Why do so many liberal Jews support the antisemitic BDS movement?

[MinTrut]

Perhaps it is because they possess a moral conscience that precludes support for an apartheid regime that engages in ethnic cleansing.

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[Fort Fun Indiana]

First, before liberals rush in to claim that BDS is not anti-Jew but merely anti-Israel, know that BDS has indeed been recognized as an antisemitic movement. (Links below.)

Now, given that BDS provides an outlet for antisemites to express their Jew-hatred as well as actively promoting it, the question is: Why do liberal Jews support a major antisemitic movement?

My theory is they, like all liberals, divide people (as groups) into “oppressed” and “oppressors.” That is why you see liberals race in to defend blacks, gays, illegal aliens (and also go soft on criminals), all of whom they see oppressed. And so too with the Palestinians (who elected the terrorist Islamic group HAMAS to lead them). Then, on the other side, liberals oppose those they see as “oppressors” - successful business owners, white males, and Christians. Into this group they out Israelis - an advanced and successful group.

Therein lies the dilemma. Do liberals Jews march against their own people, advancing and supporting antisemitism, because a group of them are viewed - mostly by libersls - as oppressors? The answer is YES: their liberalism trumps their Judaism.

BDS Israel boycott group is anti-Semitic, says US

The pro-Palestinian movement rejects the move, saying it stands against "all forms of racism".

www.bbc.com

https://cdn.fedweb.org/fed-24/2/2019_IAN_AntiSemitism_One-Sheet_June_11_2019.pdf

Of course, those opposing BDS will label it as anti-semitic. But they love playing both sides. They love saying that any activism against the government of Israel is "anti-semitic". But then they also love insisting that Israel is NOT a Jewish state. While codifying right into the constitution that it exists for the self-determinism of Jews. That's their little shell game. It seems to fool a lot of people.

And they are cornered by their own theater. Can't come right out and rebrand Israel a secular state, because then they lose the leverage of framing every slight or criticism as "anti-semitism". Then the Israeli right wing party immediately loses the support of the fundamentalists within and without its borders.

 

[Kondor3]

First, before liberals rush in to claim that BDS is not anti-Jew but merely anti-Israel, know that BDS has indeed been recognized as an antisemitic movement. (Links below.)

Now, given that BDS provides an outlet for antisemites to express their Jew-hatred as well as actively promoting it, the question is: Why do liberal Jews support a major antisemitic movement?

My theory is they, like all liberals, divide people (as groups) into “oppressed” and “oppressors.” That is why you see liberals race in to defend blacks, gays, illegal aliens (and also go soft on criminals), all of whom they see oppressed. And so too with the Palestinians (who elected the terrorist Islamic group HAMAS to lead them). Then, on the other side, liberals oppose those they see as “oppressors” - successful business owners, white males, and Christians. Into this group they out Israelis - an advanced and successful group.

Therein lies the dilemma. Do liberals Jews march against their own people, advancing and supporting antisemitism, because a group of them are viewed - mostly by libersls - as oppressors? The answer is YES: their liberalism trumps their Judaism.

BDS Israel boycott group is anti-Semitic, says US

The pro-Palestinian movement rejects the move, saying it stands against "all forms of racism".

www.bbc.com

https://cdn.fedweb.org/fed-24/2/2019_IAN_AntiSemitism_One-Sheet_June_11_2019.pdf

Yes. Their Liberalism trumps their Judaism. They are safe within a Western democracy and have the luxury of disloyalty to their fellow coreligionists.

 

[irosie91]

BDS is neither anti-Jew nor anti-Israel.

Your premise is ludicrously flawed.

BDS is islamic warfare since the inception of islam------STARVATION
SIEGE. Back in the day-----the late 1940s----the islamo nazis developed
their strategy against ISRAEL----to wit STARVE THEM TO DEATH---nothing
new-------does anyone out there wonder why the Persian zoroastrians managed to survive only by escaping to BOMBAY INDIA when India was hopelessly
backward itself. Anyone out there remember circa 1970 when more than
a million christian Nigerian babies lay dead in the dust of an IMPOSED
famine?. Anyone out there remember circa 1970 when East Pakistanis
stumbled out of that land desperate to reach Calcutta------lay dead in the dust
because east pakistani muslims blocked aid?. I have touched very lightly on
the history of STARVATION SIEGE ----the islamic answer to GLORIOUS ISLAMIC CONQUEST

 

[john doe 101]

First, before liberals rush in to claim that BDS is not anti-Jew but merely anti-Israel, know that BDS has indeed been recognized as an antisemitic movement. (Links below.)

Now, given that BDS provides an outlet for antisemites to express their Jew-hatred as well as actively promoting it, the question is: Why do liberal Jews support a major antisemitic movement?

