CDZ Why Is America Worse Than Other Developed Countries At The Basic Function Of Keeping Its Citizens Alive?

[skews13]

America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.

Why Americans Die So Much

U.S. life spans, which have fallen behind those in Europe, are telling us something important about American society.

www.theatlantic.com

One very obvious example was left off the list.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

America has a huge population of backward people called Democrats who lower our country's statistics.

 

[shockedcanadian]

America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.

Why Americans Die So Much

U.S. life spans, which have fallen behind those in Europe, are telling us something important about American society.

www.theatlantic.com

One very obvious example was left off the list.

I'd guess diet, food standards and lack of mobility.

In places like France it's quite common for people to ride their bikes. How many Americans (and Canadians, certainly in the East), eat a dinner and sit down at the T.V with a beer? That isn't good for the body long term. We must move while/if we still can.

Food standards in Europe are far stricter than in N.A. Search online for foods that are banned there and for what reasons and you would be shocked. Especially breakfast foods and sugary, baked treats.

 

[Crepitus]

America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.

Why Americans Die So Much

U.S. life spans, which have fallen behind those in Europe, are telling us something important about American society.

www.theatlantic.com

One very obvious example was left off the list.

Republicans

 

[Darkwind]

It is NOT the responsibility of the government to look after your life expectancy.

When the fuck do we get back to take responsibility for our own lives?

 

[sparky]

Capitalist medicine dictates a customer cured is a customer lost ~S~

 

[sparky]

When the fuck do we get back to take responsibility for our own lives?

when the collective insists it so Dark one

~S~

 

[Darkwind]

when the collective insists it so Dark one

~S~

The Borg can go fuck itself.

 

[sparky]

The Borg can go fuck itself.

but they're so good @ assimulation Dark one

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp5ET-C-IrOI69U6McULKvHTmqbOUOXvbGQw&usqp=CAU

~S~

 

[candycorn]

Costa Ricans Live Longer Than We Do. Whatâs the Secret?

We’ve starved our public-health sector. The Costa Rica model demonstrates what happens when you put it first.

www.newyorker.com

From the piece:

"Life expectancy tends to track national income closely. Costa Rica has emerged as an exception. Searching a newer section of the cemetery that afternoon, I found only one grave for a child. Across all age cohorts, the country’s increase in health has far outpaced its increase in wealth. Although Costa Rica’s per-capita income is a sixth that of the United States—and its per-capita health-care costs are a fraction of ours—life expectancy there is approaching eighty-one years. In the United States, life expectancy peaked at just under seventy-nine years, in 2014, and has declined since."

Why?

Here is why.

"So when did Costa Rica’s results diverge from others’? That started in the early nineteen-seventies: the country adopted a national health plan, which broadened the health-care coverage provided by its social-security system, and a rural health program, which brought the kind of medical services that the cities had to the rest of the country. Atenas finally got a primary-care clinic. “With two or three doctors,” Salas recalled. “With five nurses. With social workers. For everything.” In 1973, the social-security administration was charged with upgrading the hospital system, including in Alajuela and other rural regions. In this early period, the country spent more of its G.D.P. on the health of its people than did other countries of similar income levels—and, indeed, more than some richer ones. But what set Costa Rica apart wasn’t simply the amount it spent on health care. It was how the money was spent: targeting the most readily preventable kinds of death and disability.

That may sound like common sense. But medical systems seldom focus on any overarching outcome for the communities they serve. We doctors are reactive. We wait to see who arrives at our office and try to help out with their “chief complaint.” We move on to the next person’s chief complaint: What seems to be the problem? We don’t ask what our town’s most important health needs are, let alone make a concerted effort to tackle them. If we were oriented toward public health, we would have been in touch with all our patients, if not everyone in the communities we serve, to schedule appointments for vaccination against the coronavirus, the No. 3 killer in the past year. We would have coördinated with public-health officials to prevent cardiovascular disease, the No. 1 killer, by jointly taking aim at high blood pressure and cholesterol, smoking, and dietary salt intake. We would have made a priority of preventing disease, rather than just treating it. But we haven’t."

