Why didn't Obama replenish the N95 mask national supply that was depleted after the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 ?

[JimBowie1958]

Impeachment. Hmm. Not like there wasn't good reason for it. You spin and spin and spin but there isn't anyway to spin the fact that pressuring a foreign leader by withholding aid to find dirt on a political rival isn't DIRTY and an abuse of power.
But why are you so outraged at impeachment? You did it to Clinton for less reason - perjury in a CIVIL case over sex.

And what was Trumps 'High Crime'?

Abuse of power.

Successfully blocking Dimocrat Socialism is not an abuse of power.

What did Trump do that was an abuse of power?

 

[Coyote]

Impeachment. Hmm. Not like there wasn't good reason for it. You spin and spin and spin but there isn't anyway to spin the fact that pressuring a foreign leader by withholding aid to find dirt on a political rival isn't DIRTY and an abuse of power.
But why are you so outraged at impeachment? You did it to Clinton for less reason - perjury in a CIVIL case over sex.

And what was Trumps 'High Crime'?

Abuse of power.

Successfully blocking Dimocrat Socialism is not an abuse of power.

What did Trump do that was an abuse of power?

Already stated it.

 

[JoeMoma]

It doesn't matter which president we pick. We can with the benefit of hindsight find thousands of things to "Why didn't they do" them about.

Tell that to the left and their media, as they spend every single fucking minute of the day trashing Trump for all of this crisis !

If the left and media read USMB, then I told them.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Impeachment. Hmm. Not like there wasn't good reason for it. You spin and spin and spin but there isn't anyway to spin the fact that pressuring a foreign leader by withholding aid to find dirt on a political rival isn't DIRTY and an abuse of power.
But why are you so outraged at impeachment? You did it to Clinton for less reason - perjury in a CIVIL case over sex.

And what was Trumps 'High Crime'?

Abuse of power.

Successfully blocking Dimocrat Socialism is not an abuse of power.

What did Trump do that was an abuse of power?

Already stated it.

What a lame dodge.

You know he did not commit a crime, he only frustrated Pelosi, which he should get a medal for.

 

[Coyote]

Impeachment. Hmm. Not like there wasn't good reason for it. You spin and spin and spin but there isn't anyway to spin the fact that pressuring a foreign leader by withholding aid to find dirt on a political rival isn't DIRTY and an abuse of power.
But why are you so outraged at impeachment? You did it to Clinton for less reason - perjury in a CIVIL case over sex.

And what was Trumps 'High Crime'?

Abuse of power.

Successfully blocking Dimocrat Socialism is not an abuse of power.

What did Trump do that was an abuse of power?

Already stated it.

What a lame dodge.

You know he did not commit a crime, he only frustrated Pelosi, which he should get a medal for.

What? What I stated had zero to do with Pelosi! Sheesh.

 

[depotoo]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

Why didn't trump replenish them in 2017

Still the US has stockpiles of surgical mask and the N95 type

HHS told Congress last month that the government stockpile contains 30 million surgical masks and 12 million of the more protective N95 masks. He said there were an additional 5 million N95 masks that may have passed their expiration date.

The government seems to have plenty of mask so why did Trump only send 400 masks to NYC which has one of the highest rates

Is he saving them for a rainy day or is this a fine example of Trump who believes that this will be over with in a few weeks

No, that was ventilators. First they sent 4000, then an additional 400. So 4400. More than NY originally had.
I know they sent one shipment of the face which 78,000 and ai believe another shipment as well, but don’t know how many were in that shipment.

 

[depotoo]

It doesn't matter which president we pick. We can with the benefit of hindsight find thousands of things to "Why didn't they do" them about.

Tell that to the left and their media, as they spend every single fucking minute of the day trashing Trump for all of this crisis !

I don’t need to. I had put up with 8 years of you and your rightest media trashing Obama every fucking minute.

Remember when you guys said there was no such thing as "media bias"?

I do. You said it back then, when Obama was president, and your media was fawning over him, and lying to defend him.

They never exposed or attacked for any problems which occurred with the H1N1.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You know he did not commit a crime, he only frustrated Pelosi, which he should get a medal for.

What? What I stated had zero to do with Pelosi! Sheesh.

Pelosi led the impeachment, derrrrrr.

