Why do poor communities exist in America?

[danielpalos]

This is "Marxism":

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[irosie91]

This is "Marxism":

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

sounds good to me------from where did you extract it?

 

[danielpalos]

sounds good to me------from where did you extract it?

Our federal Constitution and supreme law of the land (in any class struggle or conflict of laws).

 

[MarathonMike]

Drugs and Sex, sells. Right-wing Capitalism at its finest.

I see so the drug cartels supplying the drugs to the inner city gangs are Right-wing Capitalists. Got it thanks.

 

[irosie91]

I see so the drug cartels supplying the drugs to the inner city gangs are Right-wing Capitalists. Got it thanks.

from the experience I have (oy---"experience" )---ie that which I have seen, uhm CLINICALLY,
prostitutes, pimps and pushers are not particularly POLITICAL)

 

[danielpalos]

I see so the drug cartels supplying the drugs to the inner city gangs are Right-wing Capitalists. Got it thanks.

Right-wing Capitalism.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why not present your rebuttal to my Constitutional argument instead of your egotistical opinion?

I have. But I will do so again.

The right-to-work states maintain that either the employer or the employee may end the relationship at any time, and for any reason.

Those for whom the relationship ends through no fault of their own can receive temporary assistance until they find another job. Those who quit voluntarily or were fired for cause cannot. This is not a violation of the equal protection clause. It is simply assistance for one situation and not for all.

 

[danielpalos]

I have. But I will do so again.

The right-to-work states maintain that either the employer or the employee may end the relationship at any time, and for any reason.

Those for whom the relationship ends through no fault of their own can receive temporary assistance until they find another job. Those who quit voluntarily or were fired for cause cannot. This is not a violation of the equal protection clause. It is simply assistance for one situation and not for all.

How is that equal protection of at-will employment laws?

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."

Being free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work means no moral or legal prejudice attached. Requiring a work ethic or for-cause criteria is repugnant to that concept; and repugnant to the equal protection clause regarding employment at the will of either party not just one party or the State.

 

[WinterBorn]

How is that equal protection of at-will employment laws?

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."

Being free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work means no moral or legal prejudice attached. Requiring a work ethic or for-cause criteria is repugnant to that concept; and repugnant to the equal protection clause regarding employment at the will of either party not just one party or the State.

The state offers assistance to those who are between jobs through no fault of their own. If you quit a job you have shown you do not need it, so they do not offer the assistance.

 

[danielpalos]

The state offers assistance to those who are between jobs through no fault of their own. If you quit a job you have shown you do not need it, so they do not offer the assistance.

Neither the general Government nor any State have any authority to enact any privileges or immunities through unequal protection of the laws.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[MarathonMike]

Drugs and Sex, sells. Right-wing Capitalism at its finest.

Ah, you actually provided an "answer" of sorts. We're making progress! But why would you characterize Capitalism as "Right-Wing"? That reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of Capitalism. I see why you prefer to tap dance and not answer questions.

 

[danielpalos]

Ah, you actually provided an "answer" of sorts. We're making progress! But why would you characterize Capitalism as "Right-Wing"? That reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of Capitalism. I see why you prefer to tap dance and not answer questions.

The form of Capitalism the right-wing prefers?

 

[AZrailwhale]

That is pure speculation. Under Capitalism, the private sector would try to seek profit from those market participants on a for-profit basis.

It sure would and does today by selling them drugs and booze to feed their addictions. Crime is capitalism unfettered by morals.

 

[danielpalos]

It sure would and does today by selling them drugs and booze to feed their addictions. Crime is capitalism unfettered by morals.

Anyone with an income is susceptible. The homeless have life experience to motivate them to change their ways once they can obtain an income

 

[AZrailwhale]

Marxism is about equality.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.

Thomas Jefferson

The theory of Marxism is about equality. The practice of it only results in the equality of misery for most people with a favored few living a life of luxury without restraint of law or custom.

 

[danielpalos]

The theory of Marxism is about equality. The practice of it only results in the equality of misery for most people with a favored few living a life of luxury without restraint of law or custom.

Thank Goodness we already have a Constitution and that our Founding Fathers did an excellent job with it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Anyone with an income is susceptible. The homeless have life experience to motivate them to change their ways once they can obtain an income

A very small percentage of the homeless do that. The vast majority are either mentally ill or substance dependent. Giving either group money won’t change their situation. Neither group can be changed for the better by outside forces. You can confine the mentally ill, but the drunks and druggies have to want to change, that only happens to a small percentage after they hit rock bottom.

 

[danielpalos]

A very small percentage of the homeless do that. The vast majority are either mentally ill or substance dependent. Giving either group money won’t change their situation. Neither group can be changed for the better by outside forces. You can confine the mentally ill, but the drunks and druggies have to want to change, that only happens to a small percentage after they hit rock bottom.

I agree to disagree since capitalists would have a profit motive to conduct better outreach toward the homeless simply because they have recourse to an income. We should try to use Capitalism for All of its capital worth in modern times.

 

[WinterBorn]

Daniel, I was thinking about this today while I was out walking. And I have another great reason for your "plan" to be rejected.

The current population in the US is around 330 million people. Of that, 22.3% is under the age of 18 and so would not be eligible for this new & improved UC.

If only 5% of the adult population were to demand UC simply because they have no job, and would not seek one, that would mean 12,820,500 people would be wanting a check for nothing.

And given that you have demanded that the UC be the equivalent of $15 per hour based on a 40 hour week, the amount each person would draw is $31,200.00 per year.

Currently the UC is not drawn from the tax coffers. But under your plan it would have to be.

So if the Unemployment Compensation were to be changed into what you want, and just 5% of the population draws it, the additional tax burden would be $399,999,620,000.00.

Rather than have almost $400 billion added to the US tax burden, Unemployment Compensation would be cancelled. Especially since you want it open ended as far as how long you draw the compensation.

 

[danielpalos]

Daniel, I was thinking about this today while I was out walking. And I have another great reason for your "plan" to be rejected.

The current population in the US is around 330 million people. Of that, 22.3% is under the age of 18 and so would not be eligible for this new & improved UC.

If only 5% of the adult population were to demand UC simply because they have no job, and would not seek one, that would mean 12,820,500 people would be wanting a check for nothing.

And given that you have demanded that the UC be the equivalent of $15 per hour based on a 40 hour week, the amount each person would draw is $31,200.00 per year.

Currently the UC is not drawn from the tax coffers. But under your plan it would have to be.

So if the Unemployment Compensation were to be changed into what you want, and just 5% of the population draws it, the additional tax burden would be $399,999,620,000.00.

Rather than have almost $400 billion added to the US tax burden, Unemployment Compensation would be cancelled. Especially since you want it open ended as far as how long you draw the compensation.

Yet, we can allegedly afford the general warfare and common offense? Besides, you omit the multiplier effect those "equivalent to stimulus payments" would have on our economy. At least one study has shown a multiplier of two; meaning that for every one dollar spent, two dollars worth of economic activity is generated. General taxes on that amount would be considerable; and income taxes could still be levied since those persons would have a consistent income.

Capitalists still need to make a profit. And, our economy would be more efficient with that form of full employment of capital resources and adjust to a new equilibrium via market friendly and market recognizable means. And, we would still incur savings since unemployment compensation is more efficient as an automatic stabilizer than any form of means tested social services.

Besides, we are discussing the "socialism of the law". There is no excuse for unequal protection of the laws under our Constitutional form of Government; only illegals do that.