It continues:

"I saw this reliability throughout our visits. Because everyone was enrolled with an ebais, everyone was contacted individually about a covid vaccination appointment—most at their neighborhood clinic and a few at home. One woman I met explained that she’d learned about her appointment by phone. I asked her what would happen if the ebais folks didn’t call. She looked at me puzzled. Maybe something was lost in translation. She repeated that she knew what week they would call, and they called. I persisted: What if they didn’t? She’d wait a couple of days and call herself, she said. It was no big deal. She asked me how things worked where I was from. I could only sigh."

If that happened here...the health department would be sued for calling someone.

Finally...

"She wants all the members of her teams to understand that their priority is “the relationship with the community, not just between the physician and patient.” This, she said, is the foundation of the ebaissystem. There are critical services that have to reach everyone in the community at every stage of life, she explained. Children have regular pediatric visits, starting from the first days of life. Pregnant women have their prenatal and postnatal checks. All adults have tests and follow-up visits to prevent and treat everything from iron deficiency to H.I.V. It’s all free. If people don’t show up for their appointments, she makes sure their team finds out why and figures out what can be done."

I'm set for retirement in less than a decade. Costa Rica may be a good place to spend my sunset years....

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Keeping people alive is not a legitimate function of any government.

 

[Anathema]

The answer is very simple:

The United States is the only developed country which has founding documents which remind the Citizens and Government that the health of the people is a responsibility of the People indidually not the Government.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.

Why Americans Die So Much

U.S. life spans, which have fallen behind those in Europe, are telling us something important about American society.

www.theatlantic.com

One very obvious example was left off the list

Maybe if you started with the "Sanctity of Life" and stop aborting babies inside or outside the womb, then more people wouldnt be so damn numb to what is happening in the inner cites where blacks kill blacks, more than the Kung Flu does...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I'd guess diet, food standards and lack of mobility.

In places like France it's quite common for people to ride their bikes. How many Americans (and Canadians, certainly in the East), eat a dinner and sit down at the T.V with a beer? That isn't good for the body long term. We must move while/if we still can.

Food standards in Europe are far stricter than in N.A. Search online for foods that are banned there and for what reasons and you would be shocked. Especially breakfast foods and sugary, baked treats.

Can you imagine what would happen if some "Fat Black Cow" walked into a Wendy's and was denied service because it was for her health?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'd guess diet, food standards and lack of mobility.

In places like France it's quite common for people to ride their bikes. How many Americans (and Canadians, certainly in the East), eat a dinner and sit down at the T.V with a beer? That isn't good for the body long term. We must move while/if we still can.

Food standards in Europe are far stricter than in N.A. Search online for foods that are banned there and for what reasons and you would be shocked. Especially breakfast foods and sugary, baked treats.

So the government gets to decide what you can and cannot eat? How is that freedom?

 

[ClaireH]

It is NOT the responsibility of the government to look after your life expectancy.

When the fuck do we get back to take responsibility for our own lives?

Great question and I wish more people had the same attitude. The national media could really help with reporting on the latest health tips, but they are walking in step with the current administration promoting increased reliance on government which is polar opposite to self-reliance.

 

[August West]

Costa Ricans Live Longer Than We Do. Whatâs the Secret?

We’ve starved our public-health sector. The Costa Rica model demonstrates what happens when you put it first.

www.newyorker.com

From the piece:

"Life expectancy tends to track national income closely. Costa Rica has emerged as an exception. Searching a newer section of the cemetery that afternoon, I found only one grave for a child. Across all age cohorts, the country’s increase in health has far outpaced its increase in wealth. Although Costa Rica’s per-capita income is a sixth that of the United States—and its per-capita health-care costs are a fraction of ours—life expectancy there is approaching eighty-one years. In the United States, life expectancy peaked at just under seventy-nine years, in 2014, and has declined since."

Why?

Here is why.

"So when did Costa Rica’s results diverge from others’? That started in the early nineteen-seventies: the country adopted a national health plan, which broadened the health-care coverage provided by its social-security system, and a rural health program, which brought the kind of medical services that the cities had to the rest of the country. Atenas finally got a primary-care clinic. “With two or three doctors,” Salas recalled. “With five nurses. With social workers. For everything.” In 1973, the social-security administration was charged with upgrading the hospital system, including in Alajuela and other rural regions. In this early period, the country spent more of its G.D.P. on the health of its people than did other countries of similar income levels—and, indeed, more than some richer ones. But what set Costa Rica apart wasn’t simply the amount it spent on health care. It was how the money was spent: targeting the most readily preventable kinds of death and disability.