 

[edthecynic]

Tramp shot down his own lie that you are mindlessly parroting at his press briefing today. When he was asked why HE never replinished the stockpile in his 3 years in office, he claimed he DID replinish the stockpile SEVERAL times, so you can't blame Obama for the depleted stockpile any more so the lack of N95 respirator masks is solely due to Tramp not distributing what he replenished!!!!!

The whole point of this thread, is NOT to blame Obama. It is to show you fools that if you're going to blame everything on Trump, then you need to get your facts straight and also blame Obama.

I'm for not blaming either of them, any more than I am for blaming the entire government structure, federal, state, and munincipalities for failing to act when their own government study back in 2005 showed them what needed to be stocked up on if another Spanish Flu type of pandemic occurred. Well here we are, and now we are paying the price for ignoring this study.

Tramp OWNS the hospitals not getting N95 respirator masks, there is no way around it. He said he replenished the stockpile SEVERAL times since entering the office so hospitals not having what they need is solely due to Tramp not distributing what he replenished.

 

[edthecynic]

The Birth certificate thing was an issue because it was only reluctantly provided

BULLSHIT!
He provided his valid BC and you hate-filled Wing-nuts wouldn't accept it, you Nazis then demanded his "long form" BC, and even after that was provided you scum still would not accept it, falsely claiming it was a forgery.

 

[edthecynic]

But Obama had milked this idea that he was foreign born for years when he was in college

LIAR!!!!!

 

[Olde Europe]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

"Why didn't Obama replenish the N95 mask national supply that was depleted after the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 ?"

This isn't hard to answer:

“The stockpile can only be a bridge, it can never be the total solution,” said Greg Burel, the former director of the Strategic National Stockpile, who now runs a consulting company focused on emergency and medical preparedness. The stockpile has only received about $600 million per year in appropriations from Congress and that money has to be stretched to cover medicine and supplies for everything from potential anthrax attacks to influenza outbreaks to responses to natural disasters like earthquakes and floods.​

$600 million per year easily suffices to buy these darn face masks, but the lazy ****** stole them, used part of it to close Gitmo, and spent the rest with some pimp friends on whores.

Moreover, as we all know, whenever anything goes wrong, Mr. "I take no responsibility at all" wasn't president in 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020, for that matter.

Finally, I read the whole damn link in this, "stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply", and nowhere does it say that the stockpile wasn't replenished. So, whatever the Bloomberg-scribe meant with "didn’t build back the supply" - build back as opposed to build up, or build back up - it has nothing to do with replenishing a stockpile. Rather, I would guess, it meant that U.S. production and delivery capacity (supply) wasn't reduced to levels before the H1N1 pandemic. Also, it's "distributed ... and didn't build back", not "distributed ... but didn't build back".

Oh, BTW, since we're at it: Which provider of causes for hyperventilation in the rightarded blabbosphere shoved that whopper between your jaws? Considering the "source" letting you run with that steaming pile, I would laugh harder still for your falling for another benighted hoax. Thanks in advance.

 

[depotoo]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

"Why didn't Obama replenish the N95 mask national supply that was depleted after the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 ?"

This isn't hard to answer:

“The stockpile can only be a bridge, it can never be the total solution,” said Greg Burel, the former director of the Strategic National Stockpile, who now runs a consulting company focused on emergency and medical preparedness. The stockpile has only received about $600 million per year in appropriations from Congress and that money has to be stretched to cover medicine and supplies for everything from potential anthrax attacks to influenza outbreaks to responses to natural disasters like earthquakes and floods.​

$600 million per year easily suffices to buy these darn face masks, but the lazy n!gger stole them, used part of it to close Gitmo, and spent the rest with some pimp friends on whores.

Moreover, as we all know, whenever anything goes wrong, Mr. "I take no responsibility at all" wasn't president in 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020, for that matter.

Finally, I read the whole damn link in this, "stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply", and nowhere does it say that the stockpile wasn't replenished. So, whatever the Bloomberg-scribe meant with "didn’t build back the supply" - build back as opposed to build up, or build back up - it has nothing to do with replenishing a stockpile. Rather, I would guess, it meant that U.S. production and delivery capacity (supply) wasn't reduced to levels before the H1N1 pandemic. Also, it's "distributed ... and didn't build back", not "distributed ... but didn't build back".

