Why Are Some of My Fellow Conservatives Being Irrational About COVID-19 Vaccination?

The vaccines are keeping the cases exploding. Seen in the UK, as revealed by a woman who used to work for Pfizer. want the links, or do you believe me?

The vaccines have only a very limited use, and in many populations, do more harm than good.
There's mounting evidence to suggest that the vaxes are driving the mutations.

Even money that has been foreseen, in order to keep the hype and panic porn going.
 
They also destroyed the control group. Sound normal to you?
This is a good observational study going on here. It appears that those who learn that the manufacturer opted to not have a control-group in the efficacy study do not know how to overcome their white-coat mania which causes them to think nothing of obvious fraud even when it's directed against them.
 
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And again FAIL. Why yes they can test for it. T Cell and B Cell are the key to your own body fighting it off and LONG TERM MEMORY OF IT.

But the jab doesn't last very long. Why they yell at anyone who MENTIONS THE DREADED NATURAL IMMUNITY.
Maybe you need to read your own links before posting them so you don't catch eggs with your face so often.


What does T-Detect COVID mean regarding immunity?

A T cell response is typically detectable in blood as early as several days after initial infection. How long this response lasts post-infection and the implications for immunity are not known.1
The relationship between a demonstrable T cell response and the risk of infection is not well understood.

If you are fully vaccinated, the CDC states that you can participate in many of the activities that you did before the pandemic. To maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission. You should continue to wear a mask where required by laws, rules, regulations, or local guidance.
 
I do, this is a measure of the drugs that go into various organs. Obviously you thought lipids were cholesterol. And I do not care what narcissistic ego driven politician hawked these drugs, Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, or Reagan--I still don't want it in my body. Ever.

The end.
I wasn't thinking anything. I was trying to understand the basis for your beliefs.
 
I did not vote for Joe Biden, but I agree with Biden's vaccine mandate. The vast majority of the new COVID-19 cases and deaths in the last four months have been among the unvaccinated. Thousands of those people would be alive today if they had gotten vaccinated. We gave them over six months to do the right thing. The vaccines are safe and effective, by any reasonable standard. When it comes to a virus, no one is an island; it's not just "my body, my choice" because your choice can harm other people.

My risk of dying from COVID-19 is very low, but I got vaccinated because I don't want to risk infecting others and possibly causing their death. Those who say, "Well, I don't hang around anyone in the high-risk groups." Great, but you might infect other people who do hang around high-risk persons (i.e., the elderly people and the medically ill), and some of those people might die as a result.

Here is some sound scientific information on the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines:




By taking the vaccine and conditioning your immune system to ignore it's own Immune response you have most likely ensured that the virus will live longer and mutate farther. ( You're heart is definitely in the right place....I know this) subsequently...you will harm more people.

Jo
 
By taking the vaccine and conditioning your immune system to ignore it's own Immune response
WTF?

Your body's reaction to vaccine IS it's own immune response. Vaccine simply trains it for the real thing.
 
Maybe you need to read your own links before posting them so you don't catch eggs with your face so often.


What does T-Detect COVID mean regarding immunity?

A T cell response is typically detectable in blood as early as several days after initial infection. How long this response lasts post-infection and the implications for immunity are not known.1
The relationship between a demonstrable T cell response and the risk of infection is not well understood.

If you are fully vaccinated, the CDC states that you can participate in many of the activities that you did before the pandemic. To maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission. You should continue to wear a mask where required by laws, rules, regulations, or local guidance.
Yawn you said it wasn't out there. It isn't the only one and plenty of countries out there are doing T Cell tests to determine how many in the country have already had Covid.

IT MATTERS. Unless you are pushing to make Billions of these BS vaccines.
 
Yawn you said it wasn't out there. It isn't the only one and plenty of countries out there are doing T Cell tests to determine how many in the country have already had Covid.

IT MATTERS. Unless you are pushing to make Billions of these BS vaccines.
Because it ISN'T.

