Zone1 Why doesn't god just kill satan

Nope. The curse was the death of the first born, and that's who died. You'll note that the dead kids were too young to have understood any of it any way. Are we back to believing the parts we like, and saying the rest is just symbolism?
You added all were kids. That seems to be an addition you like/prefer. Scripture says, "First Born". Therefore, something to contemplate. It has been said by Rabbis that scripture has something for those who wish to splash in the shallows, and also something for those who enjoy its great depths.
 
Definition of Omnipotent: Knowing all there is to know when it is available to know.

And rather than suffering, it is preferable to be wrapped in cotton batting and placed safely on a shelf? Or....How about God being with us through our suffering? Which would you choose?
No. All knowing is all knowing. Not just figuring it out as it goes along. How about an omnipotent god who loves and cares about us. One who supplies all our needs as promised. I'm asking no more than what is promised multiple times in the bible. What kind of god doesn't honor his promises?
 
You added all were kids. That seems to be an addition you like/prefer. Scripture says, "First Born". Therefore, something to contemplate. It has been said by Rabbis that scripture has something for those who wish to splash in the shallows, and also something for those who enjoy its great depths.
True. Thanks for the correction. It was pharoe who ordered the midwives to kill male children at birth. Seems pharoe was more compassionate than god.
 
Where did you come up with that goofy remark? Did that come from your silly straw man?
Either there is objective reality or anything goes. Which is it? I don't expect you to answer. It's easier just to call things 'goofy' and not have to think.
 
No. All knowing is all knowing. Not just figuring it out as it goes along. How about an omnipotent god who loves and cares about us. One who supplies all our needs as promised. I'm asking no more than what is promised multiple times in the bible. What kind of god doesn't honor his promises?
You have to do your part. There's no free lunch. What is it with leftists/atheists who think everything should be without cost? Nothing in life is like that.
 
No. All knowing is all knowing. Not just figuring it out as it goes along. How about an omnipotent god who loves and cares about us. One who supplies all our needs as promised. I'm asking no more than what is promised multiple times in the bible. What kind of god doesn't honor his promises?
I would suggest looking at the etymology, but it wouldn't change your mind. What I have always found ironic are those who create/imagine God as they would like Him to be. When this idealistic expectation pops, the conclusion is, "There is no God." I came to a conclusion a long time ago that the reason so many cannot find God is that attitude of, "I'll accept God if...." Or, "I'll accept God if He does...." Ironic, isn't it, that so many want to make an idol of God Himself? God said, "I am who I am" and for too many the response is, "Well, that's just not good enough for me."

Tell me I'm not the only one who has compassion for God. Imagine being God, and there are still people who won't accept you as you truly are.
 
True. Thanks for the correction. It was pharoe who ordered the midwives to kill male children at birth. Seems pharoe was more compassionate than god.
Sure. God told the Israelites what they must do to survive the plagues that surrounded Egypt. Pharaoh, on the other hand, did not say what must be done for Israelite babies to survive. Do you know what all the plagues represent? That tenth plague was about the power of God. Ra (the Pharaoh) claimed he had the power of God--that if Moses saw his face, he would die.
 
That is the definition of being omniscient. Omnipotent is being all-powerful.
Thank you for the correction. I know that, but sometimes my fingers don't listen to what I mean! :)
 
Not to poke a hornets nets but just think of it as ying/yang........light and dark, both need to exist otherwise there would be no choice.
you can choose to be a good person or an evil person
 
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Thank you for the correction. I know that, but sometimes my fingers don't listen to what I mean! :)

I tried not to get real technical: but technically, being omniscient means all-knowing. Not all-knowing of what can be known but all-knowing of everything. In the strict sense, God knows everything, even those things not yet happened nor determined.
 
I tried not to get real technical: but technically, being omniscient means all-knowing. Not all-knowing of what can be known but all-knowing of everything. In the strict sense, God knows everything, even those things not yet happened nor determined.
Ah, but that's the point. God knows everything at the point it is knowable--which is a far different point than when it is known to mankind.

The same with all the omni's so discussions don't descend into the silliness of, "Is God so powerful he can create something he cannot lift? Or, does God know everything he doesn't know? If God doesn't know what he doesn't know, how can he know everything? I think it meant to keep the omni's from circling in on themselves.
 
Ah, but that's the point. God knows everything at the point it is knowable--which is a far different point than when it is known to mankind.

All things are knowable to God, even the unknown. Some things are never known to mankind. To God, if it exists, it is known, if it will exist, it is known, and if it never will exist, it is known.

But there are finite limits to such discussions because sooner or later, they devolve into "proof" of God's non-existence because of the false belief that if God were real, he would just wave a wand and undo all of the imperfections created in the world through mankind's own free will.
 
But I did. I faithfully looked up all the scriptures that supported what the standard stories said and easily accepted the dogma as presented. Only after retirement, when time allowed, did I delve deeper into the wider stories of what was taught from the pulpit.

You "looked up" verses? You didn't delve deep when you were a Christian--you just swallowed the dogma?
 
Either there is objective reality or anything goes. Which is it? I don't expect you to answer. It's easier just to call things 'goofy' and not have to think.
Recognizing good and evil doesn't require religion.
 
You have to do your part. There's no free lunch. What is it with leftists/atheists who think everything should be without cost? Nothing in life is like that.
There is a cost for most things. Whether that cost is reasonable is the choice.
 
I would suggest looking at the etymology, but it wouldn't change your mind. What I have always found ironic are those who create/imagine God as they would like Him to be. When this idealistic expectation pops, the conclusion is, "There is no God." I came to a conclusion a long time ago that the reason so many cannot find God is that attitude of, "I'll accept God if...." Or, "I'll accept God if He does...." Ironic, isn't it, that so many want to make an idol of God Himself? God said, "I am who I am" and for too many the response is, "Well, that's just not good enough for me."

Tell me I'm not the only one who has compassion for God. Imagine being God, and there are still people who won't accept you as you truly are.
I didn't create an image of god. I used the image depicted in the bible. I ask and expect nothing more or less than what is claimed in the bible. If a god is to demand acquiescence, his first obligation should be to show unquestionable proof of his existence. Otherwise, we are back to a kid with a magnifying glass and those ants.
 
Sure. God told the Israelites what they must do to survive the plagues that surrounded Egypt. Pharaoh, on the other hand, did not say what must be done for Israelite babies to survive. Do you know what all the plagues represent? That tenth plague was about the power of God. Ra (the Pharaoh) claimed he had the power of God--that if Moses saw his face, he would die.
Christianity isn't based on the deity of Ra. What the pharaoh said or did doesn't change the depiction of god in the bible.
 
You "looked up" verses? You didn't delve deep when you were a Christian--you just swallowed the dogma?
As the vast majority of Christians do. I was a devout Christian when I began my in depth study. My goal was to be a more informed Christian.
 
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