That may sound like common sense. But medical systems seldom focus on any overarching outcome for the communities they serve. We doctors are reactive. We wait to see who arrives at our office and try to help out with their “chief complaint.” We move on to the next person’s chief complaint: What seems to be the problem? We don’t ask what our town’s most important health needs are, let alone make a concerted effort to tackle them. If we were oriented toward public health, we would have been in touch with all our patients, if not everyone in the communities we serve, to schedule appointments for vaccination against the coronavirus, the No. 3 killer in the past year. We would have coördinated with public-health officials to prevent cardiovascular disease, the No. 1 killer, by jointly taking aim at high blood pressure and cholesterol, smoking, and dietary salt intake. We would have made a priority of preventing disease, rather than just treating it. But we haven’t."

It continues:

"I saw this reliability throughout our visits. Because everyone was enrolled with an ebais, everyone was contacted individually about a covid vaccination appointment—most at their neighborhood clinic and a few at home. One woman I met explained that she’d learned about her appointment by phone. I asked her what would happen if the ebais folks didn’t call. She looked at me puzzled. Maybe something was lost in translation. She repeated that she knew what week they would call, and they called. I persisted: What if they didn’t? She’d wait a couple of days and call herself, she said. It was no big deal. She asked me how things worked where I was from. I could only sigh."

If that happened here...the health department would be sued for calling someone.

Finally...

"She wants all the members of her teams to understand that their priority is “the relationship with the community, not just between the physician and patient.” This, she said, is the foundation of the ebaissystem. There are critical services that have to reach everyone in the community at every stage of life, she explained. Children have regular pediatric visits, starting from the first days of life. Pregnant women have their prenatal and postnatal checks. All adults have tests and follow-up visits to prevent and treat everything from iron deficiency to H.I.V. It’s all free. If people don’t show up for their appointments, she makes sure their team finds out why and figures out what can be done."

I'm set for retirement in less than a decade. Costa Rica may be a good place to spend my sunset years....

Costa Rica is the only country in Central America that people are trying to get into, not escape from. The wife of a Costa Rican friend had her second child last year and the out of pocket cost was $150. They disbanded their army in 1948 and wisely redirected the money towards towards health care and education. If you plan on retiring there start doing your homework now because it`s not an easy place to move to. My wife would never leave her children and grand children so I`ll have to settle for frequent visits to that wonderful country.

 

[candycorn]

Costa Rica is the only country in Central America that people are trying to get into, not escape from. The wife of a Costa Rican friend had her second child last year and the out of pocket cost was $150. They disbanded their army in 1948 and wisely redirected the money towards towards health care and education. If you plan on retiring there start doing your homework now because it`s not an easy place to move to. My wife would never leave her children and grand children so I`ll have to settle for frequent visits to that wonderful country.

Just thinking out loud. Got a decent nest egg. Who knows

 

[sartre play]

Yep, every thing bad that has is or will happen is the new presidents fault. just ask most of the people on this board.

 

[Bernhard]

America has a death problem.

No, I’m not just talking about the past year and a half, during which COVID-19 deaths per capita in the United States outpaced those in similarly rich countries, such as Canada, Japan, and France. And I’m not just talking about the past decade, during which drug overdoses skyrocketed in the U.S., creating a social epidemic of what are often called “deaths of despair.”

I’m talking about the past 30 years. Before the 1990s, average life expectancy in the U.S. was not much different than it was in Germany, the United Kingdom, or France. But since the 1990s, American life spans started falling significantly behind those in similarly wealthy European countries.

Why Americans Die So Much

U.S. life spans, which have fallen behind those in Europe, are telling us something important about American society.

www.theatlantic.com

One very obvious example was left off the list.

My honest guess is because you guys underestimate the idea of "the common good".

In Europe, the left believes individuals shouldn't screw the majority. But even conservatives believe that "with freedom, there comes responsibility", which means when you get rich, you have a responsibility towards the common good.

America just has an ideology of denouncing people believing such a thing as the common good even exists as "socialists". Instead, you celebrate a culture of individuals who insist on their freedom, without ever taking responsibility for anything but themselves. Hence the shape of the gun debate, the health care debate, yadda yadda.

America is a third world country when it comes to community.