Zone1 My Spiritual Evolution

My spiritual balance has been way out of whack for way too long. I have just made a commitment to myself I am going to avoid the news as much as possible for the next few years, and cut back on my attendance in the Politics and Current Events forums here.

Some people call what I am about to do my Testimony. Whatever.

There are other people who will think what I am about to say is a boatload of horseshit, and that's fine. I totally understand as I have given them good reason to think so.

But stick it out with me if you wish to hear me out. This will necessarily be a long story, but I hope an interesting enough one to keep you engaged.

I am not going to go into the gruesome details, but I was abused in every way possible in my childhood. In some ways which you may never have heard of.

Suffice it to say I spent a significant portion of my childhood in hospital beds.

By the time I was 15 years old, I had come to believe everyone on Earth was put here to **** with me personally. I thought everyone was a machine, including my brothers whose faces I punched every day and who punched my face every day. We had been reduced to wild animals.

I later learned in my life that thinking problem I had is called paranoid schizophrenia.

I also came to very firmly believe there could not possibly be a God, as He would not have let all this shit happen to me. I became a very angry militant atheist. The really pissed off kind.

So I went into politics as that is a natural fit for paranoid schizophrenics and atheists. I joined an organization founded by the eminent Bill Buckley called Young Americans for Freedom. I met Reagan before he was president, and many other household names.

There I was. 15, 16, 17 years old, making speeches to legislators in their hallowed chambers and halls. I spoke out against the Equal Right Amendment, pissing off a lot of lesbians. (I kid! I kid!)

I spoke in favor of a Right To Work bill. You could not get a job in my state unless you joined a union and that annoyed the hell out me. So when it became obvious to me the Senate committee was bought and owned by the labor unions as indicated by their fawning over unionists and vicious attacks against us Right To Workers, I stood up and made eye contact with the Vice President of the AFL-CIO and gave him the fist.

500 mobsters in three piece suits paid by my dues to be there booed at me. I'll never forget that sound echoing off the walls. Then two thugs followed me out of the room, trying to intimidate me. So I took them on a hike, up and around the Capitol dome as they huffed and puffed and wheezed. My mother was terrified for me. I was laughing my ass off.

We got threatening phone calls for months afterward. How sad is it the mob felt the need to intimidate a 17 year old when they had already won the war?

Anyway.

My younger brother decided the best way to escape our situation was to enter the service. I followed soon after, and then my older brother joined up right after that.

We had a pact with each other despite our mutual hatred of each other. We had a much younger brother and we all vowed that if our parents did even a fraction of what they did to us to him, we would kill them

I explain to people all the time that a lot of veterans come to the service already pre-traumatized, and are trying to get away from their own personal horrors.

But it was too late for my older brother. He was an intravenous drug addict by then, got in a lot of fights in the service, and was dishonorably discharged. He died a few years later as one of the early victims of AIDS.

My other veteran brother now lives on a mountaintop in New Hampshire as he was forced out of the workplace for being a danger to others. He is heavily medicated by the VA and lives contentedly raising chicken and marijuana plants. He does not partake of the pot as that would mess with his medications. He grows it to give to his elderly neighbors for their various old people ailments.

This is a guy I used to beat this shit out of. Now we are as close as two brothers can be. We are surivors.

Some of you will be happy to know he is a huge Trump fan. Before his wife dragged him to the VA to get help, he was more than ready to start shooting homos and Mexicans if Trump lost the 2016 election.

Thank God Trump won, I guess?

My family was dirt poor. A few years ago, I searched for my childhood home. When I found it, I was traumatized all over again at its tiny size. I could not believe that many of us had lived there, and all the horrors came rushing back.

Despite my parents' flaws, they made sure all us boys attended private Catholic schools. I have no idea how they pulled that off. But I well remember it meant eating a lot of hot dogs, drinking nothing but powdered milk, and so forth. You get the picture.

It also meant the financial strain of our education only increased the stress level which rolled downhill onto us.

Nonetheless, every bit of my success in life is due to that education.

Another thing my dad did is he lectured me for hours, days, months, years about the Irish-never-quit thing. Pounded that shit right into me.

