Zone1 Why can't there be a serious intellectual discusion about Jesus' gender and sexuality?

[ding]

So now you deny your own standard and are arguing against yourself.

This is your MO when getting caught red handed with your hand in the cookie jar. You put words in other people's mouths because you are losing and need to create a distraction.

Do I need to relist the reasons you are a bad Jew for attacking rival religions? Do you need to go talk to your rabbi to get right with God?

 

[HaShev]

Hemitodrosis can affect anyone, both men and women. The idea of attributing Jesus to being a woman because of turners syndrome isnt accurate.

at the time of the omni article in 1988 Hemitodrosis might not have been a diagnosis yet, or so rare not known.
Which makes one bleeding sweat more likely Turners syndrome than Hemitodrosis since Turner's syndrom is less rare and you have to cut those rare numbers of Hemitodrosis in half according to you, even though experts still say mostly females.
Do you have a date for it's determined infliction and number of cases then answer my former questions, thanks.

 

[HaShev]

This is your MO when getting caught red handed with your hand in the cookie jar. You put words in other people's mouths because you are losing and need to create a distraction.

Do I need to relist the reasons you are a bad Jew for attacking rival religions? Do you need to go talk to your rabbi to get right with God?

once again you admitted(through your own standard) your religion was bad for attacking and swallowing up all cultures faiths. -thank you for proving my point including the comment about your
"rules for thee but not for me" attitude.

 

[ThisIsMe]

That's not a quote from me.... shimon

 

[ThisIsMe]

at the time of the omni article in 1988 Hemitodrosis might not have been a diagnosis yet, or so rare not known.
Which makes one bleeding sweat more likely Turners syndrome than Hemitodrosis since Turner's syndrom is less rare and you have to cut those rare numbers of Hemitodrosis in half according to you, even though experts still say mostly females.
Do you have a date for it's determined infliction and number of cases then answer my former questions, thanks.

It doesn't matter when the disease was diagnosed. We don't know how far back the condition goes.

If he did sweat blood, it doesn't mean he was a woman

 

[HaShev]

It doesn't matter when the disease was diagnosed. We don't know how far back the condition goes.

If he did sweat blood, it doesn't mean he was a woman

that should matter, it might be a newer thing, not just discovered more recently but started existing in our generation or parents generation, so can you tell us when it started appearing? How about those other questions on topic?

 

[ThisIsMe]

that should matter, it might be a newer thing, not just discovered more recently but started existing in our generation or parents generation, so can you tell us when it started appearing? How about those other questions on topic?

Turner syndrome, according to the interwebs, goes back to about 1932

Henry Hubert Turner (1892–1970) | Embryo Project Encyclopedia

Henry Hubert Turner was a physician and researcher who studied hormones and human development in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, during the twentieth century. He was one of the first people to classify Turner syndrome, which is a genetic condition that occurs when someone has a specific atypical...

embryo.asu.edu

Hemotidrosis goes back to 3rd century BC

History of Hematidrosis

Hematidrosis represents a strange and extremely rare medical condition where the affected individual literally sweats bloody fluid through the sweat pores. The skin is usually anatomically and histologically normal, though a few studies have reported some abnormalities such as blood-filled...

www.news-medical.net

 

[HaShev]

Turner syndrome, according to the interwebs, goes back to about 1932

Henry Hubert Turner (1892–1970) | Embryo Project Encyclopedia

Henry Hubert Turner was a physician and researcher who studied hormones and human development in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, during the twentieth century. He was one of the first people to classify Turner syndrome, which is a genetic condition that occurs when someone has a specific atypical...

embryo.asu.edu

Hemotidrosis goes back to 3rd century BC

History of Hematidrosis

Hematidrosis represents a strange and extremely rare medical condition where the affected individual literally sweats bloody fluid through the sweat pores. The skin is usually anatomically and histologically normal, though a few studies have reported some abnormalities such as blood-filled...

www.news-medical.net

Thank you, but still avoiding my previous questions.
The first mention of bloody sweat may be dated back to the age of Aristotle, around the third century BC.
but this can still be due to Turner's Syndrom.
So tell us which Historical Christ are you calling Jesus with this rare infliction, and how do you prove him her they as being a man and how do you prove they didn't have Turner's syndrom, being his height recorded as a mere 4'6"?

 

[ding]

once again you admitted(through your own standard) your religion was bad for attacking and swallowing up all cultures faiths. -thank you for proving my point including the comment about your
"rules for thee but not for me" attitude.

That's all in your head. You should worry about your religion rather than mine.

 

[HaShev]

That's all in your head. You should worry about your religion rather than mine.

I am, by worrying about yours which hate propaganda influenced the Nazis which trained and influenced the Jihaadists.
The RCC antisemitic synods and decrees influenced the Nazis antisemitic rules and acts. It was where the head Palestinian Mufti (said to be Arafats Uncle
Haj Amin Al-Husseini flead to Berlin to learn said propaganda of hate which influenced the Jihaadist propaganda, mentality of violence and hate.
Hamas parading Nazis Swastika graffiti and flags literally leads all roads back to Rome and their creation of the antisemitic flavor in the NT and the deflective teachings of blame to subvert and enslave cultures.

