Why I am Catholic

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Kind of personal don't you think? ( you would if you had the holy spirit in you and not blinded by the god of this age)

No. I don't think it is personal. You put it out there that you know the Bible very well, right?

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's super odd that after you bragged about how much you know about the Bible that you can't even summarize Genesis chapters 1 & 2.

I didn't brag, I stated facts.and once again you are getting personal

 

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I didn't brag, I stated facts.and once again you are getting personal

Ok, you stated as a fact that you know the Bible very well, right?

How is your interpretation of the Bible personal? Don't you discuss your beliefs with others? Aren't you supposed to evangelize your beliefs?

 

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I didn't brag, I stated facts.and once again you are getting personal

Do you believe God created existence? If so, where did you get that idea from? Was it Genesis chapter 1? Or am I being too personal asking you this?

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's super odd that after you bragged about how much you know about the Bible that you can't even summarize Genesis chapters 1 & 2.

You can't summarize a poem or a song, it's personal and spiritual, you really are blind.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Ok, you stated as a fact that you know the Bible very well, right?

How is your interpretation of the Bible personal? Don't you discuss your beliefs with others? Aren't you supposed to evangelize your beliefs?

I don't evangelize I debate

 

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You can't summarize a poem or a song, it's personal and spiritual, you really are blind.

Says the guy who won't say whether he believes God created existence or not even though it's like the first verse in the Bible.

 

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I don't evangelize I debate

How can you debate when you can't even say what you believe Genesis chapters 1 & 2 are telling you.

Can you at least tell me what you disagree with and why?

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation; only man has knowledge of good and evil
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Says the guy who won't say whether he believes God created existence or not even though it's like the first verse in the Bible.

Again the word OUR...

Our


Our


our
/ˈou(ə)r,är/

determiner

1. 1.
   belonging to or associated with the speaker and one or more other people previously mentioned or easily identified.
   "Jo and I had our hair cut"
2. 2.
   used by a writer, editor, or monarch to refer to something belonging to or associated with himself or herself.

 

[Wyatt earp]

How can you debate when you can't even say what you believe Genesis chapters 1 & 2 are telling you.

Can you at least tell me what you disagree with and why?

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation; only man has knowledge of good and evil
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation.

For the third time it sounds like an atheist would post that, you can't summarize a song or poem and that's what Genesis 1 and 2 is, it's deeper then just words

 

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For the third time it sounds like an atheist would post that, you can't summarize a song or poem and that's what Genesis 1 and 2 is, it's deeper then just words

Says the guy who has yet to state what he disagrees with.

"In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth"​

Is saying God created existence. Yes or no?

 

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Apparently Catholics do read the Bible more than Protestants.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Says the guy who has yet to state what he disagrees with.

"In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth"​

Is saying God created existence. Yes or no?

Good God it's a song, a poem ITS more than words you really can't figure it out can you?

 

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Good God it's a song, a poem ITS more than words you really can't figure it out can you?

No. Genesis 1 and 2 is an allegorical account of the answers to the origin questions.

 

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Good God it's a song, a poem ITS more than words you really can't figure it out can you?

I have figured it out. I even told you what it means. You are the one who can't figure it out which is why you haven't told me what you think it means.

 

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The first five books of the Bible (known as the Torah) were allegedly written by Moses - an adopted son of the king of Egypt - in approximately 1400 B.C.. These five books focus on the beginning of the nation of Israel; but the first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years. Moses did not really write the first 11 chapters of the Bible. Moses was the first Hebrew to allegedly record them.

Approximately 800 years before Moses recorded the allegorical accounts of the history of the world. The Chinese recorded this history as symbols in the Chinese language. They drew pictures to express words or ideas. Simple pictures were combined to make more complex thoughts. They used well known history and common everyday things to make a word so people could easily remember it. The account of Genesis found it's way into the Chinese written language because the Chinese had migrated from the cradle of civilization. Prior to this migration they all shared a common history and religion.

The Bible even explains how it was possible for the Chinese to record the account of Genesis 800 years before Moses allegedly recorded it. The account of the Tower of Babel was the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia. This also explains why all ancient cultures have an account of a great flood. Because they all shared a common history and religion before the great migration from the cradle of civilization.

So if we start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

We have to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, we are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning. If you were to ask almost any Jew what the Tower of Babel was about he would have no clue that it was the allegorical account of the great migration from the cradle of civilization. That is not intended to be a criticism. It is intended to be an illustration of just how difficult a task it is to discover the original meaning from ancient accounts from 6,000 years ago. We read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make ourselves feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on us.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No. Genesis 1 and 2 is an allegorical account of the answers to the origin questions.

No it's not, only an atheist would post that

 

[Wyatt earp]

I have figured it out. I even told you what it means. You are the one who can't figure it out which is why you haven't told me what you think it means.

Sorry you are taking it literally word for word in a English translation what you think it means is not what it means

 

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No it's not, only an atheist would post that

That's how you need to see it.

 

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Sorry you are taking it literally word for word in a English translation what you think it means is not what it means

Let me know when you can share your interpretation. My point has been made.