My theory is they, like all liberals, divide people (as groups) into “oppressed” and “oppressors.” That is why you see liberals race in to defend blacks, gays, illegal aliens (and also go soft on criminals), all of whom they see oppressed. And so too with the Palestinians (who elected the terrorist Islamic group HAMAS to lead them). Then, on the other side, liberals oppose those they see as “oppressors” - successful business owners, white males, and Christians. Into this group they out Israelis - an advanced and successful group.

Therein lies the dilemma. Do liberals Jews march against their own people, advancing and supporting antisemitism, because a group of them are viewed - mostly by libersls - as oppressors? The answer is YES: their liberalism trumps their Judaism.

BDS Israel boycott group is anti-Semitic, says US

The pro-Palestinian movement rejects the move, saying it stands against "all forms of racism".

www.bbc.com

https://cdn.fedweb.org/fed-24/2/2019_IAN_AntiSemitism_One-Sheet_June_11_2019.pdf

You ever stop to consider your dumb fucking theory is wrong?

 

[JWBooth]

Here -- learn a little something, antisemite. There were Jewish settlements in Gaza from before the time a warlord invented Islam and dozens of centuries before the time an artificial people called "Palestinian" were invented. Nowadays, there are exactly 0 Jews left in Gaza. I have to give credit where credit is due, though. If there is one thing that Arabs have really perfected it is of this ethnic clensing of which you falsely accuse Jews.

History of Jewish Settlements in Gaza

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

AntiSemite, the same tired tripe used to attempt to stifle any negative view regarding zionism. Bullshit artists toss it out regularly because they have nothing.
Gaza, either there was a diaspora under the Romans or there wasn't.
If not, then the ashkenazi haven't much to claim as to re-establishing a homeland their ancestors never left.
The trope that Palestine was a land without a people is often one of the favorites of your line of discussion, though Ben-Gurion admitted more than once that this wasn't true.
The actual practicing, native Jews, those that can trace their genealogy back to the tribes - the Orthodox reject Zionism, ever look into why?

 

[irosie91]

AntiSemite, the same tired tripe used to attempt to stifle any negative view regarding zionism. Bullshit artists toss it out regularly because they have nothing.
Gaza, either there was a diaspora under the Romans or there wasn't.
If not, then the ashkenazi haven't much to claim as to re-establishing a homeland their ancestors never left.
The trope that Palestine was a land without a people is often one of the favorites of your line of discussion, though Ben-Gurion admitted more than once that this wasn't true.
The actual practicing, native Jews, those that can trace their genealogy back to the tribes - the Orthodox reject Zionism, ever look into why?

another reconstructionist islamo nazi meme. (for the record----a tiny minority of the orthodox reject the concept of "POLITICAL ZIONISM" because it does not advocate theocracy

 

[Dogmaphobe]

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AntiSemite, the same tired tripe used to attempt to stifle any negative view regarding zionism. Bullshit artists toss it out regularly because they have nothing.
Gaza, either there was a diaspora under the Romans or there wasn't.
If not, then the ashkenazi haven't much to claim as to re-establishing a homeland their ancestors never left.
The trope that Palestine was a land without a people is often one of the favorites of your line of discussion, though Ben-Gurion admitted more than once that this wasn't true.
The actual practicing, native Jews, those that can trace their genealogy back to the tribes - the Orthodox reject Zionism, ever look into why?

Typical antisemite - refer to the Netureri Karta , a tiny group of fringe radicals, and ignore the other 99.5 percent.

Zionism refers to the movement to establish self determination for the Jewish people. You select Jews as the one people in the world who should not be allowed any self determination. You are an antisemite.

 

[Lisa558]

BDS is neither anti-Jew nor anti-Israel.

Your premise is ludicrously flawed.

Except that our own government has acknowledged it is antisemitic. Even the German government says it is antisemitic.

Germany designates BDS Israel boycott movement as anti-Semitic

The German parliament voted on Friday to condemn as anti-Semitic a movement that calls for economic pressure on Israel to end the occupation of Palestinian land, grant Arab citizens equal rights and recognise the right of return of Palestinian refugees.

www.reuters.com

It is ironic that liberals, who claim every little thing is racist against blacks (math is racist! Gifted programs are racist!) work so hard to defend a movement that yells “Get out Jews!” and sees antiSemitic attacks on campuses with BDS advancing its Jew-hate. The tolerance for antisemitism on the left is chilling, especially when juxtaposed against theor purported intolerance of prejudice and bigotry.

Where is the outrage for the way Muslims have treated Jews, expelling nearly 1 million from their homes in Arab lands? Why is the claim of “ethnic cleansing” not levied against the Arabs? (And in the case of Arab lands, it’s true - thriving Jewish communities in the Middle East are now Judenfree.)


The double standards are blinding.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Except that our own government has acknowledged it is antisemitic.

So what? Presenting an agreeable opinion is not support of that opinion.

And your comments are especially hilarious and ironic, in light of your constant warnings not to trust our government. It's almost like you are full of shit half the time. Or is it 100% of the time?

