Why can we not forgive the United States for slavery, but we can forgive the Democrat Party?

[kaz]

When Slavery was being debated in the 1800s, it was the Democrats that sided with maintaining it. When Reconstruction took place, it was Democrats that fought against it. Jim Crow was a Democrat initiative. Democrats resisted Civil Rights legislation until they realized how many more votes they could get.

In this era of renaming institutions, teams, buildings, etc. due to the legacy of the name, it is only logical that the Democrat Party should rename itself for all of that bad legacy that happened under DEMOCRATS.

Slave owners were all Democrats

 

[LeftofLeft]

Slave owners were all Democrats

A terrible legacy. They try and justify it with their bullshit mythical argument that ALL racist Democrats joined the Republican Party.

 

[dblack]

They have certainly forgiven themselves. Then there are the ones who don't want to admit they are Democrats but haven't blinked through the Biden disaster, like dblack and g5000 and bendog

 

[Moonglow]

Slavery was clearly the worst thing in our history. But slavery was rampant across the world and the United States was deeply divided. My great grandfather fought in the Civil War ending slavery in a Michigan unit. Kaz is short for "Kalamazoo," my home town in Michigan. OK, so everyone who was a slave, a slave owner or fought in the war is long, long dead now. FWIW, slave owners should have to pay their slaves, but again, they're dead ...

OK, so the Democrat Party tells us that no, we are not forgiven, they don't forgive us. My question is why is the Democrat Party forgiven? The Democrat Party is synonymous with slavery. After that, it was the Democrat party that was again synonymous with the KKK, Jim Crow, lynching, cross burning and segregation.

Today Democrats are deeply racist. Joe Biden: If you don't vote for me you're not black. Uncle Tom Joe also said blacks are the same. Democrats called Larry Elder a white supremist, Tim Scott "Uncle Tim," Condoleezza Rice, "Aunt Jemima," Collin Powell, "Uncle Tom," and so many other blatantly racist attacks on blacks just for trying to leave the Democrat plantation.

One other thing, Democrats love to deflect and say the racists went to the Republican party. They first obviously made that up. Second, hello, the voters of the 1950s are all dead now, except some of the youngest ones. And finally, does it make any less sense that they JOINED the party of racism? They aren't racist because the Democrat party was racist before they joined it. Hmm. BS anyone?

Do you forgive the United States? The Democrats? I say yes to the former and no to the latter because the Democrats are still racist and they use race baiting as a weapon. The Democrats are just a bunch of racists. If Democrats weren't idiots, they would be the first to want to let it go

LA Times columnist called Larry Elder 'a white supremacist'

LA Times columnist Jean Guerrero (left) called out Republican gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder (right) on Sunday, saying that he is pushing for a 'white supremacist worldview'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is no Democrat party to forgive.

 

[kaz]

A terrible legacy. They try and justify it with their bullshit mythical argument that ALL racist Democrats joined the Republican Party.

Yes, which of course they can't in any way prove. They just make the lie sans support, which is how they make every argument.

And the voters of the 1950s aren't in any party, they are dead, as I pointed out in my OP.

But as I also pointed out in my OP, the Democrats are still massively racists, so they got the old racists or are making new ones, you tell me ...

 

[kaz]

 

[Moonglow]

A terrible legacy. They try and justify it with their bullshit mythical argument that ALL racist Democrats joined the Republican Party.

Essentially they did which is why Repubs wave the Confederate flag

 

[LeftofLeft]

Essentially they did which is why Repubs wave the Confederate flag

Thanks. I forgot about the Confederate Flag…..Another Democrat Legacy.

Rename the Democrat Party.

 

[Winston]

My great grandfather fought in the Civil War ending slavery in a Michigan unit.

Well then howdy cuz. Michigan units occupied Shelby, NC. One of those soldiers, maybe your great grandfather, raped my 17 year old great great grandmother. That is how my great grandmother was conceived. So sorry if yankees pretending to claim some moral high ground doesn't hold much weight with me. As far as I can tell, no member of my family, and the roots run long and deep going back to the 17th century, ever owned slaves. But I know that my great great grandmother lived a life of shame, never married, and never had another child.

