Why do some Americans believe they single handedly won WW2?

[rightwinger]

Most advanced with grossly inferior tanks? The Germans had a more professional army. That's it. They were only superior in tactics.

Stalin killed his best generals and trusted his alliance with Hitler

France was militarily superior to Germany and they lasted a month

 

[sparky]

Soviet soldiers were liquored up and pointed in a direction

iirc, there was a lot of meth involved as well WW.....~S~

 

[westwall]

iirc, there was a lot of meth involved as well WW.....~S~

Mostly on the German side. That's how they were able to keep marching and fighting.

The US used it a little bit too.

 

[westwall]

Stalin killed his best generals and trusted his alliance with Hitler

France was militarily superior to Germany and they lasted a month

Stalin certainly murdered some of his best. But he had Koniev, and Rokossovsky, and a couple of others.

But ask yourself, why would a socialist leader murder his generals?

 

[Meathead]

Yes but what price Victory and the very survival of the Country?

Maybe half for the survival of Russia, the other half for the survival of Stalin.

 

[AZrailwhale]

So were other countries
After WWII, we were the only game in town

No, other countries were powers, but even in the mid-thirties the USA eclipsed them. The UK was a fading power, bankrupted by WWI, France was worse, Germany wasn't even in the running and the USSR was a train wreck.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Usual racist bullshit about Russia not valuing human life, Russians are like other humans why would they not value the life of their sons and Husbands and Mothers etc?

Russians did the Communist leadership did not.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The US drafted millions of soldiers. You were told to die for your country half a world away
Soviets were highly patriotic. They fought for their homeland. Their motivation was different

Their motivation was NKVD machine gun battalions behind the front-line troops. As Stalin said, "It takes a very brave man to be a coward in my army".

 

[22lcidw]

Good point

FDR invoked a Socialist system

This makes me think why the great depression lasted as long as it did. Somehow, we could produce weapons in manufacturing plants because of war and yet could not do the same to improve the economy with a fiat currency that caused the depression in the first place.

 

[Dr Grump]

They did in the Pacific.

Nope. They had the Australians and others. Indians, NZers, Papua New Guinea. US did most of the heavy lifting without a doubt.

 

[Meathead]

Nope. They had the Australians and others. Indians, NZers, Papua New Guinea. US did most of the heavy lifting without a doubt.

Oh puhleez.

 

[Dr Grump]

Oh puhleez.

It's disrespectful to belittle the contributions of others. I said the US did most of the heavy lifting. Learn some history and you'll find there was help. The Chinese as well. A lot of other Asian countries and their citizens died helping the US in the Pacific. If your ego is so big you need your country to take all the credit (even though you personally had NOTHING to do with it but love riding on the coat tails of your forebears), then be my guest. It makes you look small and petty. Are you small and petty?

 

[Deadstick]

Russians did the Communist leadership did not.

You could say that about any leadership.

 

[Meathead]

It's disrespectful to belittle the contributions of others. I said the US did most of the heavy lifting. Learn some history and you'll find there was help. The Chinese as well. A lot of other Asian countries and their citizens died helping the US in the Pacific. If your ego is so big you need your country to take all the credit (even though you personally had NOTHING to do with it but love riding on the coat tails of your forebears), then be my guest. It makes you look small and petty. Are you small and petty?

I'm not belittling anyone. Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea, Midway, Okinawa and finally Hiroshima and Nagasaki are how the America's war started and how Japan was defeated. All those were done while American soldiers fought the Nazis and helped win the war in Europe.

Get a life and learn a little for a change.

Now shoo!

 

[OneIsTheWord]

It seems to crop up quite a few times where posters claim everyone would be speaking German if the US hadn't won WW2.

Time for America to get over its WWII nostalgia

It was the nadir of human history, not a Saturday morning cartoon

theweek.com

There's nothing wrong with an interest in history. But the distorted and chauvinist way the war's history has been presented in the popular imagination is a major problem. It's long since time Americans adopted a more realistic and sensible attitude towards World War II.

The greatest error of historical fact in America's popular interpretation of the war is the idea that the United States won it pretty much single-handedly.

So despite actual history, do you still believe America single-handedly won WW2? Why? Is it something school taught you or your parents? Genuinely would like to know.

Interesting
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[Deadstick]

I'm not belittling anyone. Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea, Midway, Okinawa and finally Hiroshima and Nagasaki are how the war started and how Japan was defeated. All those were done while American soldiers fought the Nazis and helped win the war in Europe.

Get a life and learn a little for a change.

Now shoo!

Wonder how many Americans know about Task Force 57? my Uncle was part of it he served on HMS Victorious aircraft carrier as a 20mm Oerlekon gunner.

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[AZrailwhale]

Wonder how many Americans know about Task Force 57? my Uncle was part of it he served on HMS Victorious aircraft carrier as a 20mm Oerlekon gunner.

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TF 57 did very little towards the defeat of Japan. It was so insignificant that the USN replaced it with a task group of CVEs on the frequent occasions TF 57 pulled offline for replenishment. Most of TF 57s operations were against the secondary targets on Formosa and in the DEI.

 

[Meathead]

Wonder how many Americans know about Task Force 57? my Uncle was part of it he served on HMS Victorious aircraft carrier as a 20mm Oerlekon gunner.

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Yeah, the Brits decided they couldn't lose face and had to make an appearance in their former colonies being liberated by the US. And of course that was after Germany surrendered. The Brits foolishly sent, perhaps with the best of intentions, Repulse and Prince of Wales to their demise without aircover as sitting ducks to Japanese aircraft and then backed off until America made it safe enough to send their navy and the war in the Atlantic theater ended.

 

[Deadstick]

Yeah, the Brits decided they couldn't lose face and had to make an appearance in their former colonies being liberated by the US. And of course that was after Germany surrendered. The Brits foolishly sent, perhaps with the best of intentions, Repulse and Prince of Wales to their demise without aircover as sitting ducks to Japanese aircraft and then backed off until America made it safe enough to send their navy and the war in the Atlantic theater ended.

Then there was the Burma Campaign.

BBC - History - World Wars: The Burma Campaign 1941 - 1945

The 'forgotten war', by Michael Hickey

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Meathead]

Then there was the Burma Campaign.

BBC - History - World Wars: The Burma Campaign 1941 - 1945

The 'forgotten war', by Michael Hickey

www.bbc.co.uk

It was your colony ffs and definitely a sideshow of little consequence, besides which the "British" soldiers were Indians anyway.