Why Are Some of My Fellow Conservatives Being Irrational About COVID-19 Vaccination?

[eagle1462010]

You’re not lying but you’re still spreading misinformation. People need to get vaccinated. Your numbers are true but spun. Fact is the unvacc8nated are dying 3 to every 1 of us.

Then OFFER A FUCKING TRADITIONAL VACCINE.

We aren't going to be the Lab Rat for a dang experimental vaccine. And I believe this BS vaccine has made the whole dang thing worse.

Look at the numbers in India and now Africa. They are kicking our asses........and very few in Africa are vaccinated. As a matter of fact the most advanced countries there have the worst results with higher vaccine rates.

SPLAIN THAT.

 

[Oddball]

Ok moron, what science? Maybe you can answer if no one else can.

You wouldn't know science if it kicked you in your shriveled up little beanbag.

All you've psted here as "evidence" is agitprop that oriniates with minions of The State, who need to keep useful idjit rubes like you in a constant state of fear.

I'd be tempted to feel sorry for you, if morally preening asswipes like you weren't so fucking dangerous to those of us who can think rationally and clearly.

 

[AntonToo]

You wouldn't know science if it kicked you in your shriveled up little beanbag.

All you've psted here as "evidence" is agitprop that oriniates with minions of The State, who need to keep useful idjit rubes like you in a constant state of fear.

I'd be tempted to feel sorry for you, if morally preening asswipes like you weren't so fucking dangerous to those of us who can think rationally and clearly.

Thats a lot of words to say nothing at all. If you have nothing then just run along idiot.

Come back when you can point to science that lets us reliably test for Covid-19 immunity.

 

[eagle1462010]

Thats a lot of words to say nothing at all. If you have nothing then just run along idiot.

Come back when you can point to science that lets us reliably test for Covid-19 immunity.

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There are others . Google it. Labs can test T Cells from blood. You are being STUPID.

 

[Ame®icano]

You wouldn't know science if it kicked you in your shriveled up little beanbag.

All you've psted here as "evidence" is agitprop that oriniates with minions of The State, who need to keep useful idjit rubes like you in a constant state of fear.

I'd be tempted to feel sorry for you, if morally preening asswipes like you weren't so fucking dangerous to those of us who can think rationally and clearly.

It's interesting that least knowledgeable people like antontoo and that Admiral, are loudest about "listening to science" while they're the one who's ignoring it.

Take for instance this "moronic" (anagram of omicron) variant, that is discovered back in July in South Africa, for which their doctors say causes mild disease. All western media and governments are creating panic and issuing travel bans (are travel ban racist?), just in time to push for another round of booster shots and vaccines for kids. And experts like this antontoo will scream their lungs out and derail every thread or post that says otherwise.

The same experts that were mandating masks (that doesn't work), and doing lockdowns (that doesn't work), and mandating "vaccines" (that doesn't work), are doing it all over again, proposing boosters, lockdowns, even internment camps... Listen to the experts.

 

[Ame®icano]

Thats a lot of words to say nothing at all. If you have nothing then just run along idiot.

Come back when you can point to science that lets us reliably test for Covid-19 immunity.

 

[Oddball]

Thats a lot of words to say nothing at all. If you have nothing then just run along idiot.

Come back when you can point to science that lets us reliably test for Covid-19 immunity.

The person saying nothing at all is you, Gomer Pyle.

All you got is "LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS!"..."Experts" who have been wrong, moved the goalposts, and straight-up gaslighted the entire nation for going on two years....And true believer saps like you gobble it all up, like kittens at a saucer of milk.

Hell, even most of the QAnon drips have managed to conclude that they were had, and have subsequently STFU....You're not even that smart.

 

[sealybobo]

Then OFFER A FUCKING TRADITIONAL VACCINE.

We aren't going to be the Lab Rat for a dang experimental vaccine. And I believe this BS vaccine has made the whole dang thing worse.

Look at the numbers in India and now Africa. They are kicking our asses........and very few in Africa are vaccinated. As a matter of fact the most advanced countries there have the worst results with higher vaccine rates.

