Why Distinct Gender Roles Are Important To Kids & Society

[Pop23]

This boy went on to have a very successful career in American politics.

That's how the rich dressed little boys for the first few years of life in the past. Pink was also a strong color, blue was for little girls.

And Sil, gender isn't genitals, it's a thing from the biggest sex organ of all, the brain. There are many genders, many sexes, and many sexual orientals. Unlike you nature isn't a simpleton...

Gender is qualified by the genitals one has.

Facts are facts

False ! Gender is complex ,you are basing your opinion on appearance and a bias that says what a "culture" thinks it should be not what it actually is.

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

Yours is emotion.

 

[Pop23]

Sil, their hobby is redefining and creating normality where none actually exists.

Fun bunch, ain't they?

What's normal to you isn't to science. Lots people can't be classified as "normal". See Intersexed individuals, for starters. And those are the easy ones, that's mostly just a combination of junk and that we can usually sort out one way or another but we tend to choose not so well which is why now we usually wait to see what the child has to say.

I concern myself with the normal. They have minimal impact on society. The abnormal should seek help or expect to be shunned.

Easy as that.

Your generous attitude is noted, and rejected as nonsense of course.

Rejected? No, the march of dimes has never rejected a Nickel I've donated for birth defect research.

If I can help just one of you poor bastards the money will be well spent.

false comparison the march of dimes doesn't try to fix what ain't broke.

No, true comparison. What's broke should not be ignored Cuz you have some emotional tie to it.

To do otherwise is cruel.

 

[Pop23]

Birth defects are terrible things. But defects are just that, defects.

XY females and XX males are not birth defects, they are alternate genetic mixes. And the same with all other XX XY variations. Genetics is also not blue or pink.

Otherwise known as birth defects.

No, dummy, those are not Birth Defects.

"A birth defect is a problem that happens while a baby is developing in the mother's body. Most birth defects happen during the first 3 months of pregnancy. One out of every 33 babies in the United States is born with a birth defect.

A birth defect may affect how the body looks, works or both. Some birth defects like cleft lip or neural tube defects are structural problems that can be easy to see. To find others, like heart defects, doctors use special tests. Birth defects can vary from mild to severe. Some result from exposures to medicines or chemicals. For example, alcohol abuse can cause fetal alcohol syndrome. Infections during pregnancy can also result in birth defects. For most birth defects, the cause is unknown."
Birth Defects: MedlinePlus

Genetics are formed at conception, they do not develop over time, like a baby does.

Like transgender. A birth defect.

Transgender is also not a birth defect, at least we have no way of telling that currently. That becomes apparent years later. Your ignorance is appalling...

Your emotional response to a serious question is dangerous and counter productive

 

[Arianrhod]

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

What do your tests say about monosomies and polyosomies?

 

[Skylar]

A message to the LGBT crowd:

The person is either male or female. And that is set in stone. In human culture, males are superior in strength physically to females for a reason. Females give birth and their energy, even physique is directed towards laying on more fat for pregnancy and lactation. Men (at least before men started selecting smaller and smaller more hourglass women pushed at them in the media...to create now almost two generations of beta-boys) used to be taller, more lean and muscular to be the workhorses to bring the bacon home to woman and their children; and to protect and defend them.

This wasn't that long ago. My grandfather told me of his uncles who fought in the civil war, marching hard all day long and engaging in extreme face to face combat, all exposed to the elements. My grandmother came from a family of 13 kids...all who survived because their daddy was lean, big and worked like a mule to feed all of them. The boys when they were old enough, got a labor task assigned. The girls helped with the new babies, cooking, sewing, cleaning, planting gardens and helping with the harvest. At harvest, gender didn't matter..lol...everybody pitched in in some way.

You're insisting gender doesn't matter all the time. And that is false. Men and women are intrinsically different and they'd better be. When was the last time you wrestled a burglar to the ground or raised a barn while you were 8 months pregnant?...or nursing little ones? Men are agro. They're infused with testosterone. They crave activity and are generally hyper vigilant when it comes to sensing danger or a potential threat to their kin. They are the big muscle, the real hard workhorses.

