Why It Is BETTER For Trump to Blow Off Ryan and His Neocon Supporters

JimBowie1958

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Trump got to the nomination by having a divided opposition, and often that opposition was itself divided along demographic and ideological groupings as well.

So it is supposed to be better for Trump in the general election if he faces Hillary one-on-one? Why? It has not been how he has won up to now, why expect it to be his best approach in the general?

There is merit to allowing the neocon wing of the GOP to split off and form a third p arty.
1. It is the basis for a ban on these goons ever returning to the party leadership. Simply disallow any who have failed to support the GOP Presidential candidate from ever holding GOP office again. This amounts to the neocons performing a self purge.

2. It helps Trump to win the election by giving a drain for anti-Trump voters to vote for a hopeless third party while Trump draws on Sanders supporters as a protest against Hillary. In a three way race this is solid strategy.

3. Trump would be staking out the true just right of center middle ground where most Americans are in this country and give him the best political base to campaign from. This also would be seen as giving him more authenticity for White Working Dems and independents.

Trump should continue to campaign the same way he did to get the GOP nomination; divide and conquer.
 
Trump would lose his Trumpeteers if he tried to sidle up to the establishment losers......let them offer to support him if they want a place in the sun...after all, he won the nomination for being the 'outsider'.....better to blow them off and let them twist in the wind....
 
Trump can let the neo-cons go if he moves into the center and declares loud and clear his centrist populism.

Then he has the problem of the conservatives freeking out.
 
Trump would lose his Trumpeteers if he tried to sidle up to the establishment losers......let them offer to support him if they want a place in the sun...after all, he won the nomination for being the 'outsider'.....better to blow them off and let them twist in the wind....

Exactly.

When neocon losers like Ryan and Brit Hume advocate that you surrender on your own primary campaign points that helped you to win against all odds; it is usually sure proof that that is exactly what you SHOULD NOT do.
 
Why not leave administrative details to the secretaries?

Then again, they arent likely to be very secretive.

Clive palmer's people bring in their own laptops on their own system when they are in parliment house. Trump's a dark horse. Maybe he wont take on these establishment whores.
 
Trump got to the nomination by having a divided opposition, and often that opposition was itself divided along demographic and ideological groupings as well.

So it is supposed to be better for Trump in the general election if he faces Hillary one-on-one? Why? It has not been how he has won up to now, why expect it to be his best approach in the general?

There is merit to allowing the neocon wing of the GOP to split off and form a third p arty.
1. It is the basis for a ban on these goons ever returning to the party leadership. Simply disallow any who have failed to support the GOP Presidential candidate from ever holding GOP office again. This amounts to the neocons performing a self purge.

2. It helps Trump to win the election by giving a drain for anti-Trump voters to vote for a hopeless third party while Trump draws on Sanders supporters as a protest against Hillary. In a three way race this is solid strategy.

3. Trump would be staking out the true just right of center middle ground where most Americans are in this country and give him the best political base to campaign from. This also would be seen as giving him more authenticity for White Working Dems and independents.

Trump should continue to campaign the same way he did to get the GOP nomination; divide and conquer.

That's exactly how the american political system works. On the unsubstantial people, in favor of the ruling class.

Simply disallow any who have failed to support the GOP Presidential candidate from ever holding GOP office again.

That's what I love about america. We're all about democracy until it gets in the way of what we want.
 
Trump can let the neo-cons go if he moves into the center and declares loud and clear his centrist populism.

Then he has the problem of the conservatives freeking out.
Got news for you fake jake! Trump IS the center! That is why he won.

Trump is the center. Everyone else is a RINO. Makes complete sense.
When he wins the majority of the votes he is the center.

so far the only votes he has are votes from his supporters on the right or where ever he claims to be .. Trump is anything but the center of the republican party.
 
Simply disallow any who have failed to support the GOP Presidential candidate from ever holding GOP office again.

That's what I love about america. We're all about democracy until it gets in the way of what we want.
If these neocons split from the GOP and oppose the GOP candidate then they have been disloyal to the party and the GOP has the right as a private organization to ban any such people from ever hold office within the GOP ever again.

This is not a First Amendment right, so how do you come to this attitude that it is somehow unAmerican?

With heavy drinking?
 
so far the only votes he has are votes from his supporters on the right or where ever he claims to be .. Trump is anything but the center of the republican party.
I wish you Trump haters could make up your pea brained minds about whether Trump is an arch conservative or a neoMarxist liberal.

You guys are all over the map with that crap.
 
Voting for local party offices will always follow local party norms.
 
so far the only votes he has are votes from his supporters on the right or where ever he claims to be .. Trump is anything but the center of the republican party.
I wish you Trump haters could make up your pea brained minds about whether Trump is an arch conservative or a neoMarxist liberal.

You guys are all over the map with that crap.

It's the same with the "liberal", "conservative", "communist", "socialist", "capitalist" and all the rest of the labels crap. None of that really means anything, just bullshit so no one has to really address concepts and have a conversation. Label and dispatch.
 
so far the only votes he has are votes from his supporters on the right or where ever he claims to be .. Trump is anything but the center of the republican party.
I wish you Trump haters could make up your pea brained minds about whether Trump is an arch conservative or a neoMarxist liberal.

You guys are all over the map with that crap.
JB, Trump is both is the problem as well as being a populist.

He is speaking not only out of ass and mouth but also out of his ears.
 
Trump can let the neo-cons go if he moves into the center and declares loud and clear his centrist populism.

Then he has the problem of the conservatives freeking out.
Got news for you fake jake! Trump IS the center! That is why he won.

Trump is the center. Everyone else is a RINO. Makes complete sense.
When he wins the majority of the votes he is the center.

The majority of crazy right winger votes. You always forget that the republican nomination only includes right wingers. The majority of the country wasn't involved.
 
Simply disallow any who have failed to support the GOP Presidential candidate from ever holding GOP office again.

That's what I love about america. We're all about democracy until it gets in the way of what we want.
If these neocons split from the GOP and oppose the GOP candidate then they have been disloyal to the party and the GOP has the right as a private organization to ban any such people from ever hold office within the GOP ever again.

This is not a First Amendment right, so how do you come to this attitude that it is somehow unAmerican?

With heavy drinking?

There is always a rational for those once out of their own wished for majority to have their desires prevail, I'm sure you can find a loophole around the intent of the voice of a particular majority carrying the day.
 
It's the same with the "liberal", "conservative", "communist", "socialist", "capitalist" and all the rest of the labels crap. None of that really means anything, just bullshit so no one has to really address concepts and have a conversation. Label and dispatch.
Obviously these words do have meaning and the fact that people abuse these words and misuse them changes nothing about that.
 
There is always a rational for those once out of their own wished for majority to have their desires prevail, I'm sure you can find a loophole around the intent of the voice of a particular majority carrying the day.
Translation: I am going to continue throwing little shit balls at your posts even though I have nothing really to say about any of it of any substance at all.

Thank you.
 

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