SPLAIN THAT.

Why can’t we solve this? It’s simple. You

So, right from the beginning, most African governments took drastic measures to try and slow the spread of the virus.
Public health measures - including avoiding handshakes, frequent hand-washing, social distancing and wearing of face masks - were swiftly introduced.
In a survey conducted in 18 countries in August by PERC, public support for safety measures was high - 85% of respondents said they wore masks in the previous week.
"With strict public health and social measures implemented, African Union member states were able to contain the virus between March and May," the report said.
Globally, most of those who have died have been aged over 80, whileAfrica is home to the world's youngest population with a median age of 19 years, according to UN data.
4. Favorable climate.

5: Good community health systems​

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, one doctor I trust, and whom I visit once a year. No need for more, we are thankfully pretty healthy faintly.

If you have 10 specialists watching over you, you are very sick man. I hope one of them can help you with your shizo... scratch that, there is no cure for idiocy.

As of proof... Pfizer got fined in 2009 some $2.3 billion (from which $1.3 billion was criminal fine) for bribing doctors and suppressing adverse trial results. It makes you wonder what Pfizer is up to these days?

I don't have a shizo. I have a Shih Tzu that my team of veterinarians care for. He has ever had COVID, nor the shot.

All the more reason Pfizer would NOT be bribing doctor and suppressing adverse trial results. What happens when you rob a bank, got to jail and when you get out the first thing happens is your local bank gets robbed?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's interesting that least knowledgeable people like antontoo and that Admiral, are loudest about "listening to science" while they're the one who's ignoring it.

Take for instance this "moronic" (anagram of omicron) variant, that is discovered back in July in South Africa, for which their doctors say causes mild disease. All western media and governments are creating panic and issuing travel bans (are travel ban racist?), just in time to push for another round of booster shots and vaccines for kids. And experts like this antontoo will scream their lungs out and derail every thread or post that says otherwise.

The same experts that were mandating masks (that doesn't work), and doing lockdowns (that doesn't work), and mandating "vaccines" (that doesn't work), are doing it all over again, proposing boosters, lockdowns, even internment camps... Listen to the experts.

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Stop putting words in my mouth! My God, you must have a room temperature IQ! When did I say anything like what you just posted?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Be aware of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein: There is more than meets the eye - PubMed

The COVID-19 pandemic necessitated the rapid production of vaccines aimed at the production of neutralizing antibodies against the COVID-19 spike protein required for the corona virus binding to target cells. The best well-known vaccines have utilized either mRNA or an adenovirus vector to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

However, recent reports have raised some skepticism as to the biologic actions of the spike protein and the types of antibodies produced. One paper reported that certain antibodies in the blood of infected patients appear to change the shape of the spike protein so as to make it more likely to bind to cells, while other papers showed that the spike protein by itself (without being part of the corona virus) can damage endothelial cells and disrupt the blood-brain barrier. These findings may be even more relevant to the pathogenesis of long-COVID syndrome that may affect as many as 50% of those infected with SARS-CoV-2. In COVID-19, a response to oxidative stress is required by increasing anti-oxidant enzymes. In this regard, it is known that polyphenols are natural anti-oxidants with multiple health effects. Hence, there are even more reasons to intervene with the use of anti-oxidant compounds, such as luteolin, in addition to available vaccines and anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent the harmful actions of the spike protein.

Now, go back and explain what all of that bullshit means! Oh, never mind. With that GED educated mind, you wouldn't get past the first sentence.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Bullshit! That is what your addled brain is telling you.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why can’t we solve this? It’s simple. You

Typical Fascist statement, Same damned tone that put yellow stars on the jews.
You are using Cohersion and threats pointing at us which is FASCISM. That shit just don't set well in America except people like you obsessed with power and control.

The Vaccines are experimental. I'm not taking them. I'll consider traditional like India and NOTHING ELSE. That is my position.

