Why Didn't Medicare Fail 50 Years Ago - And What Can We Do To End It Now???

[Biff_Poindexter]

Medicare Celebrates Its 50th Birthday, Despite Ronald Reagan

How can a country who is not socialist, ever accept the Medicare program? You would think not one single democrat would have remained in office, not one single Democrat would ever get elected president again for being the party who passed Medicare.

We didn't even need Medicare back then, studies show that nearly 54% of Americans 65 and older had insurance coverage -- why? because it was unfair to expect the free market private insurance companies to pay for customers who'd become too expensive to cover -- and at the end of the day, that is what freedom is about, if you don't set aside enough savings to cover for medical emergencies, then you have the freedom to take that risk and suffer the consequences.

But leave it up to the libs to pass something as utterly evil as Medicare -- yea, 96% of Americans over 65 had health insurance -- but big deal -- however as Reagan warned -- that would lead to in less than 20 years as Reagan said "..a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay and pretty soon your son won’t decide when he’s in school where he will go or what he will do for a living.”

Once and for all, we need to end this socialist program and get back to the free market solutions that were working so much better prior to Medicare. Why Republicans aren't more upfront about just getting rid of Medicare entirely is a slap in the face to true conservatives like Reagan, Goldwater and Ayn Rand (who would rather die than take an ounce of Medicare).

 

[WillowTree]

Well, seniors don’t have a choice! Medicare is another mandate. If you work you know they don’t ask your permission to withdraw the funds from your check, they just take it. Try to opt out of Medicare and you know what happens? They take your social security away from you too. See? Democrats are good with their fucking mandates aren’t they?

 

[bendog]

a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay and pretty soon your son won’t decide when he’s in school where he will go or what he will do for a living.”

Country went to hell just as Reagan predicted, and he NEVER raised taxes to pay for medicare .... THAT IS JUST ANOTHER MSM LIE lol

Excellent parody post

 

[initforme]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

 

[Mac1958]

Hey, if a 92-year old lady with diabetes, a heart condition, arthritis in her hands and onset dementia can't afford to pay out of pocket for her health care SHE CAN GET A FUCKING JOB LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!

THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM COMMIE

MAGA!


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[CrusaderFrank]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

 

[WillowTree]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

They did the same with college tuition, then bitch cause no one can afford college! Say thanks Democrats!

 

[9thIDdoc]

Health "insurance" is a scam. Always has been; always will be. Companies becoming wealthy by not providing the product they sell.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

They did the same with college tuition, then bitch cause no one can afford college! Say thanks Democrats!

Barack "born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia" Obama was the planets greatest ever predatory lender

 

[The Irish Ram]

Thing is, most people had medical insurance through the workplace. Retirement age then was 75. At that point you drew your Social Security INSURANCE, that you paid into the entire time of your employment. No gift, no entitlement. It was the worker's own money, paid into his retirement fund. Then within a few short years, the worker died. And his insurance was usurped by the government.
Medicare was reserved for the infirmed. Now it is a lifestyle for those who cannot or choose not to work at all. And Social Security has been robbed til nothing is left.

 

[Meister]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

Bingo! Whenever government gets involved prices rise. Even on the products it buys are jacked up
because it's a government contract. Saw it in the 70's when the company I worked for made torque wrenches
for private companies and the government. It was insane.

 

[Timmy]

What do you conservatives want ? Old people dying in the streets because they have no insurance ? Tell us your plan.

By the way. 50 years ago treatment was basically antibiotics. Healthcare is more expensive because it’s light years of what it used to be.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

Is 54% of people covered higher or lower than 96% of people covered?

Conservatives always avoid answering this question -- Medicare didn't get passed and quickly became the most popular government program in history because what we had before was so much better

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Thing is, most people had medical insurance through the workplace. Retirement age then was 75. At that point you drew your Social Security INSURANCE, that you paid into the entire time of your employment. No gift, no entitlement. It was the worker's own money, paid into his retirement fund. Then within a few short years, the worker died. And his insurance was usurped by the government.
Medicare was reserved for the infirmed. Now it is a lifestyle for those who cannot or choose not to work at all. And Social Security has been robbed til nothing is left.

Social Security is a communist program too that needs to be abolished

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Hey, if a 92-year old lady with diabetes, a heart condition, arthritis in her hands and onset dementia can't afford to pay out of pocket for her health care SHE CAN GET A FUCKING JOB LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!

THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM COMMIE

MAGA!


.

Exactly. It's not as simple as the OP would suggest. While I think there may be better vehicles than MediCare to deliver care to elderly people in need, we should have something.

Singapore has a good healthcare model

Is Singapore’s "miracle" health care system the answer for America?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Health "insurance" is a scam. Always has been; always will be. Companies becoming wealthy by not providing the product they sell.

Because what we have isn't really health insurance. They are health care plans and they have assisted in massively driving up the cost of medical care in this country.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What do you conservatives want ? Old people dying in the streets because they have no insurance ? Tell us your plan.

By the way. 50 years ago treatment was basically antibiotics. Healthcare is more expensive because it’s light years of what it used to be.

Amazing how we advanced for 200 years before Medicare

 

[Kittymom1026]

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

99 percent of workers cannot possibly set aside nearly enough money for medical bills and pay for housing and basic necessities. Medical prices are high and many are one medium sized medical procedure away from bankruptcy without some kind of help. So if Medicare goes then you had better mandate lower cost procedures or only the mega wealthy receive medical care. A salary of 50 grand is nothing today.

Medical prices are high because since Medicare the government, and not the individual, is the payee

I am on Medicare and payment for it comes out of my SS check every month, plus I have supplemental coverage that I pay for too.

 

[Winston]

Well, seniors don’t have a choice! Medicare is another mandate. If you work you know they don’t ask your permission to withdraw the funds from your check, they just take it. Try to opt out of Medicare and you know what happens? They take your social security away from you too. See? Democrats are good with their fucking mandates aren’t they?

You are STUPID. You can always opt out of Medicare Part B, which has a premium. You can even opt out of Medicare Part A, which you already paid for and cost nothing. But you can't opt out of Medicare Part A while collecting Social Security. If you are still working and have employer provided health insurance that is a high-deductible plan and an HSA you, or more importantly, your employer, cannot contribute to the HSA if you are enrolled in Medicare Part A. That is the one case that it actually makes sense to opt out of Part A. In any other case is is just plain STUPID, although I don't doubt you probably tried it.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

What do you conservatives want ? Old people dying in the streets because they have no insurance ? Tell us your plan.

By the way. 50 years ago treatment was basically antibiotics. Healthcare is more expensive because it’s light years of what it used to be.

Amazing how we advanced for 200 years before Medicare

I am almost certain you didn't read much about the state of healthcare 200 years or so ago -- so I will help you:

From the article:

"In the early 19th century, Bostonians largely had two options if they got sick: house calls from expensive private physicians or an overcrowded poorhouse. So two centuries ago yesterday, in a 2,677-word petition, two of the city’s top doctors called on the city’s gentry to help establish the state’s first public general hospital."

But I guess for conservatives, they'd like to bring back poorhouses as a place for senior citizens to get healthcare -- because? freedom!