholic, you should pray Jesus implant more compassion in your heart.

You blame Poland for the Holocaust, and then expect me to like you?
That's hilarious.

No, I'm not really Catholic, I'm a skeptical agnostic.

Expect you to like us?

Why do you think you're so important, people want your likings?

For all I know, you can be a drug addict, fat, lazy and ugly person.

That is the wonderful idea of internet. I don't know who I'm talking to, so for all I care I can be wiser, with more integrity and sophistication than most people.

And when it comes to Antisemites, it's even more likely.

 

[Lipush]

Let's be honest here.

You opened up a thread about why should you support Israel and started with all kind of explanations.

None of them qualified as a reason for you. Not a real one.

Instead of dragging us for 30 pages of nonsense, you could have saved us all the headache and just say

"I don't want to support Israel because I hate all Jews."

Which proves what I said many times - scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

My ex girl friend the only girl I really truly loved was half Jewish, and my only real true friend in college was half Jewish.

No, I don't hate all Jews, just most of them.

although my ex girl friend tricked me, she told me she was half Polish, and wanted me to come over for Kielbasa, while saying Jews were greedy.

It's not until later I found out she was half Jewish.

Here is where I know you don't really know anything.

There is no such thing as "half Jewish" like there is no such thing as "half pregnant".

And "most of my friends" are Jews is the one cliche most Antisemites say when confronted with their own hatred.

You're not very original.

 

[Indeependent]

Saving A Person Is Like Saving The World
"Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world."

That is a wonderful concept to live by...

Sanhedrin 37a: Therefore, a single person was created to teach you that whoever loses one soul from Israel, the scriptures make it seem as if he has lost a whole world, and whoever sustains one soul from Israel.

Sanhedrin 4:1 (22a) "Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world."

Way to go, rip the verse from context.

In context, Sanhedrin 4 says God created one person, Adam, to teach Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world, which is the same argument found in Sanhedrin 37a, except there it's explicitly limited to Israel (Jews).

The Talmud teaches that gentiles are soulless animals, so to a Jew, Sanhedrin 4 says nothing different than what Sanhedrin 37 says.

Zarah 22 says, "It is written: And you my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are adam: You are called adam but heathens are not called adam." [adam=man] What this verse explicitly says is the theme of every page of the Talmud. You have no evidence the your quote from the Talmud applies to gentiles, and the whole Talmud stands against your claim.

So tell us why a group of people is referred to as a single person.

 

[Cossack1483]

Israel is the Grandson of Abraham. Final.

 

[Roudy]

Jewish rabbies perform oral sex on little boys because the Talmud tells them to.

Oh great, another Darwin Award winner who fantasizes about sucking Jewish penises.

Jewish rabbis perform oral sex an little boys, because the Talmud tells them to, and that's your reply? Are your embarrassed by your Antichrist religion?

So are you embarassed that a rabbi performed oral sex on Jesus when he was a little boy?

 

[Roudy]

scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

Jew-haters, according Lipush

How can you discern hatred from the report of simple facts? Jews are Antichrist and their rabbis perform oral sex on little boys.

"Rocks are hard and water is wet." Does saying that mean I hate rocks and water?

Why are Catholic antisemites obsessed about "sex with little boys"?

 

[BulletProof]

So are you embarassed that a rabbi performed oral sex on Jesus when he was a little boy?

You're nothing but a lying Jew, Roudy, to assign the c0ck-sucking pedophilia of your Talmudism to what good people in Bible times practiced.

 

[Roudy]

Let's be honest here.

You opened up a thread about why should you support Israel and started with all kind of explanations.

None of them qualified as a reason for you. Not a real one.

Instead of dragging us for 30 pages of nonsense, you could have saved us all the headache and just say

"I don't want to support Israel because I hate all Jews."

Which proves what I said many times - scratch the Anti-Israeli and find the Jew hater.

My ex girl friend the only girl I really truly loved was half Jewish, and my only real true friend in college was half Jewish.

No, I don't hate all Jews, just most of them.

although my ex girl friend tricked me, she told me she was half Polish, and wanted me to come over for Kielbasa, while saying Jews were greedy.

It's not until later I found out she was half Jewish.

Ah so you got dumped by a half Jewish girl. And now you blame all Jews because she figured out that you're an illiterate loser going nowhere in life. Kudos to the girl.