Zone1 Why doesn't god just kill satan

Yes, I know that. You didn't ever really believe, for yourself. That's not a "devout Christian". Whether you agree or not, "devout Christians" truly, really believe what the Bible says. They don't believe because Mom and Dad said they should
Yes, I really believed. That was the reason for in depth study.
 
Right. Sounds like a real loving god to play hide and seek with those who would truly love to have a relationship with a loving god, while knowing if he hides well enough, those that would know him will suffer forever in hell.
Written by a petulant child who has no wish to know God, but would love to find a genii willing to do his/her bidding in an instant.
Jesus teachings are amazing. It's a shame Christians don't follow them more closely.
Especially the teachings where Jesus said:, Seek God and you will find Him and, Discern the will of God and follow it. Closing with: I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me. Agree?
 
Yes, I really believed. That was the reason for in depth study.
And that study ended up with you denying both the Father and the Son. Have you ever considered asking St. Peter to join you in prayer so that, like him, you can find the way back?
 
Spoken like a religious nutjob
Alrighty then. Now that you have repeated that I am a religious nut job a thousand times when will you ever take a look at yourself and your professed belief that Jesus died for YOUR sins by being executed as a religious nut job so that you won't have to pay the penalty for YOUR sins, death, a curse, and can remain an asshole and sin with impunity for life and not die "the death", a curse, and conclude that you have been living under a delusion for your entire life because you don't have the faith awareness or honesty to "see" that you have suffered the death, a curse, for YOUR reprehensible sins, including using your beloved Jesus as a scapegoat, no matter how many decades you have celebrated the death of Jesus and defied the Law of God to worship a matzo in church?

Seriously. You claim to be saved because Jesus was crucified, yet you display all the signs of a person under the condemnation of God. How do you expect to escape the condemnation of the hell that you are already in?

Lying in the name of God? Desecrating the teachings of Jesus? Defying the Law of God, committing idolatry and misleading others to do the same which amounts to intentional murder, a sin under penalty of death, a curse?

Pssst. You may be having a bonafide and deeply profound "religious experience" in church, dying every single time you defy the Law of God at mass, never finding peace in death, whee! Its just not a very good one. Dummy.

Good luck with that!


attacking a rival religion.

You don't understand. I am not attacking a rival religion. :auiqs.jpg: I am freeing all of the lost souls in hells keeping.

Maybe not you but I certainly don't give a shit since you don't.
 
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Yes, some specific good can occasionally come from evil, but it is extremely rare, and nothing you can usually expect.
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way. I know better and am better for knowing better.
 
I see. You have information that is vastly important to the entire world, but you refuse to share it unless you think you might get some personal gain from it. You sound more like trump every day.
No, that's not it at all, but if it helps you to see it that way, be my guest.
 
Alrighty then. Now that you have repeated that I am a religious nut job a thousand times when will you ever take a look at yourself and your professed belief that Jesus died for YOUR sins by being executed as a religious nut job so that you won't have to pay the penalty for YOUR sins, death, a curse, and can remain an asshole and sin with impunity for life and not die "the death", a curse, and conclude that you have been living under a delusion for your entire life because you don't have the faith awareness or honesty to "see" that you have suffered the death, a curse, for YOUR reprehensible sins, including using your beloved Jesus as a scapegoat, no matter how many decades you have celebrated the death of Jesus and defied the Law of God to worship a matzo in church?

Seriously. You claim to be saved because Jesus was crucified, yet you display all the signs of a person under the condemnation of God. How do you expect to escape the condemnation of the hell that you are already in?

Lying in the name of God? Desecrating the teachings of Jesus? Defying the Law of God, committing idolatry and misleading others to do the same which amounts to intentional murder, a sin under penalty of death, a curse?

Pssst. You may be having a bonafide and deeply profound "religious experience" in church, dying every single time you defy the Law of God at mass, never finding peace in death, whee! Its just not a very good one. Dummy.

Good luck with that!




You don't understand. I am not attacking a rival religion. :auiqs.jpg: I am freeing all of the lost souls in hells keeping.

