Why do so many atheist scientists believe in aliens when there's no proof for them either?

[sealybobo]

and on the same grounds - as you dismiss the idea of an intelligent designer.

that may be true of a generic designer, intelligent or not however that would not be true, the same grounds, if based on a document written by individuals in a time period the definition of their own planet was in question.

do you have a specific designer in mind or is it just a generic, undefined if even physical being of some sort. and if so then the admission of a designer would also be an admission of life throughout the universe as being true if not actually proven.

so how can you have both a designer and not have life throughout the universe. just planet Earth, christian.

No, that doesn't follow. Why would a Designer be compelled to spread life all over the universe, and that is not the topic anyway. The topic is why some people are willing to speculate on life on other planets with no proof yet disparage a belief in a Designer again, with no proof.

I believe it's already been brought up, but we do have proof of life in the universe already. We don't have the same sort of proof of a designer. In the former case, it is extrapolating from something that one knows already exists on Earth and wondering if it also exists elsewhere. In the latter case, it is something that one might believe exists but cannot prove.

So you have speculation that something already proven to exist in one place might exist in another place, contrasted with a belief in something that has not been proven to exist anywhere. Neither thing can currently be proven, but there's definitely differences.

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

 

[sealybobo]

I don’t know how ancient men didn’t look up at the stars and assume there was other humans circling every star.

Perhaps there is. Or will be. Or once was. Just because a star doesn’t have life surrounding it now doesn’t mean it never did or never will. Go back or forward 2 billion years and maybe things were different there. They were on earth. Oh I forgot we aren’t allowed to use earth, science, logic or facts in our arguments

 

[badger2]

The risk of confusing god with life is understandable. God is death, which is also absolute knowledge. But Mars holds the key to life on earth precisely at the locations of its volcanoes, which mimic the Urey-Miller Volcanic Spark Experiment recreated by Livermore Labs for synthesizing amino acids.

 

[deanrd]

Only 6% of scientists are Republican. I’m guessing the majority of those believe we were shimmered into being from dirt from magical God dust.

What’s hilarious to me is all the Republicans who say I’m not a scientist so naturally they don’t believe in what scientist tell them.

And yet absolutely everything they depend on or touch always leads back to a scientist.

 

[sealybobo]

Only 6% of scientists are Republican. I’m guessing the majority of those believe we were shimmered into being from dirt from magical God dust.

What’s hilarious to me is all the Republicans who say I’m not a scientist so naturally they don’t believe in what scientist tell them.

And yet absolutely everything they depend on or touch always leads back to a scientist.

Well I'm not a theist so I don't believe what theists tell me.

 

[Montrovant]

and on the same grounds - as you dismiss the idea of an intelligent designer.

that may be true of a generic designer, intelligent or not however that would not be true, the same grounds, if based on a document written by individuals in a time period the definition of their own planet was in question.

do you have a specific designer in mind or is it just a generic, undefined if even physical being of some sort. and if so then the admission of a designer would also be an admission of life throughout the universe as being true if not actually proven.

so how can you have both a designer and not have life throughout the universe. just planet Earth, christian.

No, that doesn't follow. Why would a Designer be compelled to spread life all over the universe, and that is not the topic anyway. The topic is why some people are willing to speculate on life on other planets with no proof yet disparage a belief in a Designer again, with no proof.

I believe it's already been brought up, but we do have proof of life in the universe already. We don't have the same sort of proof of a designer. In the former case, it is extrapolating from something that one knows already exists on Earth and wondering if it also exists elsewhere. In the latter case, it is something that one might believe exists but cannot prove.

So you have speculation that something already proven to exist in one place might exist in another place, contrasted with a belief in something that has not been proven to exist anywhere. Neither thing can currently be proven, but there's definitely differences.

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

I don't know where you got that impression.

 

[BreezeWood]

And I dismiss it as easily (and on the same grounds) as you dismiss the idea of an intelligent designer.

and on the same grounds - as you dismiss the idea of an intelligent designer.

that may be true of a generic designer, intelligent or not however that would not be true, the same grounds, if based on a document written by individuals in a time period the definition of their own planet was in question.

do you have a specific designer in mind or is it just a generic, undefined if even physical being of some sort. and if so then the admission of a designer would also be an admission of life throughout the universe as being true if not actually proven.

so how can you have both a designer and not have life throughout the universe. just planet Earth, christian.

No, that doesn't follow. Why would a Designer be compelled to spread life all over the universe, and that is not the topic anyway. The topic is why some people are willing to speculate on life on other planets with no proof yet disparage a belief in a Designer again, with no proof.