That turned out to serve me incredibly well in the service, let me tell you. When I saw other guys whining and crying and failing in boot camp, I was amazed. Boot camp was a cake walk to me!

Damn right never quit. No matter what shitstorm you find yourself in.

So God bless my parents, I guess?

As a result of my Catholic education at the hands of some seriously sadistic nuns, I left home with a strong moral code despite being a rabid atheist.

Here's a thing.

The nuns teach you about mortal sins and venial sins. If you violate one of the Ten Commandments, that's a mortal sin and you are going to hell. If you violate one of the thousands of venial sins, the confessor priest checks his spreadsheet and tells you how many Hail Mary's and Our Fathers you have to say to wipe your slate clean.

So like I said. I left home with a powerful moral code.

Which I immediately set about violating at every opportunity. It was a rebellion against the straightjacket I had been in my whole life.

Here's another thing.

If you violate one of the Ten Commandments, you're going to hell. So what difference does it matter if you do it one hundred times, right?

Atheist Logic, baby!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!


Here's another thing which was behind my rejection of my moral code.

Because of all the abuse, my filters were all fucked up. They were clogged.

Our parents took us to mass every Sunday. And they read a piece of the Old Testament, then a piece of the New Testament. If you go seven days a week for a year, like some of the old biddies do, you've heard the whole bible.

But as mere Sunday worshippers, we only heard 52 pieces of it. You were supposed to make up the difference in catechism, which we did for a while.

Anyway. My filters.

The only stuff which made it through my filters were the parts where God was smiting and nuking people for being sinners.

i did not hear a word of love or forgiveness. I know for a fact that stuff was read to us. I've read the Bible since my conversion, and it was an entirely different book. My filters were unclogged. But at the time, I didn't hear a word of any of the New Testament.

Weird, right?

God was a real bastard from my point of view. He sets us up to fail and then sends us to hell. That was my view.

God can kiss my ass, I decided.

Here's another thing.

How can you hate Someone you don't believe exists? That snake swallowed its own tail for decades of my life.

At some point, you start desperately hoping there really is no God since you are such a fuckup. He is sending you to hell for sure!

Forever.

A little side track for a second.

After my older brother died from AIDS, my parents took responsibility and repented. They even went so far as to open two halfway houses and took in convicts and such. The named their charity Agape, which is a Greek word for unconditional love.

It took me quite a few years beyond that, though, to finally forgive them.

Let me tell you. Being a forgiving person is the very highest state of being a human can achieve.

It's a real ***** getting there. A real motherfucking *****.

For a long time, I was obsessed with murdering my parents.

A real motherfucking ***** getting there, folks. And it was only due to my conversion, which I promise I am getting to in the next few thousand words.

After the reconciliation decades later, I asked my very Catholic dad what he thought hell was. He was so Catholic, he quite the corporate world and went to work for a Catholic mission. Who better to ask, right?

Don't say a priest. I'll explain later.

I'm expecting my dad to talk about lakes of fire and demons with pitchforks and all that shit you see in those terrifying religious paintings.

No.

He says hell is, "Eternal separation from God."

Whoa.

Whoa...



I still get chills. Because I have been in hell for most of my life. And it wasn't the abuse which put me there, though I could be forgiven for thinking so.

I put myself in hell. I told God to kiss my ass and turned my back on Him.


Here's another thing.

When you are crazy pissed off and an atheist, you acquire what is known as a Confirmation Bias. It's a kind of logical fallacy.

Let me tell you, when you serve in the military for over 20 years like I did, you are provided limitless evidence to feed that bias.

You are sent to places where you see all the worst things human beings do to each other. Yep, for sure there's no God.

I wasn't satisfied with all this evidence, though. I needed more.

Wherever I went on this planet, I would seek out the local holy men and interrogate them. I would engage them in angry debate and challenge their beliefs.

When I look back now at the nerve I had doing that, I feel deeply ashamed.

If I grilled a priest, and I did many, I had one question which my filters had been unable to process. I would ask the priest du jour, "What does Jesus died for our sins mean?"

I honestly did not get it.

There is no doubt every one of them answered the question straightforwardly. But there's a bit in the Old Testament about Egypt's Pharoah's heart being hardened which made it literally impossible for him to heed Moses and, by extension, God. So God had to really **** the Pharoah up the ass until he got the point.