Women's role is equally important. Men burn out quickly and need a place to retreat. They need the gender with more quiet and endurance to have food for them, to make their retreat comfortable and pleasant. The two interplayed well before the liberation movement came to fool women into thinking what they were doing wasn't important. The only mistake society made was not celebrating women and men's distinct gender roles MORE. When you're treated like a slave and given no recognition, then yeah, you want liberation. But for women being liberated means "still doing all the house work and holding down a job too". Great victory ladies!

I've heard women talking about this very topic. A composite example: she got off her shift at a crap job that day and was making her way to the market to get supplies to make dinner, feed the kids, hubby, do some quick spot cleaning and catch up on paying bills, "I would love it if my husband could support our family (yes, the economy is feeding the monster too). I could cook, sew, go for walks with my kids and read to them more often. They are growing up with the daycare lady and I hardly know them it seems." My brother's kids actually take after their daycare provider lady way more than my brother or sister in law. They shoved their kids when they were infants just 6 weeks old into full time daycare while mom skipped off to work each day.

It's insane. The joke has run its course. There are distinct differences between men and women and each is vital in a child's life to restore our culture back to a measure of sanity. I'm not saying a woman can't do other things like maybe a part time job when the kids are older and in school, but which leaves her plenty of time to keep a home and make life happy for the family. And I'm not saying men shouldn't cook or clean. They can pitch in too when women look frazzled. It's just that predominantly, these differences in gender roles revolve around childbirth and raising kids. And until you can produce kids in a vat of liquid in your lab, we need the gender roles to be different. Yes, we do.

I never see men happier than when they are gathered together working on some vital project for the village. They laugh, fart, crack jokes and talk about women as they sweat and toil happily to better the lives of everyone. I've never seen women happier than when they gather together to cook, nurse their babies, harvest a garden, plan a new addition to the house or walkabout with the children frolicking in a big pack, distracted by each other. These are the village roles your crowd is anxious to snuff out. And why? So your more feminine members can seek out more butch ones to play the exact same roles you were genetically programmed to pair up to do anyway. (And with the kids in your home growing up knowing it was all insane anyway? They get that way when they turn around ten years old you know. That's the age of "seeing through their parents' bullshit")

How ironic.

(Yes, the one driving the motorcycle is a woman; but women are not what her passenger is attracted to, ultimately...and obviously) Distinct gender roles are obviously quite important to these two...and every gay couple you've seen, if you think about it honestly...

You realize that you don't have the slighest idea what you're talking about, right? That you offering cartoon simple and sweeping over-generalizations to men and women you don't know nor have ever met how they're supposed to raise their own kids is meaningless jibber jabber?

 

[Skylar]

And Sil, gender isn't genitals, it's a thing from the biggest sex organ of all, the brain. There are many genereds, many sexes, and many sexual orientals. Unlike you nature isn't a simpleton...

Any man will tell you that the brain on top of his shoulders is not the only brain he has. According to many of them, the brain lodged in their jockeys does most of the thinking most of the time..

And, according to your "logic" women wouldn't have mood swings around their cycle. The gonads control the brain more often than not, unless you are a child or a older person. Might want to check on what's behind the control curtain in the normal adult brain: it's the hormones and the gonads produce those.

You've yet to address why the woman on the motorcycle in the OP sitting on the back is attracted to the woman driving it. I noticed you deftly doged that conversation...lol..

Who says that she is?

Remember, you making up an internal monologue for a person you don't know, have never met, have never been in the same room with.....isn't actually evidence.

It's you roleplaying. Your argument might as well come with a 20 sided die and a tube of Clearasil.

 

[Pop23]

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

What do your tests say about monosomies and polyosomies?

That men have dicks and chicks don't, but most importantly, birth defects are terrible

 

[daws101]

What's normal to you isn't to science. Lots people can't be classified as "normal". See Intersexed individuals, for starters. And those are the easy ones, that's mostly just a combination of junk and that we can usually sort out one way or another but we tend to choose not so well which is why now we usually wait to see what the child has to say.

