Why Shouldn't Police Be Allowed To Kill Suspects Who Don't Comply?

Police should not exist at all, as there really is no legal authority by which they can be created.
All police are criminal because of the illegal legislation they enforce, like Prohibition, the war on drugs, asset forfeiture, no-knock warrants, 3 strikes law, etc.
We need to get rid of all police, now.
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Sweetie ... There is no legal authority without law enforcement.
Without law enforcement, you wouldn't have anything but a bunch of words.

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Wrong.
Police only existed in any number after 1900 or so when traffic citations became a way of financing them.
Before then, the unorganized militia, meaning everyone, took care of enforcing the law.
And they did a much better job than the corrupt police.
Back then you could not have had illegal legislation like Prohibition, the War on Drugs, 3 strikes laws, asset forfeiture, no-knock warrants, etc.
It is police who cause all this illegal legislation to happen.
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.







And isn't it weird that left wing loons ONLY want the police to be armed!

The only thing preventing this from becoming commonplace, is an armed populace.

Agreed. We need to disarm the police or get rid of them entirely. The police always lead to a police state and the end of democracy.
we arent a democracy,,

Yes we are, but it happens to be constitutional, representative, democratic, republic, to be more accurate.
But that is a type of democracy.
Salient point being that the defense of inherent rights of individuals is the only source of legal authority.
Dictatorship use arbitrary justifications for law, essentially might makes right, instead.
Cops are only legal when there is justification by the defense of the rights of others.
Things like the War on Drugs defend the rights of no one, so are inherently illegal.
So we should get rid of the cops.
 
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?
Because they’re suspects – innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

That to conservatives this is a ‘question’ at all is repugnant.
Funny, what you just said , only applies to Democrats, because Andrew Cujo of New State has 10s of thousands of murdered elderly on his hands, and he still hasnt been in court yet, while Rudy got taken in because the crooked FBI thought they had shit on him....
Must.Deflect.
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.







And isn't it weird that left wing loons ONLY want the police to be armed!

The only thing preventing this from becoming commonplace, is an armed populace.

Agreed. We need to disarm the police or get rid of them entirely. The police always lead to a police state and the end of democracy.
we arent a democracy,,

Yes we are, but it happens to be constitutional, representative, democratic, republic, to be more accurate.
But that is a type of democracy.
Salient point being that the defense of inherent rights of individuals is the only source of legal authority.
Dictatorship use arbitrary justifications for law, essentially might makes right, instead.
Cops are only legal when there is justification by the defense of the rights of others.
Things like the War on Drugs defend the rights of no one, so are inherently illegal.
So we should get rid of the cops.
individual rights dont exist in any type of democracy,, they can always be voted away,,

thats why we are a constitutional republic with laws to protect those rights,, and police are supposed to protect them ,,
the problem with police is a lack of honor not that they exist,,
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
Despite repeated attempts by leftist to turn the Executive Branch in one centralized power...we haven't done that in this country. Police are not judges, and juries they don't get to decide guilt and then punishment. So that's why.

Certainly, there are cases in which a police officer can use deadly force, such as when a suspect threatens their lives, or the lives of the public...such as in a high speed chase. However, it appears in this case, the threat was no longer there, as the suspect was caught. Those involved seem to be getting what they deserved.

Legally high speed chases are against the law.
They endanger citizens.
Police who engage in high speed chases should be arrested.
When you chase someone, it causes a flight/fight reflex people have no control over.
When you chase someone, it is your fault when you force them to run.
 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
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You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

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The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
Except when shooting an unarmed woman....Then it is okay? You progs sure do have a "War on Women"..

No idea what you are rambling about. The sad thing is neither do you.

I notice you always dodge the issue when someone points out the fact that you support cops shooting unarmed protesters.

If you're so ashamed of your opinion, maybe you should change it.
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.







And isn't it weird that left wing loons ONLY want the police to be armed!

The only thing preventing this from becoming commonplace, is an armed populace.

Agreed. We need to disarm the police or get rid of them entirely. The police always lead to a police state and the end of democracy.
we arent a democracy,,

Yes we are, but it happens to be constitutional, representative, democratic, republic, to be more accurate.
But that is a type of democracy.
Salient point being that the defense of inherent rights of individuals is the only source of legal authority.
Dictatorship use arbitrary justifications for law, essentially might makes right, instead.
Cops are only legal when there is justification by the defense of the rights of others.
Things like the War on Drugs defend the rights of no one, so are inherently illegal.
So we should get rid of the cops.
individual rights dont exist in any type of democracy,, they can always be voted away,,

thats why we are a constitutional republic with laws to protect those rights,, and police are supposed to protect them ,,
the problem with police is a lack of honor not that they exist,,
If it is a representative, democratic, republic, the rights can't be voted away.

The word "democratic" is shorthand.
No one means the total popular vote of ancient Athens.

I don't think the problem is lack of honor in some police, but the whole system of hiring people and corrupt politicians signing their paychecks that always cause police to inherently be corrupt.
Mercenary police have never and will never work.
They always become more corrupt over time, and that is always the way democratic republics end.
 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
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You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

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The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
Except when shooting an unarmed woman....Then it is okay? You progs sure do have a "War on Women"..

