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California Democrats disagree with you.... in fact they say no social distancing either.Re-opening schools in the United States this fall, could double the infection and death rate in the country.
www.foxnews.com
The estimate that 50% of cases may be spread by people who aren't showing symptoms is based on a model published by the National Academy of Sciences.except that, there are no recorded cases were that has happened, zeroKids can be asymptomatic spreaders.People over 60 are at high risk. That is the science.
Children are extremely low risk or not vectors. That is the science.
Democrats claim to be the party of science but this proves they dont care about science.
Maybe the old/sick school teachers and bureaucracy workers should stay home.
Even though the kids might not get sick, they still get infected and spread it to older people.
www.cbsnews.com
In spite of increasing spread of a pandemic. In spite of what we know about the consequences of reopening too soon. In spite of over 135,000 dead Americans.It’s not just schools,all businesses need to reopen as well.Either schools open or the usa slides into a major depressionAs the schools were shut down by responsible people in March, and less responsible people in May, there has not, thank God, been the chance for spread in schools. But using that to justify an unsafe opening is specious.The choice for teachers is your health and the health of your family, or your job. And you believe this should be the rationale for opening schools before we control this pandemic. Why did you choose to check both your common sense and your empathy at the door?So you're okay with spreading the pandemic without consideration of children, teachers, parents and the wider community? Students spend 6 hours inside. That's long enough to contact the virus. Grocers wear masks, but not enough customers do. Do you?Should all grocery stores be closed because store workers got corona and died.Three Arizona teachers who shared a classroom got coronavirus. One of them died
By Jennifer Henderson, CNN 1 hr ago
Three teachers who shared a summer classroom at a school in Arizona all contracted coronavirus last month, leaving one of them dead.
Kimberley Chavez Lopez Byrd, 61, died June 26, less than two weeks after she was hospitalized. The other two teachers -- Jena Martinez and Angela Skillings -- said they're still struggling with the effects of the virus that has killed nearly 135,000 people nationwide.
All three teachers wore masks and gloves, used hand sanitizer and socially distanced, but still got sick, according to school officials at the small community in the eastern part of the state.
Gregorich reiterated the three teachers were careful and still got Covid-19.
I think that's really the message or the concern that our staff has is we can't even keep our staff safe by themselves ... how are we going to keep 20 kids in a classroom safe? I just don't see how that's possible to do that," he said.
Byrd said reopening schools will put people in their small community at risk and he does not want to see other families go through a similar experience.
"Many grandparents, wind up being caretakers to kids when they get off school- mom and dad are working and a lot of grandparents are even raising their grandchildren. So, many of these grandparents fall into this high risk category of being older with more health issues," he said.
"They have no business opening the schools to try and get back to a traditional classroom ... let's get through this pandemic first before we try to get back to normal."
Police officers died of Corona so abolish all cops
People in the military died of corona so give away all the weapons.
Keep snorting that heroin doofy
This is a typical left wing response.
It's loaded with connections that do not exist or really don't matter.
People are getting pissed at anyone who sneezes even though allergies are very high in some areas.
If people don't want to send their kids to school....fine.
If teachers don't want to teach fine (but don't pay them).
I am sure we can find qualified replacements.
We all face it and it's really up to parents (but I forgot you left wingers are all disciples of Al "I what's best" Gore). Choice is only useful as long as people make the choice you want.
What is it that you think you actually know something and worse yet try to fool others into thinking the same.
Do you have an example of a school where it was spread ?
The age of COVID-19 patients has been dropping because younger people have been irresponsible when it comes to social distancing and hygiene.
Are you willing to test your expert public health theories on school kids?
California Democrats? This is the lead from your link: The conservative-leaning Orange County Board of Education inCalifornia on Monday evening voted in favor of guidelines that call for the reopening district schools in time for fall classes and said it would not require social distancing and mask-wearing for its students.California Democrats disagree with you.... in fact they say no social distancing either.Re-opening schools in the United States this fall, could double the infection and death rate in the country.
Orange County school Board of Education wants schools to reopen, no social distancing: report
Remote learning has been an 'utter failure,' board says
The estimate that 50% of cases may be spread by people who aren't showing symptoms is based on a model published by the National Academy of Sciences.except that, there are no recorded cases were that has happened, zeroKids can be asymptomatic spreaders.People over 60 are at high risk. That is the science.
Children are extremely low risk or not vectors. That is the science.
Democrats claim to be the party of science but this proves they dont care about science.
Maybe the old/sick school teachers and bureaucracy workers should stay home.
Even though the kids might not get sick, they still get infected and spread it to older people.
"Silent spreaders" could be behind half of COVID-19 cases, study finds
"The only answer" to asymptomatic and presymptomatic spreading of the coronavirus is to "expand our testing," Dr. Ron Elfenbein said.