There is currently no reliable, well understood way to test for Covid-19 immunity.

The only thing all these tests show (somewhat unreliably) is evidence of past infection or vaccination. Which implies some sort of protection from the current Covid-19 variants, but extent is not clear.
 
WTF?

Your body's reaction to vaccine IS it's own immune response. Vaccine simply trains it for the real thing.
No..it responds only to a partial identity..because it is not actually a vaccine. It hinders more than it helps apparently.
 

However, recent reports have raised some skepticism as to the biologic actions of the spike protein and the types of antibodies produced. One paper reported that certain antibodies in the blood of infected patients appear to change the shape of the spike protein so as to make it more likely to bind to cells, while other papers showed that the spike protein by itself (without being part of the corona virus) can damage endothelial cells and disrupt the blood-brain barrier. These findings may be even more relevant to the pathogenesis of long-COVID syndrome that may affect as many as 50% of those infected with SARS-CoV-2. In COVID-19, a response to oxidative stress is required by increasing anti-oxidant enzymes. In this regard, it is known that polyphenols are natural anti-oxidants with multiple health effects. Hence, there are even more reasons to intervene with the use of anti-oxidant compounds, such as luteolin, in addition to available vaccines and anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent the harmful actions of the spike protein.
 
Because it ISN'T.

There is currently no reliable, well understood way to test for Covid-19 immunity.

The only thing all these tests show (somewhat unreliably) is evidence of past infection or vaccination. Which implies some sort of protection from the current Covid-19 variants, but extent is not clear.
The virus is beating them hands down and they just don't want to admit it.
 

However, recent reports have raised some skepticism as to the biologic actions of the spike protein and the types of antibodies produced. One paper reported that certain antibodies in the blood of infected patients appear to change the shape of the spike protein so as to make it more likely to bind to cells, while other papers showed that the spike protein by itself (without being part of the corona virus) can damage endothelial cells and disrupt the blood-brain barrier. These findings may be even more relevant to the pathogenesis of long-COVID syndrome that may affect as many as 50% of those infected with SARS-CoV-2. In COVID-19, a response to oxidative stress is required by increasing anti-oxidant enzymes. In this regard, it is known that polyphenols are natural anti-oxidants with multiple health effects. Hence, there are even more reasons to intervene with the use of anti-oxidant compounds, such as luteolin, in addition to available vaccines and anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent the harmful actions of the spike protein.
Exactly.... We have become human guinea pigs. They need to go back to the time test is method of creating an actual vaccine it may take 5 to 10 years of what they're doing now is actually criminal.
 
No..it responds only to a partial identity..because it is not actually a vaccine. It hinders more than it helps apparently.
It's actually vaccine. It makes your body generate spike protein through mRNA instructions mechanism.

Your own body's immune response then attacks the spike protein, training it to better attack Covid-19 spike protein.

What does that hinder?
 
That's not what is happening. People are really, really sick. My coworker has been sick for 10 days, double vaxxed, and even got the monoclonal antibodies.

I do not lie here.

So if you are that sick for that long, there's nothing "magic" about the vaccines that prevents you from spreading to others. You're sick. You're very sick. You're infectious.
You’re not lying but you’re still spreading misinformation. People need to get vaccinated. Your numbers are true but spun. Fact is the unvacc8nated are dying 3 to every 1 of us.
 
Exactly.... We have become human guinea pigs. They need to go back to the time test is method of creating an actual vaccine it may take 5 to 10 years of what they're doing now is actually criminal.
Actually Covaxin is a more traditional vaccine. Even though it's vector based. And it is the WHOLE COVID 19 antigen. But it's not offered here because India made it. No money in that for Big Pharma that way.

It's take what tell you and STFU. Same things these assholes are saying to us here.

OR ELSE never sits well with Americans. Unless their GOD IS GOV'T.
 
There's mounting evidence to suggest that the vaxes are driving the mutations.

Even money that has been foreseen, in order to keep the hype and panic porn going.
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