Why Replace DEI With MEI When 'Merit' Has Been a CONDITION of Federal Employment Per the 'Merit Systems Protection Board' (MSPB) Since 1978?

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

meaningless

You're not even supposed to be commenting on my threads.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Interesting.

I applied for and was hired by the U.S. Department of Defense in 1975.

Part of the application process was taking the Professional and Administrative Career Exam - commonly referred to as the "PACE Test." At the time, if you didn't score at least 80 (percentile), you had no chance of being hired. (I scored over 100 because I got five points "Veterans' Preference" on top of a score in the high 90's). To my advantage, having a college degree made no difference in one's score (I did not have a degree at the time).

When Jimmy Carter was President, somebody whispered in his ear that "Negroes are being 'systematically' excluded from these desirable government jobs because their scores on the PACE Test are...dreadful." This was back in the day when people actually took it seriously that such tests could be "culturally biased," and that was the reason for Blacks' poor scores. Also, it was a time when "equal opportunity" was considered a desirable end - a VERY long time ago.

So Jimmy Carter "cancelled" the PACE Test, and directed the Office of Personnel Management to devise a new test, with no cultural bias, such that Blacks would achieve high scores in proportion with their percentage of the general population.

Hold the laughter, please.

Of course, such a test did not exist, could not exist, and was never produced by OPM. There has been no testing requirement for Federal "professional and administrative" jobs since then. It is the classic government bureaucrat's response to the conundrum when you want to ask a question but know that the answer will be unacceptable; don't ask the question [Don't give the test].

Bottom line: The Feds CANNOT hire or promote on the basis of "merit," because to do so would result in only microscopic percentages of Black and Hispanic hires and promotions, a condition that is anathema to government folks and Democrats who actually control the bureaucracy.

Yeah and they claimed that same bullshit about the Tuskegee Airmen and it was no more true then than now.

You said you're attorney, are you in private practice?

 

[BackAgain]

Merit-based hiring & promotion is a WRITTEN policy at the federal government level.

In other words, the hiring standards have ALWAYS been based on merit contrary to what you all have been led to believe. So all of these federal employees that you all have been crying about having been hired due to DEI policies is incorrect. They were hired based on the same merit-based standards as everyone else hired into the positions they hold/held

If you had read the OP you would have seen that it explains this.

I see you have studiously missed the point.

DEI shit absolutely undercuts merit hiring and promotion.

Sorry you can’t see it. But that’s a you problem.

 

[BackAgain]

You're not even supposed to be commenting on my threads.

Why not?

 

[BackAgain]

White racists feel entitled to ALL of the jobs except the most menial that they don't want to do. And some of them will do things to prevent us from having even those.

 

[BackAgain]

I really think white women should stop commenting in the negative about a policy that has helped them more than anyone.

Second, you seem to miss this part to run your mouth:

Since the passage of the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA), federal hiring and promotion practices have been grounded in a system that emphasizes merit. This means that qualifications, skills, and performance are the decisive factors in determining who is hired or promoted within the federal government. The Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB), which oversees these processes, exists to ensure adherence to these principles, safeguarding federal employees from arbitrary, politically motivated, or discriminatory actions.

It says “selection and advancement should be determined solely on the basis of relative ability, knowledge, and skills, after fair and open competition which assures that all receive equal opportunity.”

But DEI is not about equal opportunity to apply. It is instead about seeking diversity IN HIRING. That is very often very much at odds with the aspiration to hire on merit.

DEI is, thankfully, coming to an end soon.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It says “selection and advancement should be determined solely on the basis of relative ability, knowledge, and skills, after fair and open competition which assures that all receive equal opportunity.”

But DEI is not about equal opportunity to apply. It is instead about seeking diversity IN HIRING. That is very often very much at odds with the aspiration to hire on merit.

If this is true then show me.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Why not?

She knows why.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I see nothing wrong with requiring federal employees to come into the office every day and work a full week. The ones I know “working” from home are scamming the taxpayers.

And it’s a much better idea than laying off employees altogether: those who want to keep their jobs have to come to the office, and others will be let go.

These type of things have to happen in order to right-size the government and get rid of the redundancy and abuse.

Musk et al have advertised that they're doing it for the purpose of incentivizing half of the workforce to quit their jobs so they don't to pay severance or unemployment to those discharged workers.

 

[irosie91]

Musk et al have advertised that they're doing it for the purpose of incentivizing half of the workforce to quit their jobs so they don't to pay severance or unemployment to those discharged workers.

Musk et al have advertised that they're doing it for the purpose of incentivizing half of the workforce to quit their jobs so they don't to pay severance or unemployment to those discharged workers.

does anyone know what "they" are doing to encourage people to
quit their jobs? does anyone know who "they" are?

 

[Picaro]

So according to your standards TRUMP was more qualified than Harris because he was POTUS...

Had four more years of experience than she did.

 

[Frankenstein]

White racists feel entitled to ALL of the jobs except the most menial that they don't want to do. And some of them will do things to prevent us from having even those.

That is the biggest lie of all, as long as a person works hard I do not care what color they are, quit being a victim!

 

[Lisa558]

The only way you can attempt to prevail in an argument is to change the subject to one in which you feel you have the advantage.

The topic is merit-based hiring and promotion within the federal government. You know, all those Black people you complain about driving around in nice cars because they have all those good government jobs in the DC metropolitan area and surroundings.

Stay on topic or refrain from responding.

What you call “changing the subject” is what I call “bringing up facts that refute your stance.”

And despite your insistence that I complain about black people driving around in nice cars because they have those cushy government jobs, I am complaining that in the majority of cases, a better-qualified white was passed over to give the job to a black.

I am in favor of choosing the best-qualified candidate regardless of race.

 

[Lisa558]

She knows why.

Why? Was she told not to respond to you?

 

[BackAgain]

Merit-based hiring & promotion is a WRITTEN policy at the federal government level.

In other words, the hiring standards have ALWAYS been based on merit contrary to what you all have been led to believe. So all of these federal employees that you all have been crying about having been hired due to DEI policies is incorrect. They were hired based on the same merit-based standards as everyone else hired into the positions they hold/held

If you had read the OP you would have seen that it explains this.

On paper. Sure. But then along came DEI.
So, now. Let us not be gullible.

 

[WEATHER53]

That protects the system itself and not the reality of merit reward
You news vine is poison ivy

 

[BackAgain]

If this is true then show me.

I provided the link to the quote.

What else do you think I need to show you?

 

[BackAgain]

She knows why.

Ah. Perhaps some mod decree?

 

[Tyrion234]

So according to my standards a convicted felon waiting for sentencing doesn't get a job.

That’s like 93% of the people you associate with

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

What’s omitted is that the qualifying standards were reduced in 1978 making it easier for anyone to qualify in order to accommodate a more diverse field, thereby justifying selection based on race. It undermines true merit.
Prior to 1978, the USPS, for example, would only hire those who scored between 80% and 90% on the clerk/carrier exam in order to justify hiring more blacks. Two brothers in my neighborhood took the test together in 1975. One scored 98% the other 85%. Guess which one was hired.