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No, that doesn't follow. Why would a Designer be compelled to spread life all over the universe, and that is not the topic anyway. The topic is why some people are willing to speculate on life on other planets with no proof yet disparage a belief in a Designer again, with no proof.

No, that doesn't follow ... Why would a Designer be compelled to spread life all over the universe -

so how can you have both a designer and not have life throughout the universe. just planet Earth, christian.

there can be no denying your response is scurrilous to the fact that you believe there is a designer but that you believe they only designed life for one planet but do not give a reason for your assertion.

by your response above your assertion of being off topic is the same, a disconnect from an honest reply, veiling your responses in a dishonest and clandestine manner ... christian.

 

[james bond]

No, that doesn't follow. Why would a Designer be compelled to spread life all over the universe, and that is not the topic anyway. The topic is why some people are willing to speculate on life on other planets with no proof yet disparage a belief in a Designer again, with no proof.

I believe it's already been brought up, but we do have proof of life in the universe already. We don't have the same sort of proof of a designer. In the former case, it is extrapolating from something that one knows already exists on Earth and wondering if it also exists elsewhere. In the latter case, it is something that one might believe exists but cannot prove.

So you have speculation that something already proven to exist in one place might exist in another place, contrasted with a belief in something that has not been proven to exist anywhere. Neither thing can currently be proven, but there's definitely differences.

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

 

[james bond]

Only 6% of scientists are Republican. I’m guessing the majority of those believe we were shimmered into being from dirt from magical God dust.

What’s hilarious to me is all the Republicans who say I’m not a scientist so naturally they don’t believe in what scientist tell them.

And yet absolutely everything they depend on or touch always leads back to a scientist.

Well I'm not a theist so I don't believe what theists tell me.

sealybobo, that's not how science works. If you present a scientific argument, then it's not a question of whether I believe what you said or not. It's a question of showing something to contradict it all or part of it, finding a fallacy in your argument or science tautology, or coming up with a better explanation and theory. Practically all of evolution is science tautology.

 

[Montrovant]

I believe it's already been brought up, but we do have proof of life in the universe already. We don't have the same sort of proof of a designer. In the former case, it is extrapolating from something that one knows already exists on Earth and wondering if it also exists elsewhere. In the latter case, it is something that one might believe exists but cannot prove.

So you have speculation that something already proven to exist in one place might exist in another place, contrasted with a belief in something that has not been proven to exist anywhere. Neither thing can currently be proven, but there's definitely differences.

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

 

[BreezeWood]

I believe it's already been brought up, but we do have proof of life in the universe already. We don't have the same sort of proof of a designer. In the former case, it is extrapolating from something that one knows already exists on Earth and wondering if it also exists elsewhere. In the latter case, it is something that one might believe exists but cannot prove.

So you have speculation that something already proven to exist in one place might exist in another place, contrasted with a belief in something that has not been proven to exist anywhere. Neither thing can currently be proven, but there's definitely differences.

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

.

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

that none of us can match ...

the preface of christianity, the desert religions from within their very origin a denial of the prescribed religion they aspire to represent.

to triumph is the same for everyone, a sabbath.

 

[sealybobo]

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

.

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

that none of us can match ...

the preface of christianity, the desert religions from within their very origin a denial of the prescribed religion they aspire to represent.

to triumph is the same for everyone, a sabbath.

Jesus loves you unconditionally. Love him back or suffer for all eternity.

 

[james bond]

What proof is there of life in the universe.

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

 

[james bond]

How can one be more perfect? First, don't just accept what atheist scientists tell you.

 

[BreezeWood]

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

.

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection ...


can accomplish perfection ...

no, not for you christian your 4th century religion prohibits your spirit being set free by your own initiative and is why you are a cynical, selfabsorbed individual - no hope for you. and your attempt to take down the innocent with you, loser.

religion and evolution are synonymous both representing an outcome over time. the completion of which in both cases may only be represented as a final template when in perfection -

the evolution of the cicada is an example of the metaphysical means by which an individual is able to completely alter their identity from one being to another as proof of the Religion of Antiquity accomplished by the individual without an intermediary, christ - proving its authenticity and disproving the desert religions of judea and christianity as an example from the Almighty the means for admission to the Everlasting.


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[Montrovant]

Really? Go look in a mirror.

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

You're doing a poor job communicating your point. You seem to be saying people should strive for perfection, but you said that people achieve perfection today.

