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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/d...RaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, http://www.timwise.org/1998/09/is-s...women-and-the-rollback-of-affirmative-action/

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, https://progressive.org/dispatches/how-african-american-wwii-veterans-were-scorned-by-the-g-i-b/

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, https://www.africaw.com/africans-did-not-sell-their-own-people-into-slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/beyond-trafficking-and-slavery/irish-slaves-convenient-myth/

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? https://thecorrespondent.com/5185/how-do-you-become-white-in-america/1466577856645-8260d4a7

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” http://abolition.nypl.org/essays/african_resistance

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, http://www.cjcj.org/news/6523

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/opinion/charles-blow-black-dads-are-doing-the-best-of-all.html

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
 

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Tons of options have been given to blacks over the decades. They refuse them, call them "racist" because they don't want to have to WORK to get a paycheck. They'd rather sit on their asses popping out welfare babies and overpopulating the ghettos even MORE!!
 

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” Home - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, http://www.cjcj.org/news/6523

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/opinion/charles-blow-black-dads-are-doing-the-best-of-all.html

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
Why do you need the white man to find solutions for your problems?

I don't know why I bother with racists like you, but I am genuinely curious.

Solve your own problems and do it without breaking any laws or harming other citizens.
 

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/d...RaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” Home - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (Published 2015)

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html



And you think racist, whiney bitches, like you, do?

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” Home - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (Published 2015)

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, A Tale of Two Fathers

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
Get jobs. stop spawning bastard kids and stop killing each other. That wold be a start.
 

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Tons of options have been given to blacks over the decades. They refuse them, call them "racist" because they don't want to have to WORK to get a paycheck. They'd rather sit on their asses popping out welfare babies and overpopulating the ghettos even MORE!!


And they can emigrate as well. An option open to all blacks since 1865. Yet blacks keep immigrating to America.
 

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Do left wing blacks have any solution to offer whites? Especially regarding the war against white people coming from democrats, media and entertainment?
 

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” Home - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (Published 2015)

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, A Tale of Two Fathers

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
wow,that's a butt-load of liberal talking points abd propaganda.

Democrats and snowflakes are freaking out because Blacks and Latinos are running as fast as they can from the Democratic Party. They have heard the eloquent speeches whe watching the hypocritical, destructive extremist actions.

Actions speak louder than your words, and minorities are fed up with the criminal, old, corrupt, criminal, treasonous white elitists extremists running the Democrat Party & want no part of it any longer.
 

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IM2, thank you for taking the time to put down your thoughts on these matters. I have read most of it and will go through it more closely later today.

But there is one rebuttal that you cannot deny - you just ignore it. There are MILLIONS of Blacks who are thriving in this country. Mainly, they are people who play by the rules. They go to school and do their best, they take advantage of as many and as much of the benefits that our society provides, especially to those who are BIPOC's. They do not have children before they are married, and in fact many of them (one might say too many of them) decline to have kids, for whatever reason.

If Racism is the obstacle that you describe, how do you explain all of the success? And I'm not talking about TOKENS like Kammy Harris, I'm talking about Black men and women who have made it, either through entrepreneurship, or corporate success, or availing themselves of the countless opportunities in Government and the military. Don't these successful people know how hopeless it is?

Inquiring minds want to know.
 

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...and another thing: Deprivation does not last more than a generation. My father was raised in an orphanage because HIS father abandoned the family in 1921, leaving my sainted Grandmother with three young boys to feed - before the days of welfare, food stamps, or subsidized anything. She worked as a cook in the home of a wealthy family, and my dad stayed in the orphanage until the MINUTE he could go to work full-time, as a HS freshman, when he dropped out to work.

None of this meant anything to me. My dad left me nothing but warm feelings. He never helped me financially because he had very little and had four other kids, so he just could not afford to take care of any one of us in that way.

So what? I was not deprived. I paid for my education largely with the GI Bill (which is available to everyone), financed my first house with a VA loan, and paid my way through law school. Where the fuck was my privilege? I must have misplaced it somewhere along the line.
 

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” http://abolition.nypl.org/essays/african_resistance

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, http://www.cjcj.org/news/6523

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/opinion/charles-blow-black-dads-are-doing-the-best-of-all.html

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
So what can be done at a local, state, or national level?
 

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” Home - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, http://www.cjcj.org/news/6523

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/opinion/charles-blow-black-dads-are-doing-the-best-of-all.html

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
Yup. The arguments themselves are underpinned by racism. It doesn't matter how many facts and data you give them, the answer is still simply bend over and take it. That is their solution. To them, it's racist to point out racism. You may have saw my post asking about what policies we should enact to combat racism; virtually none of them could do it, actually insisted that we should get rid of current protections.




As much as they claim to hate racism, you think they'd come up with some solutions. The problem is that they don't actually care about racism, only racism against white people. You know this because as soon as they perceive racism against white people, you get an anti CRT bill, or an anti protest bill. Damn the constitution, 1st amendment, and any other rationalization used to rebuke policies that thwart white racism.





It all started making sense to me when I started viewing the world through Critical Race Theory, viewing the world for what it is. They're racist, they've always been racists, and they always will be racist. Moreover, white people are animals. I don't mean that in a pejorative sense but a literal sense. It's their nature so much as it is a dog's nature to bark. The shooter in New York, Frank James, was right about a lot of what he said. "A white person and a black person are not even supposed to be in the same fucking hemisphere living with one another". It is true in the sense that these problems are inevitable. Once you realize that, my suggestion for the death penalty for for racism and hate speech sounds totally permissible. These are genetic behaviors that can only be combatted with a strong bureaucratic hand. Waiting on white empathy and reason is a foolish goal to attain. Strength and death is the only thing they understand. Unironically, I do think blacks should pull themselves up by the bootstraps and reach a level of predominance to pull the levers.
 