So, right from the beginning, most African governments took drastic measures to try and slow the spread of the virus.
Public health measures - including avoiding handshakes, frequent hand-washing, social distancing and wearing of face masks - were swiftly introduced.
In a survey conducted in 18 countries in August by PERC, public support for safety measures was high - 85% of respondents said they wore masks in the previous week.
"With strict public health and social measures implemented, African Union member states were able to contain the virus between March and May," the report said.
Globally, most of those who have died have been aged over 80, whileAfrica is home to the world's youngest population with a median age of 19 years, according to UN data.
4. Favorable climate.

5: Good community health systems​

Baloney. That didn't make them have those stats. Most aren't vaccinated and they are doing stellar compared to us.

At some point in time maybe you'll go SHIT. WHY DO MY STATS SUCK AND THEIR DON'T. But I guess you are PHARMA'S MOUTHPIECE HERE.

 

[ClaireH]

I guess it's human psychology. Once you "buy in", the product you bought into is automatically wonderful. This is why, even as the vaccines fail terribly, Big Daddy Govco wants everyone to get the shots. The more buy in, the more brainless defenders they have even as the vaccines fail and people get heart problems, blood clots and cancers.

You know Sue, your post brings about a psychological factor that is definitely weighing in here. A person tries to do their best to make their best health choices and falls for the Fauci/NIH heads, CDC, WHO scam. We were told that every single person needed the vaccine, even children. Total lie. Unfortunately and as you know, many US citizens instantly believed it because after all, it was the government’s recommendation.

What’s been happening now for many of these individuals? Buyer’s remorse. Various emotions come into play with that including self-anger, but lashing out at others who didn’t fall for it must be somehow therapeutic, short term. Long term? They just have to deal with it that they were “had” and stop projecting their anger onto those of us who were not.

 

[AntonToo]

The person saying nothing at all is you, Gomer Pyle.

All you got is "LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS!"..."Experts" who have been wrong, moved the goalposts, and straight-up gaslighted the entire nation for going on two years....And true believer saps like you gobble it all up, like kittens at a saucer of milk.

Hell, even most of the QAnon drips have managed to conclude that they were had, and have subsequently STFU....You're not even that smart.

What did you say about actual science? NOTHING.

How did you contradict my well supported point that available tests do not show immunity? You didn't.

So if you have nothing to say about science then maybe the thing to do is to take your own advice and just stfu. You are adding exactly nothing to the discussion.

 

[AntonToo]

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Well as it happens it wasn't me who brought up science here. So why are you not responding to him?

Anyway. Nobody ever asks if one has immunity. Which is the correct question. That's the actual science based query. But they're not interested in that. That's not what this is about. It never has been.

So much for the "they are not interested in science" bullshit. It's you ignorant nutters who are not interested.

 

[badbob85037]

Maybe if you personally knew ones killed by this vaccine it would change the way you think. If it is such a wonder drug we are just suppose to over look the deaths associated with this miracle vaccine. I haven't shut myself in my house and by everything I have learned in life there is no way a virus can be stopped by a piece of cotton but fear is a great thing and I think some would eat shit if some one were told it would save them. If this virus or poison were as spread as bad as it does I would be dead. I know no one who has died from this virus including ones over 80 years old. But I do know ones in their 20's dying of the cure. And what the hell is this booster bull shit? The pharmaceutical industry is not your friend. They care as much as Joe if you live or die. Drugs that have thousands of law suits against them are still being passed off as miracle dugs. Take the over 200 drugs to cure a chemical imbalance, you know the ones that have been involved in EVERY school shooting since the 50's. How many elected officials have called out these drugs as nothing but poisons? None they blame a piece of steel. Mercury, is poison and belong to nothing we eat. Prozac was used by NAZIS in WWII to make their victims go mad. But these poisons are used to cure a chemical imbalance. No one on Earth even knows what a chemical imbalance is. Ya just might think this would explain these crazed ass holes that burn down schools or go through a mall hacking anyone in sight in places that don't have a Second Amendment? Just take your poison and shut up and if you die you can count on your media to cover it up. All at the FDA have financial ties to the drug industry. These drugs are approved by the FDA twice as fast and twice as many.The average profit of each poison to cure a chemical imbalance is $6.5 million a day with over a million people around the earth prescribed these poisons. Remember when we had home remedies that was always at the store and always worked? They all one day vanished because these small manufactures didn't have the funds to spend millions to prove these home remedies worked.