 

[james bond]

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

.

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection ...


can accomplish perfection ...

no, not for you christian your 4th century religion prohibits your spirit being set free by your own initiative and is why you are a cynical, selfabsorbed individual - no hope for you. and your attempt to take down the innocent with you, loser.

religion and evolution are synonymous both representing an outcome over time. the completion of which in both cases may only be represented as a final template when in perfection -

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the evolution of the cicada is an example of the metaphysical means by which an individual is able to completely alter their identity from one being to another as proof of the Religion of Antiquity accomplished by the individual without an intermediary, christ - proving its authenticity and disproving the desert religions of judea and christianity as an example from the Almighty the means for admission to the Everlasting.


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You still do not know what it takes for you to be perfect.

 

[james bond]

I thought we all understood that earth was exempt from this discussion.

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

You're doing a poor job communicating your point. You seem to be saying people should strive for perfection, but you said that people achieve perfection today.

Perfection is a journey. Not a destination. You still do not get it. All Adam and Eve had to do was obey God. Otherwise, their lives were perfect. We would have had the same perfect lives had it not been for their sin. Today, we can strive to be perfect by following Jesus. I think you're doing a poor job of being perfect or striving to be perfect. Many people do not even try to be perfect. Once they strive to be perfect, then their lives change for the better in being perfect. How can anyone be perfect if they do not strive to be perfect? Since you do not believe in Jesus, then your perfection would have to be following someone you admire. You could not even figure this out.

 

[sealybobo]

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

You're doing a poor job communicating your point. You seem to be saying people should strive for perfection, but you said that people achieve perfection today.

Perfection is a journey. Not a destination. You still do not get it. All Adam and Eve had to do was obey God. Otherwise, their lives were perfect. We would have had the same perfect lives had it not been for their sin. Today, we can strive to be perfect by following Jesus. I think you're doing a poor job of being perfect or striving to be perfect. Many people do not even try to be perfect. Once they strive to be perfect, then their lives change for the better in being perfect. How can anyone be perfect if they do not strive to be perfect? Since you do not believe in Jesus, then your perfection would have to be following someone you admire. You could not even figure this out.

Why do you need to follow a myth? And why this myth? You have to admit this story isn’t perfect. Has lots of holes in the story.

Also, maybe if I was a child I would swallow that crap you just said but I’m an adult.

Adam and Eve as a fact? Are you really telling that story like it’s human history?

I guess the dumber you are the closer you get to perfection. Ignorance is bliss

 

[Montrovant]

But earth proves life can happen in the universe. Earth is a big piece of evidence. So will Europa if they find life inside it.

Then you’ll move the goalpost. Then you’ll want to see intelligent life.

Earth is a gem. As far as we see we are alone. And all the things that had to happen. The moon. Meteors. A few mass global extinctions, a few billion years and whalla.

If we find out life once existed on mars that will be more evidence.

At least today there is hope we will one day go and find out. The Catholic Church 1500 years ago really didn’t have a clue but said we were alone. They truly had no evidence. We have lots of it and statistically even though rare they say there still must be at least hundreds of other earths in the vast universe.

You’re going by what an ancient goat herder religion made up 1500 years ago when Christianity was finally organized into another fake religion to add to the list.

Jesus if the man existed was just a dude

Jesus was a dude and also God. He was the most perfect dude that none of us can match. Just think we were perfect at one time. Also, we admire anyone who achieves perfection today. It's further evidence of God.

Wait, who's achieved perfection today?

The answer should be you. Today, none of us are perfect, but we all can strive for perfection. How can you be perfect? Who are the people you admire? How can you be more like them? How can you make your life better in order to reach perfection? How can you make yourself more perfect? Can I get to work on time every day? Can I give up my bad habits? It's different for everyone, so you have to find what works for you.

You're doing a poor job communicating your point. You seem to be saying people should strive for perfection, but you said that people achieve perfection today.

Perfection is a journey. Not a destination. You still do not get it. All Adam and Eve had to do was obey God. Otherwise, their lives were perfect. We would have had the same perfect lives had it not been for their sin. Today, we can strive to be perfect by following Jesus. I think you're doing a poor job of being perfect or striving to be perfect. Many people do not even try to be perfect. Once they strive to be perfect, then their lives change for the better in being perfect. How can anyone be perfect if they do not strive to be perfect? Since you do not believe in Jesus, then your perfection would have to be following someone you admire. You could not even figure this out.

Perfection is a journey? Don't strain yourself moving those goalposts.