I concern myself with the normal. They have minimal impact on society. The abnormal should seek help or expect to be shunned.

Easy as that.

Your generous attitude is noted, and rejected as nonsense of course.

Rejected? No, the march of dimes has never rejected a Nickel I've donated for birth defect research.

If I can help just one of you poor bastards the money will be well spent.

false comparison the march of dimes doesn't try to fix what ain't broke.

No, true comparison. What's broke should not be ignored Cuz you have some emotional tie to it.

To do otherwise is cruel.

Cruel to be kind in the right measure.
The only emotional tie I have to it is equal treatment.
On the other hand your concern is all emotional .
You believe falsely that transgender and gay people are defective and need to be fixed to conform to your idea of normal.

 

[daws101]

This boy went on to have a very successful career in American politics.

That's how the rich dressed little boys for the first few years of life in the past. Pink was also a strong color, blue was for little girls.

And Sil, gender isn't genitals, it's a thing from the biggest sex organ of all, the brain. There are many genders, many sexes, and many sexual orientals. Unlike you nature isn't a simpleton...

Gender is qualified by the genitals one has.

Facts are facts

False ! Gender is complex ,you are basing your opinion on appearance and a bias that says what a "culture" thinks it should be not what it actually is.

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

Yours is emotion.

false! you're basing on a bias, you will only accept tests that you believe support it
That is not objective in any sense of the word.

 

[rcfieldz]

Some people believe that homosexuals are people whose bodies are possssed by evil spirits and that transexuals are the extreme form of it. That can give you nightmares if you see reality as that.

 

[daws101]

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

What do your tests say about monosomies and polyosomies?

That men have dicks and chicks don't, but most importantly, birth defects are terrible

Do you have any evidence proving the so called birth defects ?

 

[daws101]

Some people believe that homosexuals are people whose bodies are possssed by evil spirits and that transexuals are the extreme form of it. That can give you nightmares if you see reality as that.

Either way make up ain't helping!

 

[Slyhunter]

I'm all for doing whatever floats your boat, but a woman pretending to be a man still can't teach her son how to be a man.

Or how to write his name in the snow.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

A message to the LGBT crowd:

The person is either male or female. And that is set in stone. In human culture, males are superior in strength physically to females for a reason. Females give birth and their energy, even physique is directed towards laying on more fat for pregnancy and lactation. Men (at least before men started selecting smaller and smaller more hourglass women pushed at them in the media...to create now almost two generations of beta-boys) used to be taller, more lean and muscular to be the workhorses to bring the bacon home to woman and their children; and to protect and defend them.

This wasn't that long ago. My grandfather told me of his uncles who fought in the civil war, marching hard all day long and engaging in extreme face to face combat, all exposed to the elements. My grandmother came from a family of 13 kids...all who survived because their daddy was lean, big and worked like a mule to feed all of them. The boys when they were old enough, got a labor task assigned. The girls helped with the new babies, cooking, sewing, cleaning, planting gardens and helping with the harvest. At harvest, gender didn't matter..lol...everybody pitched in in some way.

You're insisting gender doesn't matter all the time. And that is false. Men and women are intrinsically different and they'd better be. When was the last time you wrestled a burglar to the ground or raised a barn while you were 8 months pregnant?...or nursing little ones? Men are agro. They're infused with testosterone. They crave activity and are generally hyper vigilant when it comes to sensing danger or a potential threat to their kin. They are the big muscle, the real hard workhorses.

Women's role is equally important. Men burn out quickly and need a place to retreat. They need the gender with more quiet and endurance to have food for them, to make their retreat comfortable and pleasant. The two interplayed well before the liberation movement came to fool women into thinking what they were doing wasn't important. The only mistake society made was not celebrating women and men's distinct gender roles MORE. When you're treated like a slave and given no recognition, then yeah, you want liberation. But for women being liberated means "still doing all the house work and holding down a job too". Great victory ladies!

