Zone1 Why doesn't god just kill satan
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Mr Natural
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Why did He send His only son to be brutally murdered when He could have just snapped His fingers and eliminated all the sinners in one fell swoop?
Seems the sinners got off scott free and Jesus died a miserable death.
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Listened to a homily which offered this: For hundreds of years, people accepted Christ had died for the sins of mankind. Instead of punishing mankind, the Son of God/God took on the punishment. Drag him into court and crucify him for what we have done wrong. Now, over the last hundred years or so atheists have been crying God did everything wrong. Same scenario. Drag Him into court and crucify him for doing everything wrong.
However you want to look at it, God accepts the torture/punishment. He'll let us crucify him. Satisfied?
Jesus didn't die but he suffered to pay a debt he established.
There are no truths on which we disagree my friend.
You're still holding on to your sadness and anger but I don't understand completely why you can't let it go.
What you were taught by your church when you were a child, obviously couldn't suffice for when you became an educated adult!
Eventually you're going to have to come to terms with what you now know were lies.
I'm here to help!
No, I didn't attack the theory or the physical evidence.
Your issue is that the Catholic church claimed our local big bang for proof of the god's creation myth. Now the church could be left holding the bag as new discoveries may show that the church shouldn't have grabbed the opportunity so quickly.
IF you've deprived yourself of new information gathered by the JWST then there's no hope of you understanding that which we're trying to discuss.
Remember the days when you accused non-believers of trying to invent a multiverse instead of accepting our local big bang as proof of creation?
Make yourself aware of latest science learned through the JWST. I'm not running a science class for your benefit. Especially when you're trying to bring your god into the classroom!
Sorry but tough love is becoming the only way forward with you my friend.
You too my friend are going to have to come to terms with understanding that what you were taught by the church to believe as a child, couldn't possibly sustain you as an educated adult.
Can you at least bear saying that the Noah's ark story was a fairy tale? That's just one of the first baby steps on freedom to think!
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Yes, we have all heard that since childhood. The taketh away part is hard to understand, especially for a god that is supposed to be so compassionate and loving.
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WTF is that supposed to mean? God allowed a child to die so I could be nice and take her parents a covered tuna casserole? Are you really going to go with that?
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That is a good practice for everybody. No religion required.
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Of course that's what your religion says. Still makes no sense
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And that’s the beauty of religion: it doesn’t need to make sense; just mindless following with no questions asked.
Why do atheists and leftists think life should be a bowl of cherries without any misfortune ever? We see this in the temporary economic pause as Trump prepares to ramp up economy. Even thought the stock market has lost only 3000 points since the beginning of the year, leftwing/atheists are in such misery right now. Doom and gloom always.
By saying that there is no God, you're saying there is no objective right or wrong. This is where you guys always checkmate yourselves.
So there is no evil in the world?
There is plenty of evil but the question is why, is it us or is it Satan's deceptions? There is also plenty of suffering (e.g., plagues, famines, wars, etc.) and again the question is why? Is mankind essentially all (the biblical) Job?
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Who told you that anybody thinks life is easy? The goal is to not make it unnecessarily hard. Changes can be made without causing senseless damage to those who can survive it the least.
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Where did you come up with that goofy remark? Did that come from your silly straw man?
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I think I understand where you are starting. It is with the expectation that God should be interfering with the physical part of our existence. Look back over your own life and experiences. Has God ever made a physical change in your life?
My faith begins with God created us with body, mind, and spirit. He gifted this life to us. It is my responsibility to take care of the body and mind portion of this life. God is on hand to help with the spiritual aspect. God is not a genii of our physical life/jurisdiction.
Who, specifically, built the circumstances that led to the death of this child? Is the short answer, "People"? Was it a physical act that lead to her death? If so, can people change what is physical to prevent the physical killing of yet more children? The physical world is our jurisdiction.
The tuna casserole was your idea, and when tuna casserole is the most you have to offer, then yes, give your most.
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