Why Do So Many Hardcore Racists Deny It When Called Out?

[toobfreak]

I don't get it. So many die hard racist have engaged id, currently engage in and will engage in racist rhetoric and behavior, but when called out, always seem to slink away from it.

Why? Aren't they supposed to be proud of their stance? They should be proud.

I see it right here on USMB practically every day I post. Why hold a position that you're ashamed to stand by publicly?

Anyone have any thoughts on this phenomenon?

How did you feel when Hillary called you a "super predator", or when Bill Clinton said a few years ago Obama would be fetching the Clintons bags?

Your response warrants my DEFLECTION imagine.

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[toobfreak]

You mean like you do?

The new racism is to deny the existence of racism and then accuse those who call you out on your racism ….racists - even us white people. You motorically .claim the we hate our own race That is how stupid and despicable, dishonest and idiotic you people are. It's not so easy to get away with blatant, obvious racism anymore so you resort to dog whistle rhetoric and other tactics that you know will get your message across to your ilk while giving you-what you think is- plausible deniability- but it is not at all plausible. It is painfully obvious.

What would happen to you, if you started to just assume that every republican or conservative, who told you he was not racist,


was not racist?


What would that mean to your life or world view?

If you have to tell people that you are not a racist, you probobly are a racist. My world view has nothing to do with it. I judge individuals by their words and deeds

I asked a simple and serious question.


Are you unable to answer it? Are you afraid to answer it?



What would happen to you, if you started to just assume that every republican or conservative, who told you he was not racist,


was not racist?

I did answer it. You are just able to comprehend my answer.

No I just think it was your incomprehensible non-answer that was the problem.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

A white person speaking about whites as a group, and with concern for their interests, is not racism.


THAT IS THE POINT.


You are the one holding whites to a different standard than you hold yourself or other lefties too.


That is why you see racism everywhere. Because you misidentify vast segments of normalcy as racism.

When he said that offensive remark about Mexicans having calves the size of cantelopes, was that one of the examples of Steve King not being a racist and merely "concerned with the interests of white people" that you were talking about?

If you were serious about wanting to discuss it, you should have included a link where it was shown in context.

Hey dude!! How dishonest can you be. You know damned well what King has said. Remember tis thread that you participated in. ? You don't need anymore .. I posted plenty for you Batshit Crazy Republicans Part 1: The Despicable Rep.Steven King

I did not see that quote in that article. There is a limit to how much shit I can wade though. I dont' think I even clicked on the huffington post link, for obvious reasons.

Note how quickly you ASSUMED I was being dishonest, when I just didn't click on your link.


What other assumptions do you make, that are wrong?

For obvious reasons ???? OK, maybe not dishonest.....how about lazy then?

 

[Unkotare]

I don't get it. So many die hard racist have engaged id, currently engage in and will engage in racist rhetoric and behavior, but when called out, always seem to slink away from it.

Why? Aren't they supposed to be proud of their stance? They should be proud....

You'd have to ask im2 and asslickus why they do that.

 

[Pogo]

I'm sure that can all be looked up but it has zero to do with the post quoted.

It can be looked up very easily.


And it says something about Georgia, as deep south as you can get, that his flipping on race, did not hurt him politically.


Did you know about that? Is that not surprising to you?

No I did not know about that, since Wallace was from, and governed, Alabama. So yeah that is kind of surprising. Didn't know you could be governor of two different states.

Opps. Got it wrong.


My point about his election stands. Is that not interesting to you?

No. The post had nothing to do with "elections". It had to do with the other poster's characterization of George C. Wallace as a "liberal".While never having lived in Alabama I understand he did reverse his racist sentiments later in life, but the fact that he had to be dragged to that point screaming and kicking illustrates that he was ultra-conservative.

In fact why don't we go to some quotes from Wallace himself...