Maybe not you but I certainly don't give a shit since you don't.
Thank you for proving my point.
 
There are no truths on which we disagree my friend. You're still holding on to your sadness and anger but I don't understand completely why you can't let it go. What you were taught by your church when you were a child, obviously couldn't suffice for when you became an educated adult! Eventually you're going to have to come to terms with what you now know were lies.
I'm here to help!
I've yet to discover anything we agree upon. Subversives like yourself are ideologs and ideologs can expect to experience predictable surprises. I'm patient.
 
No, I didn't attack the theory or the physical evidence. Your issue is that the Catholic church claimed our local big bang for proof of the god's creation myth. Now the church could be left holding the bag as new discoveries may show that the church shouldn't have grabbed the opportunity so quickly. IF you've deprived yourself of new information gathered by the JWST then there's no hope of you understanding that which we're trying to discuss. Remember the days when you accused non-believers of trying to invent a multiverse instead of accepting our local big bang as proof of creation?
Of course you did. The universe popping into existence freaks you out as well it should.
 
Make yourself aware of latest science learned through the JWST. I'm not running a science class for your benefit. Especially when you're trying to bring your god into the classroom!

Sorry but tough love is becoming the only way forward with you my friend.
You didn't answer the question. What EVIDENCE do you believe exists for the existence of other universes? You do know what evidence is, right?
 
SOME THEORIES BASED ON EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE:
  1. The Sun, Moon and planets are all Gods which determine our day lives.
  2. The Earth is the universe and is flat.
  3. The Earth is the center of everything.
Seriously though, as to the Big Bang, I agree there was a Big Bang, I agree there was a point where everything expanded out from a point of creation. The house is still out though as to the actual cause of that event, exactly what went on during and shortly after that event, and whether this was a one-off event or just one more in many repeating cycles of recurring universes.
The CMB and red shift are the empirical evidence of the universe popping into existence. The formation of the CMB explains how the universe popped into existence.
 
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way. I know better and am better for knowing better.
Don't mistake my meaning. Nothing good does or could come directly from evil. Perhaps some good might come from someone's personal response to evil, but that is the result of the individual's choices, not a natural result of evil its self.
 
Don't mistake my meaning. Nothing good does or could come directly from evil. Perhaps some good might come from someone's personal response to evil, but that is the result of the individual's choices, not a natural result of evil its self.
I am aware that is your belief. There's no confusion on my part.
 
I couldn't be happier for you to see it that way. I know better and am better for knowing better.
I know, I know. You know better and are so much better because you love Jesus so much that you celebrate his crucifixion and death as if that alleviates you from being held accountable to God for your own vile and degrading sins that are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field. I hate to break the news to you pal but

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY.


Death, a curse, the consequence for your own sins, and existence without life in Hades, the realm of the dead.

Congratulations!
 
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You didn't answer the question. What EVIDENCE do you believe exists for the existence of other universes? You do know what evidence is, right?
Evidence! That's just it. Evidence from the JWST strongly suggests a theory that there is something much bigger beyond the reaches of our big bang.

You're not obliged to believe it until science is able to determine whether the theories are correct. You're free to be a denialist if you find it all troubling.
 
I know, I know. You know better and are so much better because you love Jesus so much that you celebrate his crucifixion and death as if that alleviates you from being held accountable to God for your own vile and degrading sins that are as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field. I hate to break the news to you pal but

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY.


Death, a curse, the consequence for your own sins, and existence without life in Hades, the realm of the dead.

Congratulations!
It's religious nutjobs like you that think they know better.
 
Evidence! That's just it. Evidence from the JWST strongly suggests a theory that there is something much bigger beyond the reaches of our big bang.

You're not obliged to believe it until science is able to determine whether the theories are correct. You're free to be a denialist if you find it all troubling.
What evidence?
 

What if it's better to keep you asking for the evidence, rather than posting a link with the evidence?

I'll have to think about that for a while?
I have evidence. You are the one without evidence. If you had evidence, you'd say the evidence is this or that. You'd call it out by name and explain it.
 
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