That was me. Mr. Hardened Heart. I literally could not understand those priests, I was so far gone down the atheist rabbit hole.

Eternal separation from God. My inability to understand priests is why I went to my dad to find out if I was going to hell and finding out I had been there for a while already.

I won't go into all the gruesome details of my lifestyle while I was in the void. I'll just jump ahead to my conversion process now. There are three phases to my spiritual evolution which means you have about 38 thousand more words to read.

Take a break. I'll wait here.
My life has been the opposite. The easiest life you could imagine. They say you have to undergo a lot of trials to enter Heaven. You have had trials. I have had none. I suspect I will have a lot of pain and suffering to undergo if I am to make it. Maybe ALS. I am trying to do good things to avoid some of that pain. Being in this forum only increases that debt. When I stop coming here, you’ll know I have evolved. But dang. I just HAVE to get my opinions out. I feel so strongly about politics and Catholicism. But it only degrades to insults. This place is a cesspool. I always forget that
 
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My life has been the opposite. The easiest life you could imagine. They say you have to undergo a lot of trials to enter Heaven. You have had trials. I have had none. I suspect I will have a lot of pain and suffering to undergo if I am to make it. Maybe ALS. I am trying to do good things to avoid some of that pain. Being in this forum only increases that debt. When I stop coming here, you’ll know I have evolved. But dang. I just HAVE to get my opinions out. I feel so strongly about politics and Catholicism. But it only degrades to insults. This place is a cesspool. I always forget that
ALS? I don't think life works that way, even though I often mockingly refer to karma catching up to people. "What goes around, come around."

I have cut my attendance here way down for the same reasons you stated.

English poet William Blake said in his Proverbs of Hell, "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."

I've certainly lived a life of excess. I didn't even get close to touching on that in this topic.

As for suffering being a necessity for our ultimate reward, there is another expression: "There are many paths to the top of the mountain."
 
Eventually, ALL people look to God, in this life or in the hereafter. I'm happy to hear that you are seeking him in this life. I encourage you to follow Jesus in everything you do. Your trust in and willingness now to follow Jesus means that, upon death, you will immediately go to Heaven and be transformed into perfection.

Others are sent to the Lake of Fire after dying unsaved. That process ultimately takes them to Jesus and salvation. But all this doctrine is another thread. Good luck the rest of the way and feel free to PM me if you want to discuss anything. God bless you my brother!
 
Eventually, ALL people look to God, in this life or in the hereafter.

* just maybe try in this life before scampering off to the next ...

there is not a god for everyone to be looking to is not to say they are not looking and for varieties sake certainly something other than the desert religions forgeries and fallacies might help to clarify what to be looking to.
 
Eventually, ALL people look to God, in this life or in the hereafter.
Because of everyone gets desperate and hopeless, sometimes. They also look to lucky charms and Astrology and other superstitions. That's not a good argument for God. It's a good argument that there are no gods and that gods are just another type of superstition.
 
Because of everyone gets desperate and hopeless, sometimes. They also look to lucky charms and Astrology and other superstitions. That's not a good argument for God. It's a good argument that there are no gods and that gods are just another type of superstition.
Providence is a great argument for God.
 
Phase Two.

Due to the nature of some of the operations I was involved in, this will be scant on details which do not involve Phase II directly.

We're in Bosnia-Herzogobobblewhatsis. We're warriors. These Nazi ***** need killing. I'm totally on board with the program.

An aside. After a particular day which was far more grueling than any of us expected, I entered the debriefing room and muttered, "Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill?" This gets me on the scoreboard.

Back to the show. Like out of a Hollywood movie, we get a message one midnight to proceed directly to Kuwait.

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

We're stoked. I'm talking AAA-grade bloodlust. We're on our way, You can feel the musculature bulking up all around you. I'm not kidding when I say you can actually smell all this.

Then God ***** me up.

I had a really stupid, corny arrangement with the Queen of the Crazies. Before I deployed, she asked me to go outside every night at 9 pm, Eastern Standard Time, and look at the moon. I'd be looking at the moon, she'd be looking at the moon. At the same time.