No idea what you are rambling about. The sad thing is neither do you.

I notice you always dodge the issue when someone points out the fact that you support cops shooting unarmed protesters.

If you're so ashamed of your opinion, maybe you should change it.

Yes, shooting Ashli Babbitt was also totally illegal.
 
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase.

Why shouldn't police officers who lie be fired?

Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.

Because then we'd have no police.

The SCOTUS has already ruled that cops can lie and it's fine, but if you lie to them, it's a crime.
 
Wrong.
Police only existed in any number after 1900 or so when traffic citations became a way of financing them.
Before then, the unorganized militia, meaning everyone, took care of enforcing the law.

The first police department in the United States was established in New York City in 1844 (it was officially organized in 1845). Other cities soon followed suit: New Orleans and Cincinnati (Ohio) in 1852; Boston and Philadelphia in 1854; Chicago and Milwaukee (Wis.) in 1855; and Baltimore (Md.) and Newark (N.J.) in 1857. Those early departments all used the London Metropolitan Police as a model. Like the Metropolitan Police, American police were organized in a quasi-military command structure. Their main task was the prevention of crime and disorder, and they provided a wide array of other public services. There were no detectives.

 
As someone who was just recently a victim of a hit and run by an old black man who thought he could get away, I have no sympathy. Bury his black ass right next to Trayvon.
 
Agreed. We need to disarm the police or get rid of them entirely. The police always lead to a police state and the end of democracy.
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Law enforcement officers are agents of the Government.
If you get rid of the law enforcement officers, then you get rid of any authority the Government can actually enforce.

Dude ... If you have a flat tire, taking all the tires off your car won't make it drive better.

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Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase.

Why shouldn't police officers who lie be fired?

Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
Why this was not dealt with decades ago is mind boggling. The ironic thing is that at some point law enforcement or whatever they call it will be doing a hundred times worse and it will be legal as the economy lessens.

In years past they would have said that the man died in the wreck with no proof they were lying. Things are different now. They tried to not release the video proving they were lying but not even an unjust justice system can cover that up forever now.
Ah, the good old days when criminals were treated like the scum they are. Arent you embarrassed that you spend all your time defending rapists and murderers?
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.

Police should not exist at all, as there really is no legal authority by which they can be created.
All police are criminal because of the illegal legislation they enforce, like Prohibition, the war on drugs, asset forfeiture, no-knock warrants, 3 strikes law, etc.
We need to get rid of all police, now.
What a novel idea.....

 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
.

You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

.

The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
Except when shooting an unarmed woman....Then it is okay? You progs sure do have a "War on Women"..

No idea what you are rambling about. The sad thing is neither do you.

I notice you always dodge the issue when someone points out the fact that you support cops shooting unarmed protesters.

If you're so ashamed of your opinion, maybe you should change it.

Yes, shooting Ashli Babbitt was also totally illegal.
You do know that the Capitol is funded by tax payers, so is the "People's House" not the progressive elite building?
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
Despite repeated attempts by leftist to turn the Executive Branch in one centralized power...we haven't done that in this country. Police are not judges, and juries they don't get to decide guilt and then punishment. So that's why.

Certainly, there are cases in which a police officer can use deadly force, such as when a suspect threatens their lives, or the lives of the public...such as in a high speed chase. However, it appears in this case, the threat was no longer there, as the suspect was caught. Those involved seem to be getting what they deserved.

Legally high speed chases are against the law.
They endanger citizens.
Police who engage in high speed chases should be arrested.
When you chase someone, it causes a flight/fight reflex people have no control over.
When you chase someone, it is your fault when you force them to run.
police should be arrested for their job?

What a lame accuse that would justify no person ever being caught

people have control over their actions and when they elude they are selfish, dangerous criminals that should be punished harshly
 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
.

You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

.

The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
Except when shooting an unarmed woman....Then it is okay? You progs sure do have a "War on Women"..

No idea what you are rambling about. The sad thing is neither do you.

I notice you always dodge the issue when someone points out the fact that you support cops shooting unarmed protesters.

If you're so ashamed of your opinion, maybe you should change it.

Once again no clue what you are rambling about.
 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
.

You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

.

The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
Except when shooting an unarmed woman....Then it is okay? You progs sure do have a "War on Women"..

No idea what you are rambling about. The sad thing is neither do you.

I notice you always dodge the issue when someone points out the fact that you support cops shooting unarmed protesters.

If you're so ashamed of your opinion, maybe you should change it.

Yes, shooting Ashli Babbitt was also totally illegal.

Oh, I see. Go to the Jan 6 thread and see what I said. Not that it will stop the lame replies.
 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
.

You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

.

The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
Except when shooting an unarmed woman....Then it is okay? You progs sure do have a "War on Women"..

No idea what you are rambling about. The sad thing is neither do you.

I notice you always dodge the issue when someone points out the fact that you support cops shooting unarmed protesters.

If you're so ashamed of your opinion, maybe you should change it.

Once again no clue what you are rambling about.

I know you don't have a clue. But, in this case, you're just ashamed of the fact that you enthusiastically support cops killing unarmed protestors, which is actually a good start on your road to potentially becoming human.
 

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