Oh, BTW, since we're at it: Which provider of causes for hyperventilation in the rightarded blabbosphere shoved that whopper between your jaws? Considering the "source" letting you run with that steaming pile, I would laugh harder still for your falling for another benighted hoax. Thanks in advance.

Here you go-
Congress provided supplemental funds to add 104 million N95 masks and 52 million surgical masks in an effort to prepare for a flu pandemic. But after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

A disaster foretold: Shortages of ventilators and other medical supplies have long been warned about

Shortages of ventilators, masks and other medical supplies have been a persistent weak link in U.S. disaster preparedness. For two decades, expert warnings have largely gone unheeded.

www.latimes.com

 

[Coyote]

You know he did not commit a crime, he only frustrated Pelosi, which he should get a medal for.

What? What I stated had zero to do with Pelosi! Sheesh.

Pelosi led the impeachment, derrrrrr.

The grounds for impeachment had nothing to do with Pelosi but with Trumps own actions. If you think it is fine for the president to abuse his power by coercing a foreign leader into trying to find or manufacture dirt on a personal political rival then say so. I do not. And yes, I believe that behavior is grounds for impeachment and for party that impeached Clinton to claim persecution, is ludicrous.

 

[Coyote]

But Obama had milked this idea that he was foreign born for years when he was in college

LIAR!!!!!

Thank you. That was a ludicrous claim.

 

[Olde Europe]

Here you go-

Repeating the same text, misunderstanding it in the same way as the other goof before, doesn't clarify anything.

I suggest, you read my posting as often as necessary to understand the argument.

Or not. Your call, mate.

 

[edthecynic]

But after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.

But Tramp claims he refilled the stockpile many times! So who do you now blame for the hospital not getting the stockpiled supplies?????

Question: ON THE STOCKPILE FOR SUPPLIES FOR THE PANDEMIC, YESTERDAY YOU BLAMED YOUR PREDECESSOR SAYING "WE TOOK OVER AN EMPTY SHELF." YOU HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT FOR OVER THREE YEARS. WHY DID YOU NOT FILL THE SHELVES?

Tramp: WE HAVE BEEN FILLING IT FOR LITERALLY A YEAR. WE HAVE BEEN FILLING UP THE STOCKPILE MANY TIMES.

 

[depotoo]

Here you go-

Repeating the same text, misunderstanding it in the same way as the other goof before, doesn't clarify anything.

I suggest, you read my posting as often as necessary to understand the argument.

Or not. Your call, mate.

Here, I suggest you read this comprehensive article. Yes, they picked and chose between masks and medicines. Budget should have been increases to replenish in 2009.
Also read this, billions were appropriated for H1N1, not once but at least twice, one of which was for those unforeseens-
This contingent FY 2009 supplemental appropriation would be provided to a new account, Unanticipated Needs for Influenza, in the Executive Office of the President that was proposed for creation in the first 2009-H1N1 influenza supplemental request, as transmitted to the Congress on April 30, 2009. These funds would be available for transfer by the Office of Management and Budget to Departments and Agencies, including the Departments of Agriculture, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, and State, and the U.S. Agency for International Development, and others, for the purposes stated and only upon congressional notification.
This proposal also includes $200 million to address the growing humanitarian crisis in Pakistan. To date, there are over 2.5 million displaced people in Pakistan, many of whom have fled their homes because of the Pakistan government’s counterinsurgency campaign. These funds will provide displaced people in Pakistan with urgent relief and resettlement assistance.

So tell me why the guy that had control over the stockpiles for the last 12 years, just retired as a matter of fact, never saw to hit the stockpiles were replenished.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/budget_amendments/supplemental_06_02_09.pdf

Now that is behind us, tell me how is your country doing with supplies?

 

[Olde Europe]

Here, I suggest you read this comprehensive article. Yes, they picked and chose between masks and medicines. Budget should have been increases to replenish in 2009.

Look, depotoo, here's the text with the central bit of "information" concerning this thread's topic:

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

In that text above there is a link, supposedly underpinning the charge - "didn’t build back the supply". Click on that link, read the text that appears next, and tell me where it says that the national stockpile wasn't replenished. If you find it, I'd be grateful. If you can't... well, then there's two of us to notice this whole thread is a pile-up of nothing-burgers.

 

[Asclepias]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

Stop whining. How many years did Drumpf have to get some new masks?