And it gets worse. My great grandmother died during childbirth, my grandmother was raised by her paternal grandparents. She was the sweetest woman I have ever known. She taught me to put cheese on my apple pie, not ice cream. And what I would give to have some of her homemade livermush.

But to your point. Forgiveness for slavery comes when the Yankees in the North willingly accept their responsibility. Paul Revere mentions passing by Mark hung in chains in the poem Paul Revere's ride. You go ahead and look that up. The laughable assumption that all those God fearing Yankees took up arms to free the slaves is just ridiculous. The fact that they raped and pillaged their way through the South a clear case in point. They were no more fighting to free the slaves than the men of the South were fighting to preserve it. If anything, the North was fighting to keep profiting from the slave labor of the South, and the South was fighting to keep it for themselves. Until we come to that realization slavery will always be an open sore for this country.

 

[Winston]

Slave owners were all Democrats

Grant was a Democrat?

 

[mamooth]

When Slavery was being debated in the 1800s, it was the Democrats that sided with maintaining it. When Reconstruction took place, it was Democrats that fought against it. Jim Crow was a Democrat initiative. Democrats resisted Civil Rights legislation until they realized how many more votes they could get.

So you're agreeing with me that the slavers turned into Republicans.

Thank you for that.

So why do you keep sucking up to Republican slavers?

 

[jknowgood]

Wouldn't it just be easier to leave your Republican slaver-party instead of making up reality-defying excuses for them?

That way, you wouldn't look stupid, and you won't end up burning in Hell.

Lol, Clarence Thomas has proved your parties racist way. They are calling him the n word.

 

[jknowgood]

So you're agreeing with me that the slavers turned into Republicans.

Thank you for that.

So why do you keep sucking up to Republican slavers?

The Republican Party was started by Blacks. Lol

 

[Winston]

Lol, Clarence Thomas has proved your parties racist way. They are calling him the n word.

Clarence Thomas? LOL, here you have a black man being lead around like a pig with a ring in its nose, by one fat ugly ass white bitch simply because, well he is a black man with a white wife.

 

[mamooth]

Sore-losers of the right, has your sad revisionist history here ever worked on anyone who wasn't part of your racist cult?

No? Not even once?

So why do it?

Oh, I see. All the other slaver-suckups are doing it, so you feel compelled to bleat along. It's one way that you cloak and justify your racism, by trying to project it on to moral people.

 

[LeftofLeft]

So you're agreeing with me that the slavers turned into Republicans.

Thank you for that.

So why do you keep sucking up to Republican slavers?

Quite the contrary. No slaveowners turned Republican. Where are you getting that? Why would Democrats today not be demanding to rename their Party for such a terrible legacy?

There is no basis in fact that all racist Democrats became Republicans. One definitely stayed; Robert Byrd and the Democrats adorned him and preserve his namesake today.

 

[francoHFW]

Slave owners were all Democrats

We'll never forgive southern conservative leaders for being total schmucks and racists no matter which party they are in, and they are still a racist disgrace to this day. Also blame the little Republicans, the conservative base who are always led down the garden path by their greedy rich lying masters.... blaming the Democratic Party for slavery shows no understanding of history or politics or anything else for that matter, just more brainwashed idiocy from the rubes...

 

[jknowgood]

Clarence Thomas? LOL, here you have a black man being lead around like a pig with a ring in its nose, by one fat ugly ass white bitch simply because, well he is a black man with a white wife.

Lol, he accomplished more than you have. You mad because he got him a white woman?

 

[jknowgood]

We'll never forgive southern conservative leaders for being total schmucks and racists no matter which party they are in, and they are still a racist disgrace to this day. Also blame the little Republicans, the conservative base who are always led down the garden path by their greedy rich lying masters.... blaming the Democratic Party for slavery shows no understanding of history or politics or anything else for that matter, just more brainwashed idiocy from the rubes...

You do know racism was going away, then here comes Obama and you assholes.

 

[Winston]

Lol, he accomplished more than you have. You mad because he got him a white woman?

LMAO. I married Scottish royalty, maybe, if Scotland decrees independence, I will move into the castle. I am mad because a SCOTUS justice can't pull his pecker out to take a piss without asking his ignorant fatass white wife if it is OK. He has no place on the bench, and since he has been there, he has done little, if anything, other than his fatass wife's bidding.