"I am a conservative. I intend to give the American people a clear choice. I welcome a fight between our philosophy and the liberal left-wing dogma which now threatens to engulf every man, woman, and child in the United States. I am in this race because I believe the American people have been pushed around long enough and that they, like you and I, are fed up with the continuing trend toward a socialist state which now subjects the individual to the dictates of an all-powerful central government." (1964, the year he offered to be Barry Goldwater's running mate)

"I am having nothing to do with enforcing a law that will destroy the rights of private property. I am having nothing to do with enforcing a law that destroys your right --and my right -- to choose my neighbors -- or to sell my house to whomever I choose. I am having nothing to do with enforcing a law that destroys the labor seniority system. I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it." (also 1964, whining about LBJ's Civil Rights Act signed two days before

Source: Wikiquote

it is not interesting to you that the most iconic segregationist, renounced segregation, sought and received forgiveness from blacks, and despite that, won a statewide election in one of the Deep South states, several decades ago?


His base by the way, remained the backwater, rural white voters, whom according to the modern conventional wisdom, are the most evul and racist of this, our evul and racist nation.


Seriously?

Once AGAIN "whether I find it interesting" how George Wallace got elected in 1982 is STILL irrelevant to the previous poster's whining that Wallace was a "Liberal racist", itself an oxymoron.

Specifically he posted, quote:

Personally, I think its due to the fact that its been almost50 years since the Liberals openly said they were racist. I remember when liberal leaders like George C. Wallace were advocating to send the black people back to Africa in 1968. Those days are gone,our lib friends have really gone to other ideas. But even back then, Wallace never said he was a racist, even when he was advocating deportation of African Americans.

You'll note that "50 years" and "1968" do not correspond to "1982".

I'm sure George Wallace appreciates your bringing out that part of his legacy and perhaps we'll explore it somewhere where it's relevant. But here you seem to be trying to change the subject to wash away an errant point that you didn't make in the first place.

 

[Shrimpbox]

I don't get it. So many die hard racist have engaged id, currently engage in and will engage in racist rhetoric and behavior, but when called out, always seem to slink away from it.

Why? Aren't they supposed to be proud of their stance? They should be proud.

I see it right here on USMB practically every day I post. Why hold a position that you're ashamed to stand by publicly?

Anyone have any thoughts on this phenomenon?

No what people are against is someone like yourself being judge, jury, and executioner. Or the idiocy of you are a racist and you don’t even know it but I do.

 

[Pogo]

I don't get it. So many die hard racist have engaged id, currently engage in and will engage in racist rhetoric and behavior, but when called out, always seem to slink away from it.

Why? Aren't they supposed to be proud of their stance? They should be proud.

I see it right here on USMB practically every day I post. Why hold a position that you're ashamed to stand by publicly?

Anyone have any thoughts on this phenomenon?

How did you feel when Hillary called you a "super predator", or when Bill Clinton said a few years ago Obama would be fetching the Clintons bags?

Your response warrants my DEFLECTION imagine.

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WATCH OUT FRANK! This is another one of Marc's attempts at thinking he is being CLEVER!

Actually Frank just invoked Pogo's Law there so I'll be taking that nickel, thank you very much.

 

[Unkotare]

Because what you consider "racist" is not really "racist".


THe people you are referring to, are just people that disagree with your insane lefty agenda, that does not make them racist.



YOu are an asshole for smearing good people with that slur.

Why did Steve King deny it then? When he has a history of making blatantly racist remarks and spewing blatantly racist rhetoric.

I guess some racists may really not realize what they are doing because they have internalized their racism to such a degree that it is just like breathing to them.

 

[Crepitus]

Sadly (for you) that isn't what happens usually.

What would change for you, if you were to just start accepting at face value, ever republican or conservative, who said he was not racist?

Republicans are well known liars.

I would be knowingly allowing myself to be deceived.

YOur personal opinion on that is noted.

But what would change for you? Would you have to start supporting President Trump? Would you be unable to argue against policies, that you disagree with ?

Knowingly allowing yourself to be decieved is bad, it can lead to incorrect decisions and bad choices.

You kids should know, you support tRump.

1. Name one decision you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

2. Name one choice you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

Haven't done it so I can't really tell you. It's possible I might believe other republican lies if I start deceiving myself.