(also presymptomatic )
I thought this was a OP about children. Your links and the model they reference does not address schools or children.
Further we do not need a computer model. There is enough experience with the actual illness that we can evaluate reality vs computer models.
The estimate that 50% of cases may be spread by people who aren't showing symptoms is based on a model published by the National Academy of Sciences.except that, there are no recorded cases were that has happened, zeroKids can be asymptomatic spreaders.People over 60 are at high risk. That is the science.
Children are extremely low risk or not vectors. That is the science.
Democrats claim to be the party of science but this proves they dont care about science.
Maybe the old/sick school teachers and bureaucracy workers should stay home.
Even though the kids might not get sick, they still get infected and spread it to older people.
"Silent spreaders" could be behind half of COVID-19 cases, study finds
"The only answer" to asymptomatic and presymptomatic spreading of the coronavirus is to "expand our testing," Dr. Ron Elfenbein said.
(also presymptomatic )
www.reuters.com
It is a simple as this... Countries with lower cases and positivity rates are not opening schools... They are listening to there experts and they have done way better than the Trump Admin at handling this...
www.theguardian.com
www.cbsnews.com
Blah blah blah from you as always.Schools being open equals normalcy and liberals can’t allow that
Schools opening doesn't equal "normalcy". It equals lunacy, to even contemplate it.
Let's be clear here. What used to be "normal" is gone - forever. This virus will always be with us, until there are both cures and vaccines. We're talking years.
So either you get with the program to shut this shit down HARD like we've done in the rest of the first world, or be prepared for YEARS of shut downs, outbreaks, and chaos. These are the ONLY choices you have.
Every other first world country - the ones with REAL leaders, has re-opened and re-opened safely. Only in the USA is the virus running unchecked. This is the abject failure of leadershipm but typical of the Trump Administration.
Notice how she repeated the same threat from the criminals behind this psyop?
"So either you get with the program to shut this shit down HARD like we've done in the rest of the first world, or be prepared for YEARS of shut downs, outbreaks, and chaos. These are the ONLY choices you have."
She's doing their work for them.
Btw, that reminds me. You probably heard about that Rockefeller Foundation paper that was written 10 years ago that "predicted" the exact same scenario we are experiencing today?
One of the things in that report was the trick of pointing to the countries (like China) who had a very totalitarian response, then saying, "See? Look how it worked for them, we need to do that over here!" (Never mind that the numbers are fraudulent and the whole thing is manipulated, the point is that they condition people to accept authoritarianism by claiming that's the only way to beat the boogeyman pandemic.)
Here's an excerpt from the report. I'll bold the pertinent parts.
Keep in mind this was written 10 years ago.
The pandemic blanketed the planet — though disproportionate numbers died in Africa, Southeast Asia, and Central America, where the virus spread like wildfire in the absence of official containment protocols. But even in developed countries, containment was a challenge. The United States's initial policy of "strongly discouraging" citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better — China in particular. The Chinese government's quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post- pandemic recovery.China's government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems — from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty— leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power.
And here's a video of journalist Harry Vox talking about this in 2014. It's very interesting, I think everyone should watch it:
Nice, you prove you can search your opinion and find an article you think agrees with you. The article is about study? The article is the propaganda claiming a study states something that you think is important. Yet the facts are not so important that you are willing to actually post the study?Explainer: Do children spread COVID-19? Risks as schools consider reopening
As countries begin to emerge from shutdowns imposed during the coronavirus pandemic, the issue of how the virus affects children and whether schools should be reopened is taking on heightened importance.
Researchers at the Institute for Virology at the Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin said that an analysis earlier this year of nearly 4,000 positive test samples found that the very young did not differ significantly from adults in viral load, leading them to caution against unlimited reopening of schools.
But a separate analysis of that study carried out by the University of Zurich, cautioned that the findings are difficult to interpret due to the statistical methods used and the small number of cases identified in children and adolescents.
Blah blah blah from you as always.Schools being open equals normalcy and liberals can’t allow that
Schools opening doesn't equal "normalcy". It equals lunacy, to even contemplate it.
Let's be clear here. What used to be "normal" is gone - forever. This virus will always be with us, until there are both cures and vaccines. We're talking years.
So either you get with the program to shut this shit down HARD like we've done in the rest of the first world, or be prepared for YEARS of shut downs, outbreaks, and chaos. These are the ONLY choices you have.
Every other first world country - the ones with REAL leaders, has re-opened and re-opened safely. Only in the USA is the virus running unchecked. This is the abject failure of leadershipm but typical of the Trump Administration.
Notice how she repeated the same threat from the criminals behind this psyop?
"So either you get with the program to shut this shit down HARD like we've done in the rest of the first world, or be prepared for YEARS of shut downs, outbreaks, and chaos. These are the ONLY choices you have."
