Why Do You Trump Lovers Hate NATO So Much?

[LA RAM FAN]

Trump Is Training His Base to Hate NATO and Like Putin

So Trump lovers got their panties all moist this week when they heard news of Trump seriously considering pulling out of NATO -- their general consensus was, "Fuck yea!! let's save that money and give it away in corporate tax cuts or directly to defense contractors!! #MAGA"

Is NATO really that much of a problem in the world? Or is pulling out of NATO more of a way to just feel like you are "owning the libs" on something? It seems that much of whatever Trump lovers support is mainly based on the fact they think it makes "libs" angry -- which is pathetic in itself.

As Trump himself said (from the article) "Sometimes our worst enemies are our so-called friends or allies, right?” At a subsequent rally in Montana last week, the president declared, “Our allies in many cases were worse than our enemies.” He then went on to say about his boo-thang Putin: "Putin is KGB.” (Putin did in fact work in the KGB.) “You know what,” he said, “Putin’s fine. He’s fine. We are all fine, we’re all people.”

Trump claims his opposition to NATO is based on money; but that is not how NATO works. It is not a protection scheme where the allies pay the United States. It is a collective defense organization in which members agree that an attack on one is an attack on all. NATO is the most successful peace-keeping franchise in world history; let's not forget that the norm for Europe before then was wars, wars, and more wars....It was only 20 yrs that separated WW1 from WW2; since NATO -- no more wars breaking out all across Europe; how is that a failure?

Well, it ties into the belief that we are carrying water for the rest of the world, and that's not an irrational belief.

However, Trump's motives may be different, and withdrawing from Syria while Isis remains a threat is .... inexplicable.

Incredible the ignorant sheep that think we should stay in Syria,even more incredible that they are ignorant that the cia funds isis

We should withdraw (again) from Iraq too?

Yes should withdraw from the Middle East entirely no sense in having troops over there. What are we protecting?

Could not have said it better myself,until now when it was pointed out,I was not aware this was an old thread,after all I wasn’t the one who brought it back from the grave,I only do thst with my OWN threads.why that poster brought this thread back to the top is beyond me ,you will have to ask him

 

[WTH_Progs?]

NATO has too many PROG-nations seeking benefits on the U.S. dime, a welfare of sorts. Oh yeah, first I've heard of this OP. I'm positive this rests in your head only, likely because you like to bitch but you're short on material. Am I right?

 

[bripat9643]

Trump Is Training His Base to Hate NATO and Like Putin

So Trump lovers got their panties all moist this week when they heard news of Trump seriously considering pulling out of NATO -- their general consensus was, "Fuck yea!! let's save that money and give it away in corporate tax cuts or directly to defense contractors!! #MAGA"

Is NATO really that much of a problem in the world? Or is pulling out of NATO more of a way to just feel like you are "owning the libs" on something? It seems that much of whatever Trump lovers support is mainly based on the fact they think it makes "libs" angry -- which is pathetic in itself.

As Trump himself said (from the article) "Sometimes our worst enemies are our so-called friends or allies, right?” At a subsequent rally in Montana last week, the president declared, “Our allies in many cases were worse than our enemies.” He then went on to say about his boo-thang Putin: "Putin is KGB.” (Putin did in fact work in the KGB.) “You know what,” he said, “Putin’s fine. He’s fine. We are all fine, we’re all people.”

Trump claims his opposition to NATO is based on money; but that is not how NATO works. It is not a protection scheme where the allies pay the United States. It is a collective defense organization in which members agree that an attack on one is an attack on all. NATO is the most successful peace-keeping franchise in world history; let's not forget that the norm for Europe before then was wars, wars, and more wars....It was only 20 yrs that separated WW1 from WW2; since NATO -- no more wars breaking out all across Europe; how is that a failure?

We've always hated NATO. It's a welfare program for rich European welfare state.

