Why low income whites usually vote for Trump

No hero's rushing in to save us, Until we demand that both party's start working for US the majority.
And stop working for self's or party power, We the average American will continue to lose.
Only time will tell what We will get from this hate fest.
 
No hero's rushing in to save us, Until we demand that both party's start working for US the majority.
And stop working for self's or party power, We the average American will continue to lose.
Only time will tell what We will get from this hate fest.
Well Bullshyte!

Until you and many other citizens get off your lazy arse and involved in the party of your choice and start to do something active to support and advance your cause and concerns, you will be stuck with what "they" give you.

Citizen involvement is more than just voting every couple of years.

It is attending meetings, expressing your concerns and desires, then getting out and door-belling for your candidates and issues.

Unless you actively DO SOMETHING for your Party, Cause, Candidate, you will be the subject of the will and actions of others.
No one will listen or do what you want unless YOU, YOURSELF, get off your Butt, get involved, join in, and 'Do Something'!

Don't expect others to do for you if you can't/won't do for yourself. !!! :rolleyes:
 
That graph is from the 2016 election. That was over 8 years ago.

Look at who the who the wealthy voted for in the last election and then re-evaluate whatever stupid point you were trying to make.
Why didn’t you link to exit polls from 2024?
 
No hero's rushing in to save us, Until we demand that both party's start working for US the majority.
Ray Charles can see that one party is working for Mexico’s people and one is working for good real core Americans…Have you been under a rock?
 
Why didn’t you link to exit polls from 2024?

Because I figured you would recognize that your graph is way out-dated, have enough curiosity and common sense to figure out how to ******* Google something, and then re-evaluate the dumb point you were trying to make.

Sorry for over-estimating you. I’ll make it nice and simple for you.



 
The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

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Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

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Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.
Lower-income Whites vote for Trump because they're tired of being low-balled in the labor marketplace by Illegal Aliens,

The sooner these 20,000,000
INVADERS are ejected from US soil the better for America and Americans.
 
Lower-income Whites vote for Trump because they're tired of being low-balled in the labor marketplace by Illegal Aliens,

The sooner these 20,000,000
INVADERS are ejected from US soil the better for America and Americans.
What you say is true. Lower income whites would also benefit by ending affirmative action. Affirmative action does not create opportunities. It takes them from qualified whites and gives them to unqualified blacks.

It remains true that lower income whites do not benefit from cuts in Medicaid and tax cuts for the rich. Trump's high tariffs raise prices for them.
 
Yet these past half-dozen decades have seen billion$ pored in efforts to "educate" them and results keep declining.

As saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."

Why are the "inner city poor" youths reluctant to learn any real skills ???
/----/ Here is a firsthand report on inner city kids and education.

I used to teach in a black inner city school. Their issues are their own fault and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.​

I’ve been a high school science teacher for a little under 10 years. I’ve primarily worked at poor urban schools with high Hispanic immigrant populations and I’ve loved most of my career. Yeah, some low points and difficult times but that’s everyone right?

The year I taught at a black inner city school almost made me leave the profession entirely.

Class was basically optional. Kids would walk in or out constantly, if they showed up at all. Any attempts to enforce any kind of rules about tardiness and truancy was usually met with “**** you nigga”. And even if they did show up, they were rowdy and off task constantly. Very little education took place in that room. Or any of them rooms really. For example, one girl pulled out her phone, turned on some music, jumped on her desk and started dancing on top of the desk. I tried to get her down but she kept telling me “**** you” over and over

I tried talking to my AP and my principal about what to do because I had never experienced anything like this. And they told me something I was going to hear repeatedly throughout the year. “It’s just their culture. You have to respect that.”

For the full story, here is the link.
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/----/ Here is a firsthand report on inner city kids and education.

I used to teach in a black inner city school. Their issues are their own fault and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.​

I’ve been a high school science teacher for a little under 10 years. I’ve primarily worked at poor urban schools with high Hispanic immigrant populations and I’ve loved most of my career. Yeah, some low points and difficult times but that’s everyone right?

The year I taught at a black inner city school almost made me leave the profession entirely.

Class was basically optional. Kids would walk in or out constantly, if they showed up at all. Any attempts to enforce any kind of rules about tardiness and truancy was usually met with “**** you nigga”. And even if they did show up, they were rowdy and off task constantly. Very little education took place in that room. Or any of them rooms really. For example, one girl pulled out her phone, turned on some music, jumped on her desk and started dancing on top of the desk. I tried to get her down but she kept telling me “**** you” over and over

I tried talking to my AP and my principal about what to do because I had never experienced anything like this. And they told me something I was going to hear repeatedly throughout the year. “It’s just their culture. You have to respect that.”

For the full story, here is the link.
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A friend of mine in high school had the same experience "trying to teach," as he put it in a black slum school. In high school he did not hate blacks. Now he does. I wish JoeB131 was around. He is always making excuses for those people. All blacks are not like that, but underclass blacks of the black ghetto usually are.

What do you think we should do with those people, Cellblock2429? I have a few ideas, if you are interested,
 
What you say is true. Lower income whites would also benefit by ending affirmative action. Affirmative action does not create opportunities. It takes them from qualified whites and gives them to unqualified blacks.

It remains true that lower income whites do not benefit from cuts in Medicaid and tax cuts for the rich. Trump's high tariffs raise prices for them.
Yep... a mixed bag... win some... lose some... I will watch with curiosity to see who is impacted most by Medicaid cuts.
 