 

[ding]

I am, by worrying about yours which hate propaganda influenced the Nazis which trained and influenced the Jihaadists.
The RCC antisemitic synods and decrees influenced the Nazis antisemitic rules and acts. It was where the head Palestinian Mufti (said to be Arafats Uncle
Haj Amin Al-Husseini flead to Berlin to learn said propaganda of hate which influenced the Jihaadist propaganda, mentality of violence and hate.
Hamas parading Nazis Swastika graffiti and flags literally leads all roads back to Rome and their creation of the antisemitic flavor in the NT and the deflective teachings of blame to subvert and enslave cultures.

You are a religious nutjob.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Thank you, but still avoiding my previous questions.
The first mention of bloody sweat may be dated back to the age of Aristotle, around the third century BC.
but this can still be due to Turner's Syndrom.
So tell us which Historical Christ are you calling Jesus with this rare infliction, and how do you prove him her they as being a man and how do you prove they didn't have Turner's syndrom, being his height recorded as a mere 4'6"?

Well, I don't know what his condition was, but because hemotidrosis is a condition that shows itself when someone is under extreme stress, this would likely be a good explanation.

I don't see anywhere in the Bible that mentions how tall he was, but his height isn't relevant.

Jesus was a carpenter, correct? Not a profession a woman would have in those days.

Everywhere in the Bible He is referred to as a he. He is referred to as the Son of God.

I mean, what other clues would you need?

 

[shimon]

Well, I don't know what his condition was, but because hemotidrosis is a condition that shows itself when someone is under extreme stress, this would likely be a good explanation.

I don't see anywhere in the Bible that mentions how tall he was, but his height isn't relevant.

Jesus was a carpenter, correct? Not a profession a woman would have in those days.

Everywhere in the Bible He is referred to as a he. He is referred to as the Son of God.

I mean, what other clues would you need?

You do realize that the Roman scribes that gave us the New Testament plagerized almost all their material from other sources and cultures that is a given…Now I have already shown you that according to Leviticus anyone with blood or any other fluid coming out of their body would be considered unclean by Jewish law and would not be acceptable in any fashion …However in the Greek tales in the Iliad one can find exactly where the Romans found their need to push Jesus as having blood flowing from his body because Ichor or the blood of the Gods healed all wounds so pushing this Ichor or blood would make Jesus immune from his wounds. Teaching or preaching this to ignorant masses who already knew these tall tales from the Greeks would further their agenda regarding the beliefs that were taught about the idol Jesus and their claim about him being an god and immune……Iliad V. 339–342:
[not] Blood follow'd, but immortal ichor pure,
Such as the blest inhabitants of heav'n<
May bleed, nectareous; for the Gods eat not
Man's food, nor slake as he with sable wine
Their thirst, thence bloodless and from death exempt.

 

[ThisIsMe]

You do realize that the Roman scribes that gave us the New Testament plagerized almost all their material from other sources and cultures that is a given…Now I have already shown you that according to Leviticus anyone with blood or any other fluid coming out of their body would be considered unclean by Jewish law and would not be acceptable in any fashion …However in the Greek tales in the Iliad one can find exactly where the Romans found their need to push Jesus as having blood flowing from his body because Ichor or the blood of the Gods healed all wounds so pushing this Ichor or blood would make Jesus immune from his wounds. Teaching or preaching this to ignorant masses who already knew these tall tales from the Greeks would further their agenda regarding the beliefs that were taught about the idol Jesus and their claim about him being an god and immune……Iliad V. 339–342:
[not] Blood follow'd, but immortal ichor pure,
Such as the blest inhabitants of heav'n<
May bleed, nectareous; for the Gods eat not
Man's food, nor slake as he with sable wine
Their thirst, thence bloodless and from death exempt.

I don't know know that I believe the gospels were plagiarized but that isn't the issue. I'm just debunking that Jesus was a woman

 

[shimon]

You are a religious nutjob.

Really Ding are you serious I have met Michael face to face and he is far from a nut job religious or otherwise however I did see one of yours walking down the street by his lonesome carting a sign with him about how Jesus heals.. Maybe you can remember that the next time you are teeing off and one of shots goes wide and whacks someone in the back of their head while they are lying down on the ground in pain… I still see you have not answered anything except taken pot shots with your trusty club( no not the one in your hand but the club you belong to)

 

[daveman]

Why can't there be a serious intellectual discusion about Jesus' gender and sexuality?​

The Bible refers to Jesus as a man. Jesus did not sin.

So there's no reason to have any discussion.

 

[shimon]

I don't know know that I believe the gospels were plagiarized but that isn't the issue. I'm just debunking that Jesus was a woman

There are a lot of things claimed for and by the idol Jesus that have been proven false or null and void being either a woman or a man is minor compared to the malarkey that is being tried to ram down our throats ……regardless blood coming from the skin either male or female is considered unclean and unfit…

 

[ThisIsMe]

There are a lot of things claimed for and by the idol Jesus that have been proven false or null and void being either a woman or a man is minor compared to the malarkey that is being tried to ram down our throats ……regardless blood coming from the skin either male or female is considered unclean and unfit…

OK, if you say so. That wasn't what I was arguing though.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus was a He. We don’t know much (if anything) about His “sex life,” including whether He even had one.

We do KNOW. He could not have had sex outside of marriage (that is sin). We KNOW He never married. The Church is His wife

 

[HaShev]

You are a religious nutjob.

I'm not the one wearing a fishead hat and cape, causing thousands of wars and over millions of murders over a story of a man given a woman's name that they paraded around in holy relic that turned out to be a woman's skeletal remains.