25 yr. old "Sovereign Citizen" killed in Utah.

[odanny]

As Stalin’s flunky Beria used to say, “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”

We see the Deep State investigating trump with a microscope while it refuses to investigate biden’s son

So libs can take their corrupt judicial system and stick it where the sun dont shine

This shows your stupidity, not that we needed another example.

 

[sealybobo]

Sorry Bobo but Hunter took it into a shop for repair then never came back to claim it.

Ok so what? What was found on it?

 

[Mac-7]

This shows your stupidity, not that we needed another example.

Are you claiming yo be the smart guy in the room?

 

[Mac-7]

Ok so what? What was found on it?

I dont know if anything grossly illegal was on it

But pretty suggestive of crimes and otherwise embarrassing to the sitting president

So hiding the contents was rank lib partisanship by the Obama Deep State

 

[toobfreak]

Are you claiming yo be the smart guy in the room?

I hope not. The stoop has gone from naming himself after a McDonald's sandwich (McRib) to now rhyming himself after 'My Fanny.'

 

[JoeMoma]

There is no corruption in the Biden family. So don't blame the FBI for not performing a witch hunt.

The heads of 51 intelligence agencies signed a statement that the Hunter Biden Laptop had "the earmarks of Russian Disinformation" before the Trump/Biden Debate in 2020. It has since come out the the Laptop evidence is real.. not Russian Information. Theis was just a case of the deep state covering for Biden and sticking it to Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

Are you claiming yo be the smart guy in the room?

Well when Republican House members admit they have zero evidence that the Biden's are criminals and you keep pushing the conspiracy.

It's not that you are stupid. You're doing it on purpose right? You realize the impeachment hearings against Biden are a joke? Theater? Politics? Payback for holding Trump accountable.

And now we know the House Republicans are just doing what Trump tells them to do.

If you don't know all this, maybe you are stupid.

I dont know if anything grossly illegal was on it

But pretty suggestive of crimes and otherwise embarrassing to the sitting president

So hiding the contents was rank lib partisanship by the Obama Deep State

So nothing. Thank you. BTW, the embarrassing stuff on it, was just made up.

The alleged diary of the president's daughter has not been authenticated.​

Statements from a diary published on a dubious website — which themselves have been taken out of context — allegedly came from a misplaced diary written by Ashley Biden and later sold to the right-wing sting operation Project Veritas, whose founder said their authenticity couldn't be confirmed.

Because the authenticity of this document or the images published by National File have not been confirmed, any claims derived from the "diary" — including ones at issue here — must inherently be rated "Unproven."

 

[odanny]

I hope not. The stoop has gone from naming himself after a McDonald's sandwich (McRib) to now rhyming himself after 'My Fanny.'

At the end of the day, you're still a Russian troll.

 

[sealybobo]

The heads of 51 intelligence agencies signed a statement that the Hunter Biden Laptop had "the earmarks of Russian Disinformation" before the Trump/Biden Debate in 2020. It has since come out the the Laptop evidence is real.. not Russian Information. Theis was just a case of the deep state covering for Biden and sticking it to Trump.

WRONG!

Because the authenticity of this document or the images published by National File have not been confirmed, any claims derived from the "diary" — including ones at issue here — must inherently be rated "Unproven."

 

[martybegan]

WRONG!

Because the authenticity of this document or the images published by National File have not been confirmed, any claims derived from the "diary" — including ones at issue here — must inherently be rated "Unproven."

he's talking about the laptop, not the diary. try to focus, dippy.

 

[toobfreak]

At the end of the day, you're still a Russian troll.

And you're a chinese ass's dingleberry.

 

[fncceo]

Yes, he made a conscious decision to refuse paying the state for a license registration.

He made the decision to fight with police rather than have his day in court.

If you truly believe in the right if your cause, you let the police give you the ticket and take your case to court like a civilized person.

Cops don't decide cases... judges do.

 

[toobfreak]

He made the decision to fight with police rather than have his day in court.

They made the decision to murder a man, rather than have him have his day in court making his case, or let him go another day without paying his fee to the state for their tacit permission for him to drive around his own country.

If you truly believe in the right if your cause, you let the police give you the ticket and take your case to court like a civilized person.

Had they handled it properly as a problem solver rather than a mere law enforcer in so unlit a way demanding compliance following other's rules, he would still be alive.

Cops don't decide cases... judges do.

They did this time. They decided his life. They decided he would never have a case.

 

[odanny]

They made the decision to murder a man, rather than have him have his day in court making his case, or let him go another day without paying his fee to the state for their tacit permission for him to drive around his own country.

Hey dipshit, not only was he not cooperating, but he also was armed. Perhaps excessive force was used, but when in a split decision moment of crisis with an armed suspect disobeying lawful orders, the fault lies entirely with the decedent.

 

[toobfreak]

the fault lies entirely with the decedent.

Communist N. Korean troll say what?

 

[fncceo]

No one should think for a second that "Sovereign Citizens"are about freedom or liberty.

The movement began in the early '70s as an offshoot of White Supremacy groups and evolved into a mail-order fraud where easily duped people would learn "the real law" and, if they paid for the educational materials, would be able to avoid punishment for breaking the law, never pay taxes, and even take obtain property by suing random citizens.

Not a word of what they learned was actual law and despite littering the courts with hundreds of thousands of law suits and spurious court cases, no Sovereign Citizen has ever won a case in court.

They are often so deluded in their beliefs that they are willing to become violent with police and have killed several police officers -- most recently in Queensland, Australia where an American Sovereign Citizen shot two police officers coming to serve a summons.

Police are always on their guard around these misguided and often violent individuals because their tactics don't work in court (and never have) and they often choose to attempt to bully police into accepting their arguments.