When I wasn't being a total judgmental asshole, I was a total sucker for romantic clownery when asked by my Queen.

Being in Bosnia and then the Persian Gulf meant 9 pm Eastern Time was What-The-****-Are-You-Doing-Up-At-This-Hour-You-Blooming-Idiot time for me.

But I did it. I was totally owned by the Queen of the Crazies.

This one evening in the Gulf, I'm looking at the moon at 5 am, I think it was. Not too early. Normal wakeup time.

I'm visualizing my Queen also looking at the moon, but she's ******* crazy. How do I know she's really back there looking at it?

Sucker-r-r-r-r!

But in my mind's eye, I see her looking at the moon, thinking about me.

"If you can't trust the Queen of the Crazies, who can you trust?", my penis asks.

Then, out of nowhere, I see a vision of an Iraqi soldier looking at the moon wherever he is out there in the desert.

I brush that vision away. That's OUR moon, asshole!

Then he comes back. He's looking at the moon, thinking about his wife and kids. He knows we're coming to kill him, and he knows he can't do ****-all about it.


Here's the thing.

In dictatorships like Saddam Hussein's which have oil, they are what is known as a technocracy. The oil money doesn't trickle down. It goes toward phantasmagorical palaces. Plural.

It goes to hookers and blow for the inner circle of flunkies, Hussein's serial killer sons, and court jesters.

None of it trickles down to the starving masses. And I mean they are STARVING.

So what is a hungry family man to do as he hears his children's bellies growling?

What he does is join up with another great expenditure of Hussein's. He joins the Iraqi Army so as to put food on the table.

This is why so many thousands of Iraqi soldiers surrendered in droves. Some even surrendered to reporters. Because they didn't sign up for invasions and counter-invasions and unavoidable death at our hands and all that shit. They signed up for FOOD.

This motherfucking Iraqi comes back into my moon vision. I'm starting to get a little testy about it.

Then God makes a serious dick move with His metaphysical switchboard, and He connects me to every human being on Earth.

At the same time.

I become so discombobulated, it being way more than my puny brain could handle, that it takes me a long time to grasp the incredible gift I've just been given.

Way back in private Catholic school, we used to sing a song that said somewhere in there. "God is looooooooove." You sing that line like three times in a row, right?

And we hear a lot of talk about this Trinity thing and that one of it's parts is the Holy Spirit. Some people say Holy Ghost, but I can tell you right now that is not right.

Another thing they tell you is "God is everywhere", which is a terrifying thought when you are doing something degenerate, as I frequently did.

Well, what God tapped me into that night was his Holy Spirit. He showed me He really is everywhere. Connecting us all together.

And just like that, my warrior persona vanished. Kicked right over the ******* moon.

BAD TIMING, LORD! JESUS H. CHRIST!


The next few days were really, really hard for me. Because I HAD signed up for this shit, only it wasn't fun any more.
I think every above average intelligence war fighter eventually has this insight. And not just with the army of the Technocrat... That soldier on the other side can also believes he is fighting for truth, justice and the (insert country, religion or ideology here) way, just like you.

You think "they're just brainwashed". Which brings up the next uncomfortable question. Am I brainwashed? There's a rabbit hole for ya. You come the other side either with a reason to continue, or a reason not to.
 
I get it. I finally, finally get it.
This begets the question...

Why are you still such a dick?

While this may sound flippant, it is a serious inquiry from a fellow Christian who is also a dick that hates everyone not related by blood or marriage.
 
This begets the question...

Why are you still such a dick?

While this may sound flippant, it is a serious inquiry from a fellow Christian who is also a dick that hates everyone not related by blood or marriage.
There are a lot of reasons I am a dick. One reason is I am retired military and it is difficult to live in a civilian world full of what I have always called soap bubbles and what others call snowflakes.

But the biggest reason I am a dick is because I am thoroughly disgusted by so-called Christians who support a man who is an unrepentant serial adulterer, pathological liar, and a thief whose life philosophy is in total opposition to Christ's parable of the sheep and the goats.

The hateful MAGA cult is the antithesis of Christianity and it just pisses me off to no end they pretend otherwise.

