Why not electric tractors?

[Old Rocks]

So scale up the requirements for those lithium batteries and get back to me when you realize lithium batteries will never replace all ICE. And I'm not even factoring in all of the environmental or health and safety aspects.

But hey, if you are so dead set against having batteries with on board fossil fuel powered generators, so be it.

Battery tech is about where gasoline engine tech was in 1920. But it is moving decades faster than engine tech did. Now there are many different chemistries for batteries, with many different advantages for various niches in the energy field. An example is the rust battery in Maine.

 

[Rambunctious]

Disc seven rows... plug it in.... the next day disc seven more and plug it in...

 

[JohnDB]

A D-9 Cat can easily pull a harrow.
"Lumina, a startup founded by 25-year-old entrepreneur Ahmed Shubber, unveiled its first electric bulldozer, the ML6 Moonlander.

The 32-ton prototype, assembled in the UK from nearly 200 suppliers, matches the footprint of a Caterpillar D6 but delivers the power of a D9.
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It operates for up to 10 hours and recharges to full in 75 minutes using a 300-kilowatt charging station. Inspired by Tesla and Waymo, Lumina is developing both hardware and software in-house to enable future autonomous capabilities."

MSN

And the price of this tractor?

 

[JohnDB]

Also..
Why target farm tractors?

Less than 5% of the population is involved with farming. They use such an insignificant amount of fuel to begin with but feed huge numbers of people and are so heavily regulated for the salaries they earn every year....totally unworth the lifestyle. It's literally pennies vx work.

Leave the farmers alone.

Try dealing with shipping cargo first....then maybe airplanes... then we will still leave the farmer alone. Let them come to you....don't force crap into our food supply.

 

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Battery tech is about where gasoline engine tech was in 1920. But it is moving decades faster than engine tech did. Now there are many different chemistries for batteries, with many different advantages for various niches in the energy field. An example is the rust battery in Maine.

Good luck with that.

 

[JohnDB]

Battery tech is about where gasoline engine tech was in 1920. But it is moving decades faster than engine tech did. Now there are many different chemistries for batteries, with many different advantages for various niches in the energy field. An example is the rust battery in Maine.

Battery tech is not moving forward that fast.
It still requires exotic ingredients.
Even the latest liquid sodium batteries have issues and they have the highest KWH/lb of any battery in existence. (We can produce enough liquid sodium at scale)

But the refining is worse than petroleum.

The rust battery is still crappy....doesnt work and still requires rare earth elements that are expensive.

But we can leave the farmer alone....

 

[Crepitus]

I think you should buy two!!!!

I'm not a farmer.

Are you?

 

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I'm not a farmer.

Are you?

No, but don't let that stop you. Show your support for EV's!!!!

 

[Crepitus]

No, but don't let that stop you. Show your support for EV's!!!!

YOu go ahead, I'll catch up later.

 

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YOu go ahead, I'll catch up later.

I'm not an EV cheerleader.

 

[Crepitus]

I'm not an EV cheerleader.

Am I?

 

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Am I?

I must have confused you with some other idiot who is always defending EV's.

 

[Crepitus]

I must have confused you with some other idiot who is always defending EV's.

I'm mostly indifferent to EVs. If you want one, buy it. If you don't, then don't. Problem solved.

 

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I'm mostly indifferent to EVs. If you want one, buy it. If you don't, then don't. Problem solved.

I want as many idiots as possible to buy EV's so they can experience the predictable surprises of EV ownership. There's really no better teacher than experience.

 

[Old Rocks]

Also..
Why target farm tractors?

Less than 5% of the population is involved with farming. They use such an insignificant amount of fuel to begin with but feed huge numbers of people and are so heavily regulated for the salaries they earn every year....totally unworth the lifestyle. It's literally pennies vx work.

Leave the farmers alone.

Try dealing with shipping cargo first....then maybe airplanes... then we will still leave the farmer alone. Let them come to you....don't force crap into our food supply.

LOL Well, seems that a lot of people are not standing in the horse apples by the side of the road yelling "Get a horse". LOL

MSN

 

[Crepitus]

I want as many idiots as possible to buy EV's so they can experience the predictable surprises of EV ownership. There's really no better teacher than experience.

Some people love their EVs.

 

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Some people love their EVs.

Give it time.

 

[Old Rocks]

I want as many idiots as possible to buy EV's so they can experience the predictable surprises of EV ownership. There's really no better teacher than experience.

Hmmmmmmmm...................

In 2024, the electric vehicle (EV) market in the US reached 1.56 million EV sales and a 10% sales share of all light-duty vehicles. A third of automakers offered at least nine EV models, with most growth in model availability occurring in 2021 and 20221. Combined sales of hybrid vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles, and battery electric vehicles (BEVs) increased from 19.1% to 21.2% of total new light-duty vehicle sales2. The demographic landscape of EV ownership is evolving, with 42% of EV owners aged 30-44 and a notable rise in ownership among Americans with household incomes under $99,9993. Battery electric vehicle sales are more common in the luxury vehicle market4. Growth in electric car sales slowed down significantly in 2024, increasing by just 10% compared to 40% in 20235.

Seems a lot of people don't think as you do.

 

[Crepitus]

Give it time.

Time will see more and more of them. Change is inevitable.

 

[ding]

Hmmmmmmmm...................

In 2024, the electric vehicle (EV) market in the US reached 1.56 million EV sales and a 10% sales share of all light-duty vehicles. A third of automakers offered at least nine EV models, with most growth in model availability occurring in 2021 and 20221. Combined sales of hybrid vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles, and battery electric vehicles (BEVs) increased from 19.1% to 21.2% of total new light-duty vehicle sales2. The demographic landscape of EV ownership is evolving, with 42% of EV owners aged 30-44 and a notable rise in ownership among Americans with household incomes under $99,9993. Battery electric vehicle sales are more common in the luxury vehicle market4. Growth in electric car sales slowed down significantly in 2024, increasing by just 10% compared to 40% in 20235.

Seems a lot of people don't think as you do.

Give it time.