Why do some Americans believe they single handedly won WW2?

[Deadstick]

Your constant whining about the Tories and Thatcher is not conducive to most threads. Trying to understand why many Americans believe it was them that won WW2 and all the allies were irrelevant.

Hollywood.

 

[Deadstick]

You are ignoring the ability of WAllied tacair to starve out German forces in France. More troops just means more gasoline, more food and more ammo would need to be transported by train and soft skinned transport that was easily destroyed by aircraft. Once the WAllies achieved aerial supremacy over France and aerial superiority over Germany, supplies could only move at night.
View attachment 1105501View attachment 1105500As it was, German vehicles resembled moving trees to avoid aerial attack.

The Falaise pocket comes to mind.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Accidental bombing of London and the RAF may as well have destroyed the Luftwaffe because by the time we had finished with them they couldn't fly a kite over England.

Yes, the first bombing of London was by a lost German aircraft; from HistoryHit.com: "The first major bombing raid against London’s civilian population was accidental. A German bomber overshot its original target, the docks, in thick fog. This showcased the inaccuracy of bombing in the early part of the war." The Luftwaffe was still launching daylight raids against England as late as June 1943. the so-call "tip-and-run" raids by jabos.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The Falaise pocket comes to mind.

Also HitlerJugend's movement to contact after D Day; "After the 9 July the Hitlerjunged Division is reduced its shadow, its members are reduced to the consistency of a battalion and only 65 tanks (on 150) are still able to fight."From Axis History: "In slightly over one month of combat, the HJ SS Panzer Grenadier Division had lost over 60 per cent of its forces due to combat actions. 20 per cent were killed and the rest of the 40 per cent were either wounded or MIA. "

 

[Deadstick]

Yes, the first bombing of London was by a lost German aircraft; from HistoryHit.com: "The first major bombing raid against London’s civilian population was accidental. A German bomber overshot its original target, the docks, in thick fog. This showcased the inaccuracy of bombing in the early part of the war." The Luftwaffe was still launching daylight raids against England as late as June 1943. the so-call "tip-and-run" raids by jabos.

My Mother was on the receiving end of German bombing in Manchester she lived in the City growing up.

 

[Deadstick]

Also HitlerJugend's movement to contact after D Day; "After the 9 July the Hitlerjunged Division is reduced its shadow, its members are reduced to the consistency of a battalion and only 65 tanks (on 150) are still able to fight."From Axis History: "In slightly over one month of combat, the HJ SS Panzer Grenadier Division had lost over 60 per cent of its forces due to combat actions. 20 per cent were killed and the rest of the 40 per cent were either wounded or MIA. "

The Canadians had several clashes with the 12th SS Hitler Jugend in Normandy, there was no love lost between them prisoners were not always taken.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Never lost a war for a thousand years -

 

[Mac-7]

It seems to crop up quite a few times where posters claim everyone would be speaking German if the US hadn't won WW2.

Time for America to get over its WWII nostalgia

It was the nadir of human history, not a Saturday morning cartoon

theweek.com

There's nothing wrong with an interest in history. But the distorted and chauvinist way the war's history has been presented in the popular imagination is a major problem. It's long since time Americans adopted a more realistic and sensible attitude towards World War II.

The greatest error of historical fact in America's popular interpretation of the war is the idea that the United States won it pretty much single-handedly.

So despite actual history, do you still believe America single-handedly won WW2? Why? Is it something school taught you or your parents? Genuinely would like to know.

Many recent public school graduates know absolutely nothing about WWII and could not care less

 

[Mac-7]

While it is likely that without US assistance WWII would have been lost by the allies, it is not true that the US did it alone. It was definitely a joint effort.

Yes, it was Britain’s finest hour

and Churchill was the greatest leader of WWII

The English soldiered on alone for 2 years while America slept

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes, it was Britain’s finest hour

and Churchill was the greatest leader of WWII

The English soldiered on alone for 2 years while America slept

The US did not sleep FDR took great risks by supplying England with munitions fuel and food and equipment and even took over submarine defense for half the Atlantic while we were not at war with Germany. The American population and voting public were isolationists and FDR worked tirelessly to change that as best he could.

Don't get me wrong I do not like FDR he sold us out the Stalin during the war but before that he did everything he could to get us active in the war.

 

[BothWings]

Russian involvement was the most critical element in defeating the Nazis. Western media has tried to downplay that fact since 1945.

 

[Mac-7]

The US did not sleep FDR took great risks by supplying England with munitions fuel and food and equipment and even took over submarine defense for half the Atlantic while we were not at war with Germany. The American population and voting public were isolationists and FDR worked tirelessly to change that as best he could.

Don't get me wrong I do not like FDR he sold us out the Stalin during the war but before that he did everything he could to get us active in the war.

I dont hate FDR

He was also a good wartime leader

But Churchill was the GOAT

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Russian involvement was the most critical element in defeating the Nazis. Western media has tried to downplay that fact since 1945.

The soviets were toast without US aid.

 

[Deadstick]

Many recent public school graduates know absolutely nothing about WWII and could not care less

That's the problem.

 

[Deadstick]

The soviets were toast without US aid.

 

[Deadstick]

The US did not sleep FDR took great risks by supplying England with munitions fuel and food and equipment and even took over submarine defense for half the Atlantic while we were not at war with Germany. The American population and voting public were isolationists and FDR worked tirelessly to change that as best he could.

Don't get me wrong I do not like FDR he sold us out the Stalin during the war but before that he did everything he could to get us active in the war.

Did you miss the fact Stalin was on our side in the War?

 

[Deadstick]

That's the problem.

Those students will have family members who fought in that war, one would think they would want to know about them, i became interested in my wartime family record from about the age of 12.

 

[westwall]

It's true. We gave the Soviets 600,000 trucks, millions of tons of food, fuel, munitions, and thousands of tanks and aircraft.

Were it not for us the Soviet military would have had nothing to fight with for about 8 months.

 

[westwall]

He was originally on Hitlers side when the

Did you miss the fact Stalin was on our side in the War?

War began. Or did you not learn that in school?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why are Brits such fags now if they were so badass back then? Hmm?
Our societies are not the same. Yours came from Feudal Lords and Monarchies and ours came from people that went out to the ass end of nowhere and built a thriving civilization with just tools, vision, and drive. We are not the same.
We told Brits to **** off over 200 years ago. And made them.
UK was responsible for the firebombing of Dresden, as I recall. Something tells me your Commie indoctrination in the UK schools left out a lot of the history we were taught. The schools have been commiefied in the UK since the late 1970s
grinding out compliant mushheads, of which you probably are one. I can't fix 12 years of indoctrination, sorry.
Brits did some fighting in N.Africa, too.

Brits have now openly embraced Fascism while surrendering to Islam