She's doing their work for them.
Btw, that reminds me. You probably heard about that Rockefeller Foundation paper that was written 10 years ago that "predicted" the exact same scenario we are experiencing today?
One of the things in that report was the trick of pointing to the countries (like China) who had a very totalitarian response, then saying, "See? Look how it worked for them, we need to do that over here!" (Never mind that the numbers are fraudulent and the whole thing is manipulated, the point is that they condition people to accept authoritarianism by claiming that's the only way to beat the boogeyman pandemic.)
Here's an excerpt from the report. I'll bold the pertinent parts.
Keep in mind this was written 10 years ago.
The pandemic blanketed the planet — though disproportionate numbers died in Africa, Southeast Asia, and Central America, where the virus spread like wildfire in the absence of official containment protocols. But even in developed countries, containment was a challenge. The United States's initial policy of "strongly discouraging" citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better — China in particular. The Chinese government's quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post- pandemic recovery.China's government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems — from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty— leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power.
And here's a video of journalist Harry Vox talking about this in 2014. It's very interesting, I think everyone should watch it:
Wow it’s incredible that what he was describing in 2014 is happening now.its like he was in a time machine and went to now and came back to 2014,
Dangit, I wrote out a reply to you and pressed "post reply" and it didn't post and now it's not there and I have to re-type the whole thing.
Dangit, I wrote out a reply to you and pressed "post reply" and it didn't post and now it's not there and I have to re-type the whole thing.
Nice, you prove you can search your opinion and find an article you think agrees with you. The article is about study? The article is the propaganda claiming a study states something that you think is important. Yet the facts are not so important that you are willing to actually post the study?Explainer: Do children spread COVID-19? Risks as schools consider reopening
As countries begin to emerge from shutdowns imposed during the coronavirus pandemic, the issue of how the virus affects children and whether schools should be reopened is taking on heightened importance.
Researchers at the Institute for Virology at the Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin said that an analysis earlier this year of nearly 4,000 positive test samples found that the very young did not differ significantly from adults in viral load, leading them to caution against unlimited reopening of schools.
I say post the study, you think it contains facts, you think rueters opinion is accurate, then you should have no problem quoting directly from the study that shows children transmit covid-19.
The part you quoted is very vague. The part you quoted does not state how many children get sick. The part you quoted says nothing about the children being vectors for covid-19
So, quote the studies, not an article dictating what we are to "believe"!
Meanwhile, choke on this, from your article, which is part of the quote you cherry picked, something you selectively left out to give us a false impression that your opinion is based on any facts.
But a separate analysis of that study carried out by the University of Zurich, cautioned that the findings are difficult to interpret due to the statistical methods used and the small number of cases identified in children and adolescents.
Yeah....they need bodies in their organized protests.Re-opening schools in the United States this fall, could double the infection and death rate in the country.
Apparently no kids came down with the disease. When do the medical geniuses who want to deprive kids of an education think we should reopen the schools?
It is a simple as this... Countries with lower cases and positivity rates are not opening schools... They are listening to there experts and they have done way better than the Trump Admin at handling this...
I know this is hurtful but listen to the experts in other countries as the White House has been consistently wrong unless coming from Fauci or Brix.... Just look at what Europe is doing as a lead, it used to be the US in that position but that is the new normality for the moment...
Be Safe.
What if we never get a vaccine? What do you think the plan going forward would be?
Herd immunity could solve the problem on its own, we don't know yet. I don't think never going back to school is an issue. But one full year of virtual school isn't the end of the world either.
What about those kids who are NOT getting that instruction because they have no computer or internet access?
What did they do for internet access?Apparently no kids came down with the disease. When do the medical geniuses who want to deprive kids of an education think we should reopen the schools?
It is a simple as this... Countries with lower cases and positivity rates are not opening schools... They are listening to there experts and they have done way better than the Trump Admin at handling this...
I know this is hurtful but listen to the experts in other countries as the White House has been consistently wrong unless coming from Fauci or Brix.... Just look at what Europe is doing as a lead, it used to be the US in that position but that is the new normality for the moment...
Be Safe.
What if we never get a vaccine? What do you think the plan going forward would be?
Herd immunity could solve the problem on its own, we don't know yet. I don't think never going back to school is an issue. But one full year of virtual school isn't the end of the world either.
What about those kids who are NOT getting that instruction because they have no computer or internet access?
This past quarter every student needing a laptop was given one from the district. Nobody went without (some kids did have to share with siblings).
What did they do for internet access?Apparently no kids came down with the disease. When do the medical geniuses who want to deprive kids of an education think we should reopen the schools?
It is a simple as this... Countries with lower cases and positivity rates are not opening schools... They are listening to there experts and they have done way better than the Trump Admin at handling this...
