Zone1 Why doesn't god just kill satan

[SweetSue92]

As the vast majority of Christians do. I was a devout Christian when I began my in depth study. My goal was to be a more informed Christian.

If you were a "devout Christian" you would have been one BECAUSE of study.

Remember: a lot of people will say "Lord Lord" at the end but Jesus will say "I never knew you"

 

[egp320i]

If there’s objective morality, then there has to be a lawgiver. This is religion debate 101.

right but who is the "king" as all major religion have their own, that is part of the problem. my god is right, your god is wrong....on and on

 

[Meriweather]

I didn't create an image of god. I used the image depicted in the bible. I ask and expect nothing more or less than what is claimed in the bible. If a god is to demand acquiescence, his first obligation should be to show unquestionable proof of his existence.

I went by a different route. Before I even knew the verse, "Seek and you shall find" I was seeking God. Then, as an adult I read through the Bible, and found the Old Testament confusing as this wasn't at all like my experience of God. Ah, but then came the Hebrew language and the study of the Old Testament with a lot of rabbinical commentary. And the confusion vanished.

I get that you now see God through the perspective of King James. And, being completely satisfied with that perspective, how easy it is to dismiss God from one's life. Best excuse to throw at people of faith.

 

[Meriweather]

Christianity isn't based on the deity of Ra. What the pharaoh said or did doesn't change the depiction of god in the bible.

The life of the early Israelites was very much immersed in the gods of Egypt, particularly the ten major Egyptian gods. The story of the plagues was written with these gods in mind. King James didn't know this, of course, nor did the Christians of that time. But at the time Exodus was written....all these gods....and in the midst of them the idea/insistence there is One God of all. The Ten Plagues laid out just how powerless the ten gods of Egypt, and how powerful the One God of all.

What a difference when scripture is not read, but studied.

 

[mikegriffith1]

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It doesn't make sense to me. Just seems like a way to instill fear.

If you read the Bible, you'll learn that after the Second Coming, Satan will be forever banished to outer darkness and will never again be able to harass/tempt/harm human beings.

 

[Votto]

If you read the Bible, you'll learn that after the Second Coming, Satan will be forever banished to outer darkness and will never again be able to harass/tempt/harm human beings.

Yes, but the question is, why not now?

It is a fair question we all ask on some level.

In reality, satan died long ago, but is now the "living dead".

Why though does he have the power to torment us?

 

[Mashmont]

right but who is the "king" as all major religion have their own, that is part of the problem. my god is right, your god is wrong....on and on

The One who died on the Cross and rose from the dead would be my pick.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Good Versus Evil For Simpletons "

* Good For You Is Bad For Some Other *

It could also be described that evil is the absence of Good.

That would be an over simplified description for nonsense .

 

[BULLDOG]

If there’s objective morality, then there has to be a lawgiver. This is religion debate 101.

No. Man has an innate ability to know right from wrong. This has been demonstrated countless times over a wide range of societies.

 

[BULLDOG]

If you were a "devout Christian" you would have been one BECAUSE of study.

Remember: a lot of people will say "Lord Lord" at the end but Jesus will say "I never knew you"

No. I was a devout Christian because I trusted the judgement of parents, preachers, and Sunday school teachers. No doubt the country of my birth had a lot to do with it too. Born in another country, I likely would have been devout in whatever religion might be prevalent in that country.

 

[BULLDOG]

I went by a different route. Before I even knew the verse, "Seek and you shall find" I was seeking God. Then, as an adult I read through the Bible, and found the Old Testament confusing as this wasn't at all like my experience of God. Ah, but then came the Hebrew language and the study of the Old Testament with a lot of rabbinical commentary. And the confusion vanished.

I get that you now see God through the perspective of King James. And, being completely satisfied with that perspective, how easy it is to dismiss God from one's life. Best excuse to throw at people of faith.

Not really an excuse. I have no need of an excuse. You might note that "seek and you shall find" is what led me to see the reality of what is written in the bible.

 

[SweetSue92]

No. I was a devout Christian because I trusted the judgement of parents, preachers, and Sunday school teachers. No doubt the country of my birth had a lot to do with it too. Born in another country, I likely would have been devout in whatever religion might be prevalent in that country.

No Christian comes to Christ that way. You must accept Him for YOURSELF. You must believe it yourself. Neither the parents, the pastor, nor anyone else can save you.

 

[BULLDOG]

No Christian comes to Christ that way. You must accept Him for YOURSELF. You must believe it yourself. Neither the parents, the pastor, nor anyone else can save you.

Do you think that is the first time I ever heard that? Yours is just another one of the few pat answers usually spouted. My favorite is fully accept and believe first and then all the promised blessings will be fulfilled. Been there Done that. Didn't work.

 

[Mashmont]

No. Man has an innate ability to know right from wrong. This has been demonstrated countless times over a wide range of societies.

Perhaps some very instances of right and wrong and understood innately, but many are not apparent, such as the immorality of masturbation and sex outside marriage. But the fact objective morality exists indicates andoutside source for these laws.

 

[Meriweather]

Not really an excuse. I have no need of an excuse. You might note that "seek and you shall find" is what led me to see the reality of what is written in the bible.

Seek and find God, Himself--not what was written about Him in the Bible--and especially not what was written about God via King James.

 

[Meriweather]

Do you think that is the first time I ever heard that? Yours is just another one of the few pat answers usually spouted. My favorite is fully accept and believe first and then all the promised blessings will be fulfilled. Been there Done that. Didn't work.

Did you find it impossible to love Jesus? Did you find it impossible to follow his teachings? What I like better is those who begin by loving God, also end up loving the Law; those who begin by loving the Law, end up loving God, too.

 

[SweetSue92]

Do you think that is the first time I ever heard that? Yours is just another one of the few pat answers usually spouted. My favorite is fully accept and believe first and then all the promised blessings will be fulfilled. Been there Done that. Didn't work.

Yes, I know that. You didn't ever really believe, for yourself. That's not a "devout Christian". Whether you agree or not, "devout Christians" truly, really believe what the Bible says. They don't believe because Mom and Dad said they should

 

[BULLDOG]

Perhaps some very instances of right and wrong and understood innately, but many are not apparent, such as the immorality of masturbation and sex outside marriage. But the fact objective morality exists indicates andoutside source for these laws.

No it doesn't.

 

[BULLDOG]

Seek and find God, Himself--not what was written about Him in the Bible--and especially not what was written about God via King James.

Right. Sounds like a real loving god to play hide and seek with those who would truly love to have a relationship with a loving god, while knowing if he hides well enough, those that would know him will suffer forever in hell.

 

[BULLDOG]

Did you find it impossible to love Jesus? Did you find it impossible to follow his teachings? What I like better is those who begin by loving God, also end up loving the Law; those who begin by loving the Law, end up loving God, too.

Jesus teachings are amazing. It's a shame Christians don't follow them more closely.