Why do some Americans believe they single handedly won WW2?

[RetiredGySgt]

Battle of Britain - Wikipedia

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[rightwinger]

the German Airforce was not destroyed in the 1940 battle of Britain you retard.

They did lose air superiority and the ability to support an invasion

 

[RetiredGySgt]

They did lose air superiority and the ability to support an invasion

that's not what he claimed he claimed the German Airforce was DESTROYED

 

[Deadstick]

that's not what he claimed he claimed the German Airforce was DESTROYED

Destroyed over British airspace in the battle of Britain, i expected you to know what i was talking about,but they didn't destroy the Luftwaffe everywhere they operated, however by the time the battles in Normandy were finished the Luftwaffe were a shadow of their former self, hope that makes it clearer Gunny?

 

[rightwinger]

Destroyed over British airspace in the battle of Britain, i expected you to know what i was talking about,but they didn't destroy the Luftwaffe everywhere they operated, however by the time the battles in Normandy were finished the Luftwaffe were a shadow of their former self, hope that makes it clearer Gunny?

The mighty Luftwaffe was unable to detect the Normandy invasion

 

[WorldWatcher]

The mighty Luftwaffe was unable to detect the Normandy invasion

The German's knew the invasion was coming. The allies though deceived them into thinking the landing was going to be at Pas-de-Calais.

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[rightwinger]

The German's knew the invasion was coming. The allies though deceived them into thinking the landing was going to be at Pas-de-Calais.

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A powerful Luftwaffe would be attacking the landing as soon as it launched

 

[RetiredGySgt]

A powerful Luftwaffe would be attacking the landing as soon as it launched

by then the Luftwaffe was a shadow of its former self the majority of aircraft were defending Germany's industrial areas the force in France was tiny and not because of the battle of Britain.

 

[Deadstick]

The mighty Luftwaffe was unable to detect the Normandy invasion

The German army were annihilated in the falaise pocket because the allies dominated the air totally.

 

[meaner gene]

Yeah, NOWHERE did they get the power to take over companies. An essential element of socialism.

Instead of using brass for fancy lamps, that brass went to make bullets. Jewelry makers switched over to silver because it wasn't an essential metal. Etc.

Allowed for reorganization of government agencies and corporations as needed for wartime efficiency.

The government could "reorganize" corporations.

That's telling corporations what to do.

Like telling Fords automobile division to stop making cars, and instead start making planes.,
To tell Singer to stop making sewing machines, and start making guns.

The government turned the means of production into puppets, doing the will of the government.

 

[meaner gene]

You learn some History other than the crap from Hollywood, the RAF downed almost two thousand Luftwaffe aircraft so they didn't have command of the air and couldn't sustain that level of losses, i would call that pretty much destroyed.

Two thousand?

Read a little history

Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front are estimated to be around 25,000 aircraft by the end of the war,

Specific numbers vary, but German records show around 9,912 losses between 1941 and 1943,
March 1942 - December 1944: Approximately 18,400 aircraft were lost.

The Eastern Front was a massive commitment, involving large-scale air battles and ground support operations

The Eastern Front was a critical theater, and despite achieving initial air superiority, the Luftwaffe's sustained efforts there and on other fronts led to unsustainable losses and a gradual decline in operational strength.

Germany had to divert aircraft from the battle of Britain, to their other battles

 

[meaner gene]

A powerful Luftwaffe would be attacking the landing as soon as it launched

Half the Luftwaffe was busy on the eastern front, where they sustained heavy losses.

Luftwaffe losses on the Eastern Front

March 1942 - December 1944: Approximately 18,400 aircraft were lost.

1945: Roughly 4,000 aircraft were lost.

 

[rightwinger]

That is why I blame FDR for the nightmare called socialism.

You have no problem calling FDR a socialist because he instituted programs to help starving people during the depression.

Yet, when I point out the socialism of WWII when FDR took over all production you claim that is not socialism

 

[meaner gene]

That is why I blame FDR for the nightmare called socialism.

You have no problem calling FDR a socialist because he instituted programs to help starving people during the depression.

Yet, when I point out the socialism of WWII when FDR took over all production you claim that is not socialism

Schrodinger's socialism.

America was socialist under FDR, and America wasn't socialist under FDR.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No, it isn't. The government placed orders for weaponry from American companies. Those companies then filled the orders. At no time did the government take over those companies.

I think the only governmental built war plant was the Detroit Tank Arsenal. Even the massive Willow Run bomber plant was built by Ford, not the government.

You learn some History other than the crap from Hollywood, the RAF downed almost two thousand Luftwaffe aircraft so they didn't have command of the air and couldn't sustain that level of losses, i would call that pretty much destroyed.

Wrong as usual. Yes the RAF downed about 1,700 German aircraft in the BofB, but when Germany launched Barbarossa in June, seven months later, the Luftwaffe's strength was over five thousand combat aircraft, twice the number it started the BofB with. So the RAF didn't destroy the Luftwaffe over England.

 

[Deadstick]

I rethink the only governmental built war plant was the Detroit Tank Arsenal. Even the massive Willow Run bomber plant was built by Ford, not the government.

Wrong as usual. Yes the RAF downed about 1,700 German aircraft in the BofB, but when Germany launched Barbarossa in June, seven months later, the Luftwaffe's strength was over five thousand combat aircraft, twice the number it started the BofB with. So the RAF didn't destroy the Luftwaffe over England.

They did destroy the luftwaffe over England otherwise the Germans would have continued but they couldn't sustain the level of losses, give your head a shake.

 

[AZrailwhale]

They did lose air superiority and the ability to support an invasion

The Luftwaffe never had aerial superiority. They rarely had aerial parity. With Radar, the British could concentrate their fighters to meet raids.

 

[Deadstick]

The Luftwaffe never had aerial superiority. They rarely had aerial parity. With Radar, the British could concentrate their fighters to meet raids.

And they did just that.

 

[AZrailwhale]

They did destroy the luftwaffe over England otherwise the Germans would have continued but they couldn't sustain the level of losses, give your head a shake.

No, the Luftwaffe changed to night bombing to reduce losses and changed from attacking the radars and airfields to civilian targets to reduce its bomber casualties. Goering finally figured out that he couldn't suppress Fighter Command in order to establish aerial superiority over the invasion beaches. The danger of invasion as over as soon as the Luftwaffe shifted to bombing British cities.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Luftwaffe never had aerial superiority. They rarely had aerial parity. With Radar, the British could concentrate their fighters to meet raids.

The Germans screwed up they started the battle by attacking the airfields and were winning then Britain bombed Berlin and Hitler got stupid and switched to bombing cities.