I know this is hurtful but listen to the experts in other countries as the White House has been consistently wrong unless coming from Fauci or Brix.... Just look at what Europe is doing as a lead, it used to be the US in that position but that is the new normality for the moment...
Be Safe.
What if we never get a vaccine? What do you think the plan going forward would be?
Herd immunity could solve the problem on its own, we don't know yet. I don't think never going back to school is an issue. But one full year of virtual school isn't the end of the world either.
What about those kids who are NOT getting that instruction because they have no computer or internet access?
This past quarter every student needing a laptop was given one from the district. Nobody went without (some kids did have to share with siblings).
Is your district like every school district in the nation?
A few years ago, my district gave every student a laptop to use in class and at home. They forgot it was a rural school district and few had internet access at home. Also, the school's wifi capability was so poor, about one classroom of students could use their laptops at one time out of high school of 600. The laptops spent more time getting broken screens repaired than anything else. I even had my personal laptop screen break despite being in a neoprene sleeve and a padded bag.
I never used them for any purpose other than to weigh down student's backpacks. They got great exercise hauling them from class to class.
The internet service providers provided the internet. My wife is a tech for Spectrum. If there was no infrastructure already in place they did not.What did they do for internet access?Apparently no kids came down with the disease. When do the medical geniuses who want to deprive kids of an education think we should reopen the schools?
It is a simple as this... Countries with lower cases and positivity rates are not opening schools... They are listening to there experts and they have done way better than the Trump Admin at handling this...
I know this is hurtful but listen to the experts in other countries as the White House has been consistently wrong unless coming from Fauci or Brix.... Just look at what Europe is doing as a lead, it used to be the US in that position but that is the new normality for the moment...
Be Safe.
What if we never get a vaccine? What do you think the plan going forward would be?
Herd immunity could solve the problem on its own, we don't know yet. I don't think never going back to school is an issue. But one full year of virtual school isn't the end of the world either.
What about those kids who are NOT getting that instruction because they have no computer or internet access?
This past quarter every student needing a laptop was given one from the district. Nobody went without (some kids did have to share with siblings).
Is your district like every school district in the nation?
A few years ago, my district gave every student a laptop to use in class and at home. They forgot it was a rural school district and few had internet access at home. Also, the school's wifi capability was so poor, about one classroom of students could use their laptops at one time out of high school of 600. The laptops spent more time getting broken screens repaired than anything else. I even had my personal laptop screen break despite being in a neoprene sleeve and a padded bag.
I never used them for any purpose other than to weigh down student's backpacks. They got great exercise hauling them from class to class.
Internet access was provided free of charge to families needing it until June 1st
No but I can't speak about other districts
My district isn't rural, so again these issues that certainly do exist elsewhere don't here.
Repetitive name calling is surrender. Stop waving your white flag now please.'Faked into one'?...Meticulous detail on a non issue does not make it into an issue even if it has been faked into one.
You're an idiot.
A dangerous idiot.
There might actually exist, a handful of fellow retards whom you could influence to not take the pandemic seriously, and putting them (and their contacts) at-risk.
Now that I stop to think of it, one of your kind holds considerable political power... an Orange Idiot... and that fool has cost America many hundreds of lives.
Dangerous idiots.
The internet service providers provided the internet. My wife is a tech for Spectrum. If there was no infrastructure already in place they did not.What did they do for internet access?Apparently no kids came down with the disease. When do the medical geniuses who want to deprive kids of an education think we should reopen the schools?
It is a simple as this... Countries with lower cases and positivity rates are not opening schools... They are listening to there experts and they have done way better than the Trump Admin at handling this...
I know this is hurtful but listen to the experts in other countries as the White House has been consistently wrong unless coming from Fauci or Brix.... Just look at what Europe is doing as a lead, it used to be the US in that position but that is the new normality for the moment...
Be Safe.
What if we never get a vaccine? What do you think the plan going forward would be?
Herd immunity could solve the problem on its own, we don't know yet. I don't think never going back to school is an issue. But one full year of virtual school isn't the end of the world either.
What about those kids who are NOT getting that instruction because they have no computer or internet access?
This past quarter every student needing a laptop was given one from the district. Nobody went without (some kids did have to share with siblings).
Is your district like every school district in the nation?
A few years ago, my district gave every student a laptop to use in class and at home. They forgot it was a rural school district and few had internet access at home. Also, the school's wifi capability was so poor, about one classroom of students could use their laptops at one time out of high school of 600. The laptops spent more time getting broken screens repaired than anything else. I even had my personal laptop screen break despite being in a neoprene sleeve and a padded bag.
I never used them for any purpose other than to weigh down student's backpacks. They got great exercise hauling them from class to class.
Internet access was provided free of charge to families needing it until June 1st
No but I can't speak about other districts
My district isn't rural, so again these issues that certainly do exist elsewhere don't here.