I've heard women talking about this very topic. A composite example: she got off her shift at a crap job that day and was making her way to the market to get supplies to make dinner, feed the kids, hubby, do some quick spot cleaning and catch up on paying bills, "I would love it if my husband could support our family (yes, the economy is feeding the monster too). I could cook, sew, go for walks with my kids and read to them more often. They are growing up with the daycare lady and I hardly know them it seems." My brother's kids actually take after their daycare provider lady way more than my brother or sister in law. They shoved their kids when they were infants just 6 weeks old into full time daycare while mom skipped off to work each day.

It's insane. The joke has run its course. There are distinct differences between men and women and each is vital in a child's life to restore our culture back to a measure of sanity. I'm not saying a woman can't do other things like maybe a part time job when the kids are older and in school, but which leaves her plenty of time to keep a home and make life happy for the family. And I'm not saying men shouldn't cook or clean. They can pitch in too when women look frazzled. It's just that predominantly, these differences in gender roles revolve around childbirth and raising kids. And until you can produce kids in a vat of liquid in your lab, we need the gender roles to be different. Yes, we do.

I never see men happier than when they are gathered together working on some vital project for the village. They laugh, fart, crack jokes and talk about women as they sweat and toil happily to better the lives of everyone. I've never seen women happier than when they gather together to cook, nurse their babies, harvest a garden, plan a new addition to the house or walkabout with the children frolicking in a big pack, distracted by each other. These are the village roles your crowd is anxious to snuff out. And why? So your more feminine members can seek out more butch ones to play the exact same roles you were genetically programmed to pair up to do anyway. (And with the kids in your home growing up knowing it was all insane anyway? They get that way when they turn around ten years old you know. That's the age of "seeing through their parents' bullshit")

How ironic.

(Yes, the one driving the motorcycle is a woman; but women are not what her passenger is attracted to, ultimately...and obviously) Distinct gender roles are obviously quite important to these two...and every gay couple you've seen, if you think about it honestly...

THAT and it's reality... and there's no downside to recognizing reality.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

This boy went on to have a very successful career in American politics.

So did this one...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Some people believe that homosexuals are people whose bodies are possssed by evil spirits and that transexuals are the extreme form of it. That can give you nightmares if you see reality as that.

Either way make up ain't helping!

It's probably helping her quite a bit, she is the point.

 

[Skylar]

A message to the LGBT crowd:

The person is either male or female. And that is set in stone. In human culture, males are superior in strength physically to females for a reason. Females give birth and their energy, even physique is directed towards laying on more fat for pregnancy and lactation. Men (at least before men started selecting smaller and smaller more hourglass women pushed at them in the media...to create now almost two generations of beta-boys) used to be taller, more lean and muscular to be the workhorses to bring the bacon home to woman and their children; and to protect and defend them.

This wasn't that long ago. My grandfather told me of his uncles who fought in the civil war, marching hard all day long and engaging in extreme face to face combat, all exposed to the elements. My grandmother came from a family of 13 kids...all who survived because their daddy was lean, big and worked like a mule to feed all of them. The boys when they were old enough, got a labor task assigned. The girls helped with the new babies, cooking, sewing, cleaning, planting gardens and helping with the harvest. At harvest, gender didn't matter..lol...everybody pitched in in some way.

You're insisting gender doesn't matter all the time. And that is false. Men and women are intrinsically different and they'd better be. When was the last time you wrestled a burglar to the ground or raised a barn while you were 8 months pregnant?...or nursing little ones? Men are agro. They're infused with testosterone. They crave activity and are generally hyper vigilant when it comes to sensing danger or a potential threat to their kin. They are the big muscle, the real hard workhorses.

Women's role is equally important. Men burn out quickly and need a place to retreat. They need the gender with more quiet and endurance to have food for them, to make their retreat comfortable and pleasant. The two interplayed well before the liberation movement came to fool women into thinking what they were doing wasn't important. The only mistake society made was not celebrating women and men's distinct gender roles MORE. When you're treated like a slave and given no recognition, then yeah, you want liberation. But for women being liberated means "still doing all the house work and holding down a job too". Great victory ladies!

