Why low income whites usually vote for Trump

[norwegen]

No it creats jobs for them

Of course it does. When the wealthy invest their capital on anything other than politicians, it creates opportunity for others.

 

[hadit]

Or entry level

Or fallen on hard times. Or fallen ill. Or simply don't need it.

There are many reasons for not having a high income.

 

[norwegen]

Or fallen on hard times. Or fallen ill. Or simply don't need it.

There are many reasons for not having a high income.

If everyone had a high income, no one would have a high income.

 

[Hafar1014]

Or fallen on hard times. Or fallen ill. Or simply don't need it.

There are many reasons for not having a high income.

Only as long as you done stay that way

 

[Marener]

This is hilarious.

The right wing answer to affordability problems is to tell Americans to just lower their standard of living.

 

[BrokeLoser]

This is hilarious.

The right wing answer to affordability problems is to tell Americans to just lower their standard of living.

That’s not true at all. The answer is the same as it’s always been…Send ALL filthy thirdworlders home to their disgusting shitholes of origin so painters can make a career wage which will drive all wages up across the employment spectrum.

 

[hadit]

This is hilarious.

The right wing answer to affordability problems is to tell Americans to just lower their standard of living.

Can you quote somebody who said that?

 

[Marener]

That’s not true at all. The answer is the same as it’s always been…Send ALL filthy thirdworlders home to their disgusting shitholes of origin so painters can make a career wage which will drive all wages up across the employment spectrum.

Read the posts in the thread. They call Americans spoiled.

 

[Hellokitty]

The closest approximation to democratic socialism that works is Scandinavian Social Democracy. Scandinavian countries have universal health care and generous pensions.

And they learned that unregulated high immigration wasn't smart...

 

[Blaster]

The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

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Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

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Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

I'm a high income white man that voted for Trump.

 

[Lisa558]

Read the posts in the thread. They call Americans spoiled.

Nobody said that.

We are saying that one doesn’t have to have a McMansion and go to Aspen every winter to be middle class.

 

[Marener]

Nobody said that.

We are saying that one doesn’t have to have a McMansion and go to Aspen every winter to be middle class.

You’re arguing against a fabrication.

Middle class Americans aren’t expecting ski trips in Aspen.

And you’re definitely implying that Americans are spoiled. It’s the clear conclusion from what you’re saying.

 

[Lisa558]

You’re arguing against a fabrication.

Middle class Americans aren’t expecting ski trips in Aspen.

And you’re definitely implying that Americans are spoiled. It’s the clear conclusion from what you’re saying.

I’m saying that leftists have a deluded idea of what middle-class life has always been.

if a family wants a McMansion and expensive vacations, I guess the wife has to work. If they are OK with the way the middle class always lived until recently, then she can stay home with the kids.

 

[Marener]

I’m saying that leftists have a deluded idea of what middle-class life has always been.

if a family wants a McMansion and expensive vacations, I guess the wife has to work. If they are OK with the way the middle class always lived until recently, then she can stay home with the kids.

You persistently demonstrate that you really don’t know what other people, especially “leftist” think.

They’re not looking for “McMansions”. Median age of first time home purchase is now 38. They’re looking for any house.

 

[Lisa558]

You persistently demonstrate that you really don’t know what other people, especially “leftist” think.

They’re not looking for “McMansions”. Median age of first time home purchase is now 38. They’re looking for any house.

That’s because their expectations have gotten so demanding that builders aren’t building 1100 sq ft, one bathroom houses, and they don’t want to buy a small 1950 bungalow.

 

[Marener]

That’s because their expectations have gotten so demanding that builders aren’t building 1100 sq ft, one bathroom houses, and they don’t want to buy a small 1950 bungalow.

Builders aren’t building 1100 sq feet one bathroom houses because it’s not as profitable.

Especially after you get through the hassle of high material costs and labor shortages.

 

[Woodznutz]

Low income = not very bright.

Or entry level.

 

[Woodznutz]

Builders aren’t building 1100 sq feet one bathroom houses because it’s not as profitable.

Especially after you get through the hassle of high material costs and labor shortages.

That's why the government should build affordable housing, using prison labor.

 

[Lisa558]

Builders aren’t building 1100 sq feet one bathroom houses because it’s not as profitable.

Especially after you get through the hassle of high material costs and labor shortages.

Well if they stopped building so many large, expensive homes that people can’t afford, then they could sell the smaller homes.

When I was growing up, there were no 2500 sf homes that I ever saw. Those were for the rich people. The middle class people lived in the 1100 sf homes, and there was nothing wrong with that.

 

[Woodznutz]

Several of my friends bought or rented homes in small towns and commuted to work, some up to 50 miles one way. They love it.