 

[Correll]

You mean like you do?

The new racism is to deny the existence of racism and then accuse those who call you out on your racism ….racists - even us white people. You motorically .claim the we hate our own race That is how stupid and despicable, dishonest and idiotic you people are. It's not so easy to get away with blatant, obvious racism anymore so you resort to dog whistle rhetoric and other tactics that you know will get your message across to your ilk while giving you-what you think is- plausible deniability- but it is not at all plausible. It is painfully obvious.

What would happen to you, if you started to just assume that every republican or conservative, who told you he was not racist,


was not racist?


What would that mean to your life or world view?

If you have to tell people that you are not a racist, you probobly are a racist. My world view has nothing to do with it. I judge individuals by their words and deeds

I asked a simple and serious question.


Are you unable to answer it? Are you afraid to answer it?



What would happen to you, if you started to just assume that every republican or conservative, who told you he was not racist,


was not racist?

I did answer it. You are just able to comprehend my answer.

I just reread it, I saw no answer. Please try again.



What would happen to you, if you started to just assume that every republican or conservative, who told you he was not racist,


was not racist?

 

[Correll]

A white person speaking about whites as a group, and with concern for their interests, is not racism.


THAT IS THE POINT.


You are the one holding whites to a different standard than you hold yourself or other lefties too.


That is why you see racism everywhere. Because you misidentify vast segments of normalcy as racism.

When he said that offensive remark about Mexicans having calves the size of cantelopes, was that one of the examples of Steve King not being a racist and merely "concerned with the interests of white people" that you were talking about?

If you were serious about wanting to discuss it, you should have included a link where it was shown in context.

Hey dude!! How dishonest can you be. You know damned well what King has said. Remember tis thread that you participated in. ? You don't need anymore .. I posted plenty for you Batshit Crazy Republicans Part 1: The Despicable Rep.Steven King

I did not see that quote in that article. There is a limit to how much shit I can wade though. I dont' think I even clicked on the huffington post link, for obvious reasons.

Note how quickly you ASSUMED I was being dishonest, when I just didn't click on your link.


What other assumptions do you make, that are wrong?

For obvious reasons ???? OK, maybe not dishonest.....how about lazy then?

No. It is not laziness. There is just a limit to how much partisan shit I can deal with.


But really, consider how quick you jumped to a conclusion, and how wrong you were.

 

[Correll]

What would change for you, if you were to just start accepting at face value, ever republican or conservative, who said he was not racist?

Republicans are well known liars.

I would be knowingly allowing myself to be deceived.

YOur personal opinion on that is noted.

But what would change for you? Would you have to start supporting President Trump? Would you be unable to argue against policies, that you disagree with ?

Knowingly allowing yourself to be decieved is bad, it can lead to incorrect decisions and bad choices.

You kids should know, you support tRump.

1. Name one decision you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

2. Name one choice you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

Haven't done it so I can't really tell you. It's possible I might believe other republican lies if I start deceiving myself.

Sure you can. Pretend for one minute, that you believe all the republican denials of racism, and ask yourself, what if anything that changes for you.


Would that lead to you support lower taxes on the rich? Would it lead you to oppose "Freedom of CHoice"?


Is there any belief or position you hold that is based solely on your belief in Republican racism?

 

[Crepitus]

Republicans are well known liars.

I would be knowingly allowing myself to be deceived.

YOur personal opinion on that is noted.

But what would change for you? Would you have to start supporting President Trump? Would you be unable to argue against policies, that you disagree with ?

Knowingly allowing yourself to be decieved is bad, it can lead to incorrect decisions and bad choices.

You kids should know, you support tRump.

1. Name one decision you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

2. Name one choice you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

Haven't done it so I can't really tell you. It's possible I might believe other republican lies if I start deceiving myself.

Sure you can. Pretend for one minute, that you believe all the republican denials of racism, and ask yourself, what if anything that changes for you.


Would that lead to you support lower taxes on the rich? Would it lead you to oppose "Freedom of CHoice"?