 

[beautress]

Trump Is Training His Base to Hate NATO and Like Putin

So Trump lovers got their panties all moist this week when they heard news of Trump seriously considering pulling out of NATO -- their general consensus was, "Fuck yea!! let's save that money and give it away in corporate tax cuts or directly to defense contractors!! #MAGA"

Is NATO really that much of a problem in the world? Or is pulling out of NATO more of a way to just feel like you are "owning the libs" on something? It seems that much of whatever Trump lovers support is mainly based on the fact they think it makes "libs" angry -- which is pathetic in itself.

As Trump himself said (from the article) "Sometimes our worst enemies are our so-called friends or allies, right?” At a subsequent rally in Montana last week, the president declared, “Our allies in many cases were worse than our enemies.” He then went on to say about his boo-thang Putin: "Putin is KGB.” (Putin did in fact work in the KGB.) “You know what,” he said, “Putin’s fine. He’s fine. We are all fine, we’re all people.”

Trump claims his opposition to NATO is based on money; but that is not how NATO works. It is not a protection scheme where the allies pay the United States. It is a collective defense organization in which members agree that an attack on one is an attack on all. NATO is the most successful peace-keeping franchise in world history; let's not forget that the norm for Europe before then was wars, wars, and more wars....It was only 20 yrs that separated WW1 from WW2; since NATO -- no more wars breaking out all across Europe; how is that a failure?

The international problem with NATO is that our nation has been taken advantage of by unfriendly and friendly countries alike who want us to pay for everything whereas when it started all agreed to pay a fair share for security. Time for fairness. Period.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

NATO was not even an issue until Trump started running his stupid mouth.

NATO and the UN have always been an issue

 

[Lesh]

NATO and the UN have always been an issue

For Putin and people who support him

 

[Rogue AI]

Trump Is Training His Base to Hate NATO and Like Putin

So Trump lovers got their panties all moist this week when they heard news of Trump seriously considering pulling out of NATO -- their general consensus was, "Fuck yea!! let's save that money and give it away in corporate tax cuts or directly to defense contractors!! #MAGA"

Is NATO really that much of a problem in the world? Or is pulling out of NATO more of a way to just feel like you are "owning the libs" on something? It seems that much of whatever Trump lovers support is mainly based on the fact they think it makes "libs" angry -- which is pathetic in itself.

As Trump himself said (from the article) "Sometimes our worst enemies are our so-called friends or allies, right?” At a subsequent rally in Montana last week, the president declared, “Our allies in many cases were worse than our enemies.” He then went on to say about his boo-thang Putin: "Putin is KGB.” (Putin did in fact work in the KGB.) “You know what,” he said, “Putin’s fine. He’s fine. We are all fine, we’re all people.”

Trump claims his opposition to NATO is based on money; but that is not how NATO works. It is not a protection scheme where the allies pay the United States. It is a collective defense organization in which members agree that an attack on one is an attack on all. NATO is the most successful peace-keeping franchise in world history; let's not forget that the norm for Europe before then was wars, wars, and more wars....It was only 20 yrs that separated WW1 from WW2; since NATO -- no more wars breaking out all across Europe; how is that a failure?

Long before Trump, there was this dude named George Washington, he advised against long term foreign entanglements. Did liberals remove him from the history books or something?

 

[Dragonlady]

The international problem with NATO is that our nation has been taken advantage of by unfriendly and friendly countries alike who want us to pay for everything whereas when it started all agreed to pay a fair share for security. Time for fairness. Period.

That is simply not true. No one expected the US to pay for everything. Ever.

All NATO countries contribute to NATO but the United States of America spends more on military than any other country in the world because they want to not because anyone asked them to.

After World War II, the allies did not want Germany to be armed in any way shape or form having started two world wars in less than 50 years.

The only NATO country that has ever asked other NATO countries to come to its aid is the United States of America which asked NATO allies to come to its aid after 911.

Canada sent 40,000 troops to Afghanistan supporting the US actions there. We lost More than 150 lives there.