They made the decision to murder a man, rather than have him have his day in court making his case, or let him go another day without paying his fee to the state for their tacit permission for him to drive around his own country.


Had they handled it properly as a problem solver rather than a mere law enforcer in so unlit a way demanding compliance following other's rules, he would still be alive.


They did this time. They decided his life. They decided he would never have a case.

Let's hope that when you decide to resist arrest with a firearm because you can't be bothered to get a driver license like everyone else, you don't get fatally shot.

Maybe just a flesh wound.

 

[Leviticus]

Is this about the the dumbass who threaten to assassinate Biden and was shot dead by FBI agents after he shot at them when they went to his house with a warrant? If so then fuck the guy. One less dumbass to poison the gene pool.

 

[rampart]

Be easy enough to fence in the autonomous zones and put a fence around them in the big cities.

Then we could create mandatory passports that cost $100,000 each year per individual for those living and working there to pay for the fence and guards.

I think we should start this passport program in Washington DC since they like to fence themselves in...

CHUCKLE

or we could just deport anyone who renounces their citizenship.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

OK, you don't want to be part of society, fine, but you can't use public roadways, that are paid for and maintained by gas and income taxes, which you also refuse to pay.



A 25-year-old man who espoused beliefs that aligned with the so-called “sovereign citizen” movement was shot dead by police officers in Utah after being pulled over for driving without a proper license plate.

On March 1, Chase Allan, 25, was pulled over by police in the small Utah town of Farmington after cops noticed he was driving without a legitimate license plate. In its stead was a plate that read “American State Citizen, Utah” and featured the U.S. seal—something an expert described as a sovereign citizen symbol.

Police released body camera footage of the shooting on Wednesday afternoon, which shows Allan speaking through a small crack in the window and refusing to provide his ID. "I don't need registration, and I don't answer questions,” Allan tells the police officer.

Eventually Allan provides the officer with his passport although he refuses to say that he is Chase Allan and adds that the passport is just a piece of plastic. “If you don’t step out we’re going to break the window and pull you out,” a cop tells Allan, who does not leave the vehicle and instead states, “We’re going to have an issue.”

Police then move in to remove him from the vehicle, and one repeatedly says “gun.” During a press conference revealing the footage Wednesday, Farmington Police Chief Eric Johnsen noted on the screen that Allan’s gun holster was initially obscured in the car and the weapon was eventually visible on the floor. It’s unclear if Allan was reaching for it at any point as he was also holding a cell phone.

Within seconds of the officer yelling “gun,” a barrage of shots ring out, hitting Allan, who later died at a hospital.

Allan was hit 12 times, according to the family, who described the situation as a “brutal murder” and raised questions about if the arrest was targeted, an idea the police rejected. In an emotional Facebook post, Allan’s sister wrote that police were “stonewalling” them and that they learned about his death from the news.

“I don’t want to speculate, but I think the initial officer made a really interesting comment to the driver that ‘this is going to go the way you decide it’s going to go,’” said Chief Johnsen when asked if he thought the situation could have gone any other way.

Allan lived at home with his parents who described him as a “son, brother, grandson, nephew, peer, teammate, student and neighbor amongst many other important roles he played within our community.”

“He has been studying law the last few years and was a patriot doing what he could to defend the people’s freedom and liberty in his community,” his family wrote about him.

While Allan’s beliefs aren’t definitively known, there are several indications he was an adherent to the sovereign citizen movement, which can be best described as a group of people who believe they’re not bound by the laws of the country they reside in. Driving without a legitimate license plate, refusing to cooperate with police officers, and claiming independence from the laws of the land are typical in the movement.

Allan’s family rejected the term “sovereign citizen,” instead describing him as a “state national.” In a statement made to Heavy.com, Allan’s sister said, “The term sovereign citizen has been used by certain entities to weaponize government and law enforcement against the people.” However, according to sovereign citizen expert Christine Sarteschi “aside from a bit of difference in nomenclature, they are the same.”


Allan had previously interrupted a court hearing over his mother’s traffic violation—where she was ticketed for driving an unregistered and uninsured car without a license—and was so disruptive he had to be removed from the courthouse. Both Allan and his mother had used arguments tied to the sovereign citizen movement in the courthouse.

Sovereign citizen ideology has been around for decades but experienced a resurgence in popularity during the pandemic. Across the world, people were using the ideas from the community to refuse to comply with COVID-19 health restrictions. Despite the departure of government health regulations, the growth of the sovereign citizen movement has not slowed down.

Sovereign citizens have a longstanding history of not cooperating with police and, in some cases, being so anti-authority it leads to violence. In a recent case in Australia, two police officers and a neighbor were ambushed and killed by three people. The three were then shot dead during a police raid following the killings.

Man Killed by Cops During Traffic Stop Had ‘Sovereign Citizen’ License Plate

Chase Allan was pulled over by Utah cops for not having a proper license plate. He said he didn’t need a registration and didn’t have to cooperate.

www.vice.com

I have to wonder how many Trumpers out there are,. or a least relate to Sovereign Citizens \, There seems to be a Nexus between them and the Sovereign Citizens around QAnon conspiracy theories and contempt for established institutions and legitimate authority

Sovereign citizens: A narrative review with implications of violence​

The FBI defines sovereign citizens as “individuals who openly reject their US citizenship status, believe that most forms of established government, authority, and institutions are illegitimate, and seek, wholly or in part, through unlawful acts of force or violence, to further their claim to be immune from government authority.

Comon on people fess up. I am willing to be that Trump himself admires them for their “above the law” attitude

 

[Woodznutz]

He gave his life for his cause. He needs a statue.