Is there any belief or position you hold that is based solely on your belief in Republican racism?

I already told you.

Stop building staw men and move on.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I dont hate you because you're black,I hate you because you're a race pimp stirring up racial division.
Just like your buddy barry.

 

[Correll]

YOur personal opinion on that is noted.

But what would change for you? Would you have to start supporting President Trump? Would you be unable to argue against policies, that you disagree with ?

Knowingly allowing yourself to be decieved is bad, it can lead to incorrect decisions and bad choices.

You kids should know, you support tRump.

1. Name one decision you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

2. Name one choice you would make differently, if you decided to believe a republican denial of racism.

Haven't done it so I can't really tell you. It's possible I might believe other republican lies if I start deceiving myself.

Sure you can. Pretend for one minute, that you believe all the republican denials of racism, and ask yourself, what if anything that changes for you.


Would that lead to you support lower taxes on the rich? Would it lead you to oppose "Freedom of CHoice"?


Is there any belief or position you hold that is based solely on your belief in Republican racism?

I already told you.

Stop building staw men and move on.

No, you explained why you could not answer.


This is not a strawman. I am not claiming what you believe. I am asking your a question.


I asked you to try.


Pretend for one minute, that you believe all the republican denials of racism, and ask yourself, what if anything that changes for you.


Would that lead to you support lower taxes on the rich? Would it lead you to oppose "Freedom of CHoice"?


Is there any belief or position you hold that is based solely on your belief in Republican racism?

 

[August West]

I don't get it. So many die hard racist have engaged id, currently engage in and will engage in racist rhetoric and behavior, but when called out, always seem to slink away from it.

Why? Aren't they supposed to be proud of their stance? They should be proud.

I see it right here on USMB practically every day I post. Why hold a position that you're ashamed to stand by publicly?

Anyone have any thoughts on this phenomenon?

I`m really amused when they blame Obama for their racism. "He was divisive " they tell us.

 

[Polishprince]

The thing that is irritating is that many libs call conservatives "racist" in order to deflect from the original argument, whatever it is- The Wall, the Iran deal, O'Care, etc.

Libs can't argue policy, so they instead say that "Trump is literally Hitler" and that makes his supporters literally nazis and can be dismissed without addressing the issue at all.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

While racism is real it's a very small portion of society that takes part in it.
I have regular contact with black people and I've never had a problem interacting with them...

Although I did refer to the dude who I hired to have my house painted a ni**ger,pretty sure he was from Nigeria,Not to his face of course since thats racially insensitive and would hurt my chances in court if we go there.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't get it. So many die hard racist have engaged id, currently engage in and will engage in racist rhetoric and behavior, but when called out, always seem to slink away from it.

Why? Aren't they supposed to be proud of their stance? They should be proud.

I see it right here on USMB practically every day I post. Why hold a position that you're ashamed to stand by publicly?

Anyone have any thoughts on this phenomenon?

I dont't know perhaps you can explain why you as a racist claim other wise? Ask ass lips to explain himself too and IM2.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

When he said that offensive remark about Mexicans having calves the size of cantelopes, was that one of the examples of Steve King not being a racist and merely "concerned with the interests of white people" that you were talking about?

If you were serious about wanting to discuss it, you should have included a link where it was shown in context.

Hey dude!! How dishonest can you be. You know damned well what King has said. Remember tis thread that you participated in. ? You don't need anymore .. I posted plenty for you Batshit Crazy Republicans Part 1: The Despicable Rep.Steven King

I did not see that quote in that article. There is a limit to how much shit I can wade though. I dont' think I even clicked on the huffington post link, for obvious reasons.

Note how quickly you ASSUMED I was being dishonest, when I just didn't click on your link.


What other assumptions do you make, that are wrong?

For obvious reasons ???? OK, maybe not dishonest.....how about lazy then?

No. It is not laziness. There is just a limit to how much partisan shit I can deal with.


But really, consider how quick you jumped to a conclusion, and how wrong you were.

Please explian how I'm wrong. Take your time. You'll need it,