Another reason I'm such an asshole is that I am old school conservative Republican, and it disgusts me how the GOP has become the complete opposite of every conservative principle.

They were that way long before Trump came along. As a brilliant con artist, he saw the decline and corruption of the GOP as an opening for him to thrust himself into and exploit the rubes to the max.

All of this is the result of the deliberate dumbing down of the population by the 24 hour propaganda networks which call themselves "news".

This dumbing down is not exclusive to the Right. It is also true for the Left. It just pisses me off more about the Right for the same reason I would detest a shit-flinging invader in my home more than one in my neighbor's home.
 
There are a lot of reasons I am a dick. One reason is I am retired military and it is difficult to live in a civilian world full of what I have always called soap bubbles and what others call snowflakes.

But the biggest reason I am a dick is because I am thoroughly disgusted by so-called Christians who support a man who is an unrepentant serial adulterer, pathological liar, and a thief whose life philosophy is in total opposition to Christ's parable of the sheep and the goats.

The hateful MAGA cult is the antithesis of Christianity and it just pisses me off to no end they pretend otherwise.

Another reason I'm such an asshole is that I am old school conservative Republican, and it disgusts me how the GOP has become the complete opposite of every conservative principle.

They were that way long before Trump came along. As a brilliant con artist, he saw the decline and corruption of the GOP as an opening for him to thrust himself into and exploit the rubes to the max.

All of this is the result of the deliberate dumbing down of the population by the 24 hour propaganda networks which call themselves "news".

This dumbing down is not exclusive to the Right. It is also true for the Left. It just pisses me off more about the Right for the same reason I would detest a shit-flinging invader in my home more than one in my neighbor's home.
How do you reconcile all this hatred and disgust with the Golden Rule, Love thy neighbor as thyself?

Because this is exactly how I feel about liberals and Rinos. I'm not supposed to hate them, but I do.
 
How do you reconcile all this hatred and disgust with the Golden Rule, Love thy neighbor as thyself?

Because this is exactly how I feel about liberals and Rinos.
There is one class of people Christ criticized more than all others combined.

And that was hypocrites.

The MAGA cult are the greatest of all hypocrites.
 
There is one class of people Christ criticized more than all others combined.

And that was hypocrites.

The MAGA cult are the greatest of all hypocrites.

Trump isn't the one trying to make us get rid of our ICE vehicles while he keeps his private jets, that's progressives.
 
There is one class of people Christ criticized more than all others combined.

And that was hypocrites.

The MAGA cult are the greatest of all hypocrites.
Pretty sure the people Christ condemned the most were those that denied the Holy Spirit.

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But I see you want to make this a political, and not a theological discussion. That is so... you.

The Bible says that all sins are pardonable but this one. Are you above God in deciding whom to love?
 
Pretty sure the people Christ condemned the most were those that denied the Holy Spirit.
He said that was the greatest sin. That is not the same as the people he directly criticized for their hypocrisy.
 
He said that was the greatest sin. That is not the same as the people he directly criticized for their hypocrisy.
Do you hate all those who have divorced? Or those who fornicate. Christ criticized them as well.

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And how about that which Jesus proclaimed defileth man...

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Or does your distain only conveniently align with your personal political beliefs.
 
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Do you hate all those who have divorced? Or those who fornicate. Christ criticized them as well.
You obviously missed the word "unrepentant" in my post.

I have a lot of fun with so-called Christians who talk about forgiveness for Trump.

Right after they say that nonsense, I ask them how they feel about Obama, or Biden, or the Clintons. Or I post their previous comments about them.

Hypocrites, see?
 
You obviously missed the word "unrepentant" in my post.

I have a lot of fun with so-called Christians who talk about forgiveness for Trump.

Right after they say that nonsense, I ask them how they feel about Obama, or Biden, or the Clintons. Or I post their previous comments about them.

Hypocrites, see?

Disagreeing with you doesn't equate to hypocrisy.

My example you ignored is a far greater example.
 
"Trump's a sinner. You're a sinner. We're all sinners. We are all forgiven. Free candy for everyone!"

"Barack HUSSEIN Obama should burn in hell!"

Hypocrites, see?
 
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