Donald Trump wanted to destroy NATO to help Putin and Russia and for no other reason.

Other NATO nations do not need to spend more money on defence. You need to spend less. A lot less.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Trump Is Training His Base to Hate NATO and Like Putin

So Trump lovers got their panties all moist this week when they heard news of Trump seriously considering pulling out of NATO -- their general consensus was, "Fuck yea!! let's save that money and give it away in corporate tax cuts or directly to defense contractors!! #MAGA"

Is NATO really that much of a problem in the world? Or is pulling out of NATO more of a way to just feel like you are "owning the libs" on something? It seems that much of whatever Trump lovers support is mainly based on the fact they think it makes "libs" angry -- which is pathetic in itself.

As Trump himself said (from the article) "Sometimes our worst enemies are our so-called friends or allies, right?” At a subsequent rally in Montana last week, the president declared, “Our allies in many cases were worse than our enemies.” He then went on to say about his boo-thang Putin: "Putin is KGB.” (Putin did in fact work in the KGB.) “You know what,” he said, “Putin’s fine. He’s fine. We are all fine, we’re all people.”

Trump claims his opposition to NATO is based on money; but that is not how NATO works. It is not a protection scheme where the allies pay the United States. It is a collective defense organization in which members agree that an attack on one is an attack on all. NATO is the most successful peace-keeping franchise in world history; let's not forget that the norm for Europe before then was wars, wars, and more wars....It was only 20 yrs that separated WW1 from WW2; since NATO -- no more wars breaking out all across Europe; how is that a failure?

Who else stopped reading at "like Putin"?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Who else stopped reading at "like Putin"?

/———/ I stopped reading at “Trump lovers got their panties all moist”. How can anyone take a poster seriously who feels compelled to start with stupid juvenile insults?

 

[zaangalewa]

The American taxpayer is having to fork over $20+ billion dollars per year to keep the U.S. military involved in NATO ...

Anti-Semite, how do you calculate this $20+ billion? The NATO has a household of about 1-2 billions and the USA pays only a part of this costs - relativelly (per inhabitant) much less than others pay. So you pay not more than a few hundred millions as a member of the NATO. Your military household last year had been 778 billions.

 

[zaangalewa]

Long before Trump, there was this dude named George Washington, he advised against long term foreign entanglements. Did liberals remove him from the history books or something?

Good grief. If you would take serios your own overaged laws then every state of the USA had to have an own army and an own army of the USA in total would be illegal.

 

[zaangalewa]

We've always hated NATO. It's a welfare program for rich European welfare state.

Bye bye USA. Go home. Be happy.

 

[zaangalewa]

Back in the day when eastern Europe was controlled by the Soviets,

What had been by the way the fault of the USA and their allies.

NATO had its place. I don't see why considering what role does NATO play in world today should be a partisan issue.

 

[zaangalewa]

Those bases aren't there for Europe, you do know that right?

We have bases in Japan, why? to protect Japan?

I guess on the same reason as here in Germany. To spy in every institution and company.

 

[Rogue AI]

Good grief. If you would take serios your own overaged laws then every state of the USA had to have an own army and an own army of the USA in total would be illegal.

That's simply false. See Article 1, Section 8.

 

[zaangalewa]

Wars in Europe, are a European problem...

First you took care that we Germans will die out - and now wars in Europe are suddenly an European problem? ... ... You are really a funny nation. We will miss you.

 

[zaangalewa]

That's simply false. See Article 1, Section 8.

I never discuss with US-Americans about their constitution. Your constitution is sacrosanct for you.

 

[Rogue AI]

I never discuss with US-Americans about their constitution. Your constitution is sacrosanct for you.

Doesn't make you less wrong.

 

[zaangalewa]

Yep
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Nuke it from orbit.

Your next step to do wars. Hopefully are no Taliban with nukes from Pakistan in the orbit.