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It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, Valerie Wilson, “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” Economic Policy Institute, February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

Ryan C.T. DeLapp, MA, and Monnica T. Williams, Ph.D., “Proactively Coping With Racism, Getting back to our lives in the aftermath of racial violence in the media.”, July 18, 2016, www.psychologytoday,com

Dennis R. Upkins, Denying Racism And Other Forms Of Gaslighting, Aug 24, 2016, Mental Health Matters, derived from: https://mental-health-matters.com/denying-racism-and-other-forms-of-gaslighting/

Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

Camara Jules P. Harrell, Tanisha I. Burford, Brandi N. Cage, Travette McNair Nelson, Sheronda Shearon, Adrian Thompson, and Steven Green, Multiple Pathways Linking Racism to Health Outcomes, US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans,
Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

Geronimus, A. T., Hicken, M., Keene, D., & Bound, J. (2006). "Weathering" and age patterns of allostatic load scores among blacks and whites in the United States. American journal of public health, 96(5), 826–833. The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

Fact Sheet: Affirmative Action and What It Means for Women, July 1, 2000, The National Womens Law Center, https://nwlc.org/resources/affirmative-action-and-what-it-means-women/

Tim Wise, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action, September 23, 1998, Is Sisterhood Conditional?: White Women and the Rollback of Affirmative Action

Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),
Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America? How do you become “white” in America?

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,
Schomburg Center for the Research of Black Culture “The Abolition of the Slave Trade-African Resistance.” Home - The Abolition of The Slave Trade

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Charles Blow, “Black Dads Are Doing Best of All,” New York Times June 8, 2015, Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (Published 2015)

Jo Jones, Ph.D., and William D. Mosher, Ph.D., Fathers’ Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010, National Health Statistics Report, Number 71, December 20, 2013, Division of Vital Statistics

Gretchen Livingston And Kim Parker, Pew Research, A Tale of Two Fathers, pg.2, A Tale of Two Fathers

Tara Culp-Ressler, The Myth of the Absent Black Father, Think Progress, January 16, 2014, https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2020-incident-based-data

National Conference of Black Lawyers, the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the National Lawyers Guild, Report of the International Commission of Inquiry on Systemic Racist Police Violence against People of African Descent in the U.S., https://inquirycommission.org/website/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Commission-Report-15-April.pdf

Alice Speri, The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration Of Law Enforcement, The Intercept, January 31 2017, https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Michael German, Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement, August 27, 2020, Brennan Center for Justice, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...m-white-supremacy-and-far-right-militancy-law

Vanessa Romo, Ghost Skins' And Masculinity: Alt-Right Terms, Defined, NPR, September 6, 2017, https://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548858850/-ghost-skins-and-masculinity-alt-right-terms-defined

Federal Bureau of Investigation, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006, pg.3, https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...premacist_Infiltration_of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

Annalisa Merelli, More black people were killed by US police in 2015 than were lynched in the worst year of Jim Crow, July 7, 2016, https://qz.com/726245/more-black-pe...n-were-lynched-in-the-worst-year-of-jim-crow/

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). https://doi.org/10.2307/2061394

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
Trump had a great plan for Blacks.

He produced the lowest Black unemployment in history.

Of course that isn't good enough for you welfare Negroes, is it? You little fuckers want to have your asses kissed and more welfare.

Fuck you.
 

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I do think blacks should pull themselves up by the bootstraps...
And if you ever do, you will realize that it was you who laid down all along and you who needed to pull yourself up. Take responsibility for yourself and stop with the self pity. You are your own worst enemy...
 
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So what can be done at a local, state, or national level?
Whites need to work on erasing racism in their communities. That's the first step.
 
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Trump was the greatest pro Black President since Johnson, and Johnson hated Blacks.
Trump was not pro black. He did nothing for blacks. What he did was repeat black unemployment percentages created by policies he did not make to whites over and over.
 
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And if you ever do, you will realize that it was you who laid down all along and you who needed to pull yourself up. Take responsibility for yourself and stop with the self pity. You are your own worst enemy...
The government pulled whites up by their bootstraps.
 
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Yup. The arguments themselves are underpinned by racism. It doesn't matter how many facts and data you give them, the answer is still simply bend over and take it. That is their solution. To them, it's racist to point out racism. You may have saw my post asking about what policies we should enact to combat racism; virtually none of them could do it, actually insisted that we should get rid of current protections.




As much as they claim to hate racism, you think they'd come up with some solutions. The problem is that they don't actually care about racism, only racism against white people. You know this because as soon as they perceive racism against white people, you get an anti CRT bill, or an anti protest bill. Damn the constitution, 1st amendment, and any other rationalization used to rebuke policies that thwart white racism.





It all started making sense to me when I started viewing the world through Critical Race Theory, viewing the world for what it is. They're racist, they've always been racists, and they always will be racist. Moreover, white people are animals. I don't mean that in a pejorative sense but a literal sense. It's their nature so much as it is a dog's nature to bark. The shooter in New York, Frank James, was right about a lot of what he said. "A white person and a black person are not even supposed to be in the same fucking hemisphere living with one another". It is true in the sense that these problems are inevitable. Once you realize that, my suggestion for the death penalty for for racism and hate speech sounds totally permissible. These are genetic behaviors that can only be combatted with a strong bureaucratic hand. Waiting on white empathy and reason is a foolish goal to attain. Strength and death is the only thing they understand. Unironically, I do think blacks should pull themselves up by the bootstraps and reach a level of predominance to pull the levers.
Not everybody white is these guys. But whites who think like this are the problem. Not just for us, but for the country.
 
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