LA RAM FAN
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Could not have said it better myself,until now when it was pointed out,I was not aware this was an old thread,after all I wasn’t the one who brought it back from the grave,I only do thst with my OWN threads.why that poster brought this thread back to the top is beyond me ,you will have to ask himYes should withdraw from the Middle East entirely no sense in having troops over there. What are we protecting?We should withdraw (again) from Iraq too?Incredible the ignorant sheep that think we should stay in Syria,even more incredible that they are ignorant that the cia funds isisWell, it ties into the belief that we are carrying water for the rest of the world, and that's not an irrational belief.Trump Is Training His Base to Hate NATO and Like Putin
So Trump lovers got their panties all moist this week when they heard news of Trump seriously considering pulling out of NATO -- their general consensus was, "Fuck yea!! let's save that money and give it away in corporate tax cuts or directly to defense contractors!! #MAGA"
Is NATO really that much of a problem in the world? Or is pulling out of NATO more of a way to just feel like you are "owning the libs" on something? It seems that much of whatever Trump lovers support is mainly based on the fact they think it makes "libs" angry -- which is pathetic in itself.
As Trump himself said (from the article) "Sometimes our worst enemies are our so-called friends or allies, right?” At a subsequent rally in Montana last week, the president declared, “Our allies in many cases were worse than our enemies.” He then went on to say about his boo-thang Putin: "Putin is KGB.” (Putin did in fact work in the KGB.) “You know what,” he said, “Putin’s fine. He’s fine. We are all fine, we’re all people.”
Trump claims his opposition to NATO is based on money; but that is not how NATO works. It is not a protection scheme where the allies pay the United States. It is a collective defense organization in which members agree that an attack on one is an attack on all. NATO is the most successful peace-keeping franchise in world history; let's not forget that the norm for Europe before then was wars, wars, and more wars....It was only 20 yrs that separated WW1 from WW2; since NATO -- no more wars breaking out all across Europe; how is that a failure?
However, Trump's motives may be different, and withdrawing from Syria while Isis remains a threat is .... inexplicable.
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