The pharmaceutical industry is the number one lobbyist spending 7 times that of number two and with profits of hundreds of billions a year is plenty to butter every palm that comes along. Government is not Godly or a saint. Unless you know anyone in government that hasn't retired without riches beyond anyone's dream including that fuck Joe.

 

[badger2]

Then OFFER A FUCKING TRADITIONAL VACCINE.

We aren't going to be the Lab Rat for a dang experimental vaccine. And I believe this BS vaccine has made the whole dang thing worse.

Look at the numbers in India and now Africa. They are kicking our asses........and very few in Africa are vaccinated. As a matter of fact the most advanced countries there have the worst results with higher vaccine rates.

SPLAIN THAT.

Fau Chi, Daszak, Baric and the Chinese communists knew what they were doing. American prisoners do not have access to real vaccine: Covaxin.

 

[AntonToo]

Maybe if you personally knew ones killed by this vaccine it would change the way you think. If it is such a wonder drug we are just suppose to over look the deaths associated with this miracle vaccine. I haven't shut myself in my house and by everything I have learned in life there is no way a virus can be stopped by a piece of cotton but fear is a great thing and I think some would eat shit if some one were told it would save them. If this virus or poison were as spread as bad as it does I would be dead.

What the fuck? Surgical masks are always used at hospitals, there actually IS a reason for that.

Covid-19 kills somewhere around 0.5-1% of unvaxed people that get it, where did you get the idea that someone is saying that it will kill you specifically?

Adverse outcome from vaccination are hundreds of times more rare than Covid-19 complications.

We don't have hospitals full of people suffering from vaccine, we have Covid-19 patients.

 

[badger2]

Maybe if you personally knew ones killed by this vaccine it would change the way you think. If it is such a wonder drug we are just suppose to over look the deaths associated with this miracle vaccine. I haven't shut myself in my house and by everything I have learned in life there is no way a virus can be stopped by a piece of cotton but fear is a great thing and I think some would eat shit if some one were told it would save them. If this virus or poison were as spread as bad as it does I would be dead. I know no one who has died from this virus including ones over 80 years old. But I do know ones in their 20's dying of the cure. And what the hell is this booster bull shit? The pharmaceutical industry is not your friend. They care as much as Joe if you live or die. Drugs that have thousands of law suits against them are still being passed off as miracle dugs. Take the over 200 drugs to cure a chemical imbalance, you know the ones that have been involved in EVERY school shooting since the 50's. How many elected officials have called out these drugs as nothing but poisons? None they blame a piece of steel. Mercury, is poison and belong to nothing we eat. Prozac was used by NAZIS in WWII to make their victims go mad. But these poisons are used to cure a chemical imbalance. No one on Earth even knows what a chemical imbalance is. Ya just might think this would explain these crazed ass holes that burn down schools or go through a mall hacking anyone in sight in places that don't have a Second Amendment? Just take your poison and shut up and if you die you can count on your media to cover it up. All at the FDA have financial ties to the drug industry. These drugs are approved by the FDA twice as fast and twice as many.The average profit of each poison to cure a chemical imbalance is $6.5 million a day with over a million people around the earth prescribed these poisons. Remember when we had home remedies that was always at the store and always worked? They all one day vanished because these small manufactures didn't have the funds to spend millions to prove these home remedies worked.

The pharmaceutical industry is the number one lobbyist spending 7 times that of number two and with profits of hundreds of billions a year is plenty to butter every palm that comes along. Government is not Godly or a saint. Unless you know anyone in government that hasn't retired without riches beyond anyone's dream including that fuck Joe.

Americans were given these choices to deal with the Chinese communist virus: mRNA, a human-based non-coronavirus, and a chimp-based non-coronavirus.