LOL @ 'wealth-creation experience'.
Do you really think your readers or people in general are THAT dumb?
Why would anyone vote for capitalistic predator? Like, what good does do to anyone looking up to some cheaty-faced suit well-versed in abusing loopholes in some tax code or regulations to rob the public?
Yeah, it's literally the opposite of what you say - smart, caring and somewhat selfless people are what are needed for government that answers to working people (who are the real creators of public's wealth), not some oligarchic fraudsters. And yes, those 'earning' their wealth through lying ads, financial manipulations and such, are the actual parasite in this case.
This is so fuckin' racist.
 
All poor people think they’d benefit from socialism…(ask Venenzuelans)
The systems of great nations aren’t built around poor people.
Truman 2.webp
 
Thank you for demonstrating how the USA education system continues to fail in teaching the nation's youth essential knowledge to live and support themselves in society, without being a parasitic drain (which you obviously are.)

Wealth is 'Goods and/or Services' that have Market Value. Meaning others are willing to trade their 'goods and/or services' for your offered 'goods and/or services'.

Such started back in the dawn of pre-history when the guy expert at chipping flint into sharp edges and points would trade such to get some chunks of meat off the mastodon the hunters killed, cut, skinned and brought back for the tribe to eat, using that flint he chipped. This is also know as basic barter. Centuries(millennia) later it would evolve into systems of money to simplify the exchange process(trade).

My experience over the years/decades has shown me that most people, here on this forum, or in the general population are far smarter and less DUMB than you are.

Why would anyone vote for a socialistic predator? What good does a near do-well who couldn't earn their keep, turning to be a public wealth plunderer, a robber of the public funds, do that benefits the people, those who elected him/her ???

The family that owns their own dairy farm, is working 7 days a week, 365 days a year to tend and milk their cows, providing food(goods) to the market are a typical small business example of capitalism.

The Asian immigrant family that worked two plus jobs to save the money needed to open their own Asian Market grocery store are capitalists. As their business grew they could hire workers providing them jobs.

The gal who has a tractor truck being bought on payments, hauling freight cross country, getting paid by the mile driven, hoping to make a profit after covering the truck payment and expenses, is another "evil" Capitalist.

The guy who spent several years learning the construction trade making houses and small business buildings, having now become a contractor who hires and directs his workforce (provider of jobs) is another form of capitalist.

The majority of free enterprise, wealth creating capitalists are the small business people who take the risks of failure(could go bankrupt), provide jobs, and help to build wealth and this country, are the ones you seem clueless about. And I'd wager you lack the guts and gumption to do what they have risked and done.

Even those "oligarchic fraudsters" as you call them, are mostly making sure that the corporation stays in business, makes a profit, to return dividends to the stock holders, as well as increase the value of those stock shares. Which BTW, are shares often held by IRAs, 401Ks, and pensions which many workers rely upon for their retirement.

"The working people" can only do their part of creating wealth if the "capitalists" own businesses that can provide the jobs to the workers. It's know as a symbiotic relationship. Another thing it appears your "education" failed to teach you.

I've been involved in the political process for a couple decades now, seeing the under-laying of both sides/parties. While your comment; "smart, caring and somewhat selfless people are what are needed for government" is long known, those who step forward are often far from that. Too many are just as human as you or I, and there are many who are actually best skilled as "those 'earning' their wealth through lying ads, financial manipulations and such, are the actual parasite in this case". If they were better suited and skilled in "for profit enterprise" they would be doing that. Admittedly I've met a few who were good a free enterprise and then wanted to use their experience and gain as a springboard to serve the public.

Look up the wiki page for Clinton, Obama, and Biden and you will see that right out of college they went into guv'mint work, hired and/or elected office. Positions where the pay came from taxpayers and not from 'for profit free enterprises' that they worked in or owned/managed. That's why such can be called parasites since their careers are built upon wealth redistribution, not wealth creation. (Yeah, some parasites can be "good", check your gut biome, but others aren't good.)
Hilarious that you still think in 2025 anyone actually believes oligarchic fairy-tales about 'bootstraps'.
'risks' LMAO, that's the funniest way to talk about rigging game Oopsie, looks like you failed again, wanna take some credit from MY bank?
'provide jobs' yikes, talk about self-aggrandizing, I mean did slaver tell that to their slaves, how they care and provide for them, too?
Are those welfare kings and queens here in the rooms with us? How did the raid you fridge today? I mean, how silly you have to be to believe that take?
The middlemen are getting less and less relevant, soon noone would care about anything they say. People's solidarity is quite enough to finally cut out the class of leeches, aka 'owners'. The only reason unemployment exists at such insane levels, is manipulation. There was close to zero unemployment in soviet block.
 
/---/ Funny how libtards turn to a guy who nuked women and children --- and did it twice.
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What Truman said about the way Republicans castigate every effort to help people who are not rich as "socialists" is still true.

When Henry Ford I opened his first assembly line he paid twice the going rate for factory work. He explained his behavior by saying, "I want my workers to be able to afford the cars they build."

Henry Ford's rival factory workers did not like this, because it pressured them to raise wages. Consequently, they called Ford a socialist.
 
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He's their living Jesus. He gives them hope. They think he can cure their misery.

I have no idea how. But he gives them hope. This guy. Of all people.
Odd you got a sense of hope from the Biden corpse.

You got hope from a snarling, grunting character appearing in tbe Walking Dead
 
And yet, despite Truman's thinking on the subject, true Socialism stereotypically ruins a country and its people suffer.

We (he American People) will not be inflicting that upon ourselves anytime soon.
The closest approximation to socialism that works is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By criteria I value it works better than American capitalism.
 
FEEEEEEEEELINGS
Nothing but feelz.
Communist GARBAGE.
:rolleyes:
It is true that extensions of the public sector that have benefited Americans who are not rich, which are popular as a result, have been condemned by reactionaries as "socialism," or even "Communism." Your post is evidence of this.
 
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