 

[Indeependent]

First, before liberals rush in to claim that BDS is not anti-Jew but merely anti-Israel, know that BDS has indeed been recognized as an antisemitic movement. (Links below.)

Now, given that BDS provides an outlet for antisemites to express their Jew-hatred as well as actively promoting it, the question is: Why do liberal Jews support a major antisemitic movement?

My theory is they, like all liberals, divide people (as groups) into “oppressed” and “oppressors.” That is why you see liberals race in to defend blacks, gays, illegal aliens (and also go soft on criminals), all of whom they see oppressed. And so too with the Palestinians (who elected the terrorist Islamic group HAMAS to lead them). Then, on the other side, liberals oppose those they see as “oppressors” - successful business owners, white males, and Christians. Into this group they out Israelis - an advanced and successful group.

Therein lies the dilemma. Do liberals Jews march against their own people, advancing and supporting antisemitism, because a group of them are viewed - mostly by libersls - as oppressors? The answer is YES: their liberalism trumps their Judaism.

BDS Israel boycott group is anti-Semitic, says US

The pro-Palestinian movement rejects the move, saying it stands against "all forms of racism".

www.bbc.com

https://cdn.fedweb.org/fed-24/2/2019_IAN_AntiSemitism_One-Sheet_June_11_2019.pdf

The same Jews that claim they support BDS send money to Israel.
They are afraid of having their neighborhoods vandalized.
Liberal Jews are incredibly racist.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

So what? Presenting an agreeable opinion is not support of that opinion.

And your comments are especially hilarious and ironic, in light of your constant warnings not to trust our government. It's almost like you are full of shit half the time. Or is it 100% of the time?

BDS works directly with Hamas groups and Hamas vows the genocide of Jews.

A person would have to be incredibly stupid and dishonest to call this anything but antisemitic.

 

[irosie91]

The same Jews that claim they support BDS send money to Israel.
They are afraid of having their neighborhoods vandalized.
Liberal Jews are incredibly racist.

I came of age in the 1960s.-----guess which college. There are jews
in the world who will "SUPPORT" any popular "liberal cause" no matter
how idiotic. ( I am not innocent of this personality defect) Guess which
city went up in smoke (amongst others) during the 1960s----my college
town at the time. Lots of professors in the Sociology Department of my
colleges (during the 60s) were jews-------AMONGST THE MOST IDIOTIC

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

BDS works directly with Hamas groups and Hamas vows the genocide of Jews.

Okay. But the ideas that underpin it are accepted by many who are neither anti-Semitic, nor terrorists. So using your fact as a muzzle or to discount discussion of the ideas is dishonest.

 

[Lisa558]

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Typical antisemite - refer to the Netureri Karta , a tiny group of fringe radicals, and ignore the other 99.5 percent.

Zionism refers to the movement to establish self determination for the Jewish people. You select Jews as the one people in the world who should not be allowed any self determination. You are an antisemite.

Yes. And just look at all the Muslim countries that have 99% or more Muslims! There are 20 countries that are 95% or more. Yet, for some reason, there is a major effort to deny Jews - who have been subjected the horrific persecution for 2000 years - one tiny little country of their own.

Countries Compared by Religion > Islam > Percentage Muslim. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

Percent of Muslims in each country.

www.nationmaster.com

 

[irosie91]

Okay. But the ideas that underpin it are accepted by many who are neither anti-Semitic, nor terrorists. So using your fact as a muzzle or to discount discussion of the ideas is dishonest.

.......the ideas that underpin it are accepted by many....." EXCELLENT
ASSERTION----APPLICABLE to the underpinnings of every GENOCIDE
IN HISTORY

 

[Lisa558]

Okay. But the ideas that underpin it are accepted by many who are neither anti-Semitic, nor terrorists. So using your fact as a muzzle or to discount discussion of the ideas is dishonest.

The point is that Jews are working with a large movement, intent in delegitimizing Israel, that coordinates efforts with the very Islamic terrorist group, HAMAS, that is seeking to drive Israel, and all its Jews, out to sea.

Why so tolerant? Why are Jewish liberals partnering, even indirectly, with the antisemitic HAMAS terrorists? Would any self-respecting black person support a group that partnered with the KKK because they have end goals in common (one of which would be to destroy blacks)?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

.......the ideas that underpin it are accepted by many....." EXCELLENT
ASSERTION----APPLICABLE to the underpinnings of every GENOCIDE
IN HISTORY

But you just demonstrated my point. Your are a fool to blame the ideas for that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The point is that Jews are working with a large movement, intent in delegitimizing Israel, that coordinates efforts with the very Islamic terrorist group, HAMAS, that is seeking to drive Israel, and all its Jews, out to sea.

That is paranoid fantasy. I can't reason with someone who easily believes such embarrassing nonsense.

 

[irosie91]

But you just demonstrated my point. Your are a fool to blame the ideas for that.

your comment makes no sense at all