I've heard women talking about this very topic. A composite example: she got off her shift at a crap job that day and was making her way to the market to get supplies to make dinner, feed the kids, hubby, do some quick spot cleaning and catch up on paying bills, "I would love it if my husband could support our family (yes, the economy is feeding the monster too). I could cook, sew, go for walks with my kids and read to them more often. They are growing up with the daycare lady and I hardly know them it seems." My brother's kids actually take after their daycare provider lady way more than my brother or sister in law. They shoved their kids when they were infants just 6 weeks old into full time daycare while mom skipped off to work each day.

It's insane. The joke has run its course. There are distinct differences between men and women and each is vital in a child's life to restore our culture back to a measure of sanity. I'm not saying a woman can't do other things like maybe a part time job when the kids are older and in school, but which leaves her plenty of time to keep a home and make life happy for the family. And I'm not saying men shouldn't cook or clean. They can pitch in too when women look frazzled. It's just that predominantly, these differences in gender roles revolve around childbirth and raising kids. And until you can produce kids in a vat of liquid in your lab, we need the gender roles to be different. Yes, we do.

I never see men happier than when they are gathered together working on some vital project for the village. They laugh, fart, crack jokes and talk about women as they sweat and toil happily to better the lives of everyone. I've never seen women happier than when they gather together to cook, nurse their babies, harvest a garden, plan a new addition to the house or walkabout with the children frolicking in a big pack, distracted by each other. These are the village roles your crowd is anxious to snuff out. And why? So your more feminine members can seek out more butch ones to play the exact same roles you were genetically programmed to pair up to do anyway. (And with the kids in your home growing up knowing it was all insane anyway? They get that way when they turn around ten years old you know. That's the age of "seeing through their parents' bullshit")

How ironic.

(Yes, the one driving the motorcycle is a woman; but women are not what her passenger is attracted to, ultimately...and obviously) Distinct gender roles are obviously quite important to these two...and every gay couple you've seen, if you think about it honestly...

THAT and it's reality... and there's no downside to recognizing reality.

Save of course what you've mistaken for 'reality'...is merely someone's subjective opinion.

Alas, my little relativist.....subjective is not objective.

 

[Pop23]

I concern myself with the normal. They have minimal impact on society. The abnormal should seek help or expect to be shunned.

Easy as that.

Your generous attitude is noted, and rejected as nonsense of course.

Rejected? No, the march of dimes has never rejected a Nickel I've donated for birth defect research.

If I can help just one of you poor bastards the money will be well spent.

false comparison the march of dimes doesn't try to fix what ain't broke.

No, true comparison. What's broke should not be ignored Cuz you have some emotional tie to it.

To do otherwise is cruel.

Cruel to be kind in the right measure.
The only emotional tie I have to it is equal treatment.
On the other hand your concern is all emotional .
You believe falsely that transgender and gay people are defective and need to be fixed to conform to your idea of normal.

Yes, we need a society that conforms to the most basic standards.

Asking males to use MENS rooms is not asking much.

 

[Pop23]

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

What do your tests say about monosomies and polyosomies?

That men have dicks and chicks don't, but most importantly, birth defects are terrible

Do you have any evidence proving the so called birth defects ?

Do you have any proof it's not simply deviant behavior?

I do have proof it makes opposite sex uncomfortable, and causes fear.

Go ahead, more emotion

 

[Pop23]

This boy went on to have a very successful career in American politics.

That's how the rich dressed little boys for the first few years of life in the past. Pink was also a strong color, blue was for little girls.

And Sil, gender isn't genitals, it's a thing from the biggest sex organ of all, the brain. There are many genders, many sexes, and many sexual orientals. Unlike you nature isn't a simpleton...

Gender is qualified by the genitals one has.

Facts are facts

False ! Gender is complex ,you are basing your opinion on appearance and a bias that says what a "culture" thinks it should be not what it actually is.

No, I'm basing it on objective and reliable tests.

Yours is emotion.

false! you're basing on a bias, you will only accept tests that you believe support it
That is not objective in any sense of the word.

It most assuredly is. Mine however is not emotionally nor politically based as yours is