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Why Are Some of My Fellow Conservatives Being Irrational About COVID-19 Vaccination?

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Anyway. Nobody ever asks if one has immunity. Which is the correct question. That's the actual science based query. But they're not interested in that. That's not what this is about. It never has been.

They always seem to prefer to control the terms of controvertsy by simply asking if one is 'vaccinated.' Which really only equates to asking people if they have consumed the products that the government has provided these special interest companies a captive market for.

But fascists gonna be fascists. So long as the mandates continue to go unchallenged, and so long as governments continue to provide a captive market for them through mandates, the pharmaceutical companies will continue to lobby government for more of them.

Really, what we're experiencing here is a live exercise to acquire the power they never had, power they have always wanted very badly, which is to mandate all of your medical decisions. They can't do it alone. Government and these special interest industries have to work in synergy. That's what fascism is.

In the past, people incorrectly referenced Obamacare as socialist. This was never the case. It was always fascist.

This outstanding post has been recognized.

Looking at these government mandates, and how many are not just complying, but willingly supporting these government decisions, I can see the parallel and even understand how majority of Germans agreed with everything Nazis ask them to comply with, putting Jews, Gypsies, and other undesirable in camps, removing their rights, killing them. With little bit of propaganda, and mandates, they fall in line the same way Germans did.

Today, that type of people would do the same to you. They think the same, they act the same. They are the same, just times are different.
 

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You don't even understand the fucking homework, you dumbass. My doctors told me to get vaccinated as soon as it was available, and I have to get a booster in the next few weeks because they told me to wait three months after I had COVID. You assholes would argue with a brick wall you are so ignorantly, but apparently your over-inflated ego won't let you.

They were in 100% agreement on my taking the vaccine and they all work at the largest teaching hospital in my state. at the largest university in the state.

My doctor told me that data is promising, but not complete, he mentioned benefits and risks, and said to make decision for myself. He also said that my kids are not at risk and he doesn't recommend because it's not needed.

Your doctors are laughing at you while counting kickback they receive from vaccine makers. Are you ready for the second booster?

You got your two shots, waiting for booster, you're still wearing a mask and nothing has changed. How stupid do you feel? Well, you don't feel stupid at all. Why? Because you're stupid. Really efing stupid. Now you're yelling at everyone who is not vaccinated like you're looking for validation that you did the right thing. We get it. You're protected, we're not. Leave it like that.
 
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My doctor told me that data is promising, but not complete, he mentioned benefits and risks, and said to make decision for myself. He also said that my kids are not at risk and he doesn't recommend because it's not needed.

Your doctors are laughing at you while counting kickback they receive from vaccine makers. Are you ready for the second booster?
One doctor. Let me guess! Your primary care physician.

What kickbacks? Got a link to prove they are receiving kickbacks? Oh, the one you made up in your feeble little conspiracy theory mind?

As I stated I have 10 specialists at a teaching hospital that would not even know that I had the vaccine unless I told them I got mine at Walmart. How would they get kickbacks when they only recommended I take the vaccine. Forgot that little logical reasoning didn't you? I haven't even seen some of them since I was vaccinated.
 

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One doctor. Let me guess! Your primary care physician.

What kickbacks? Got a link to prove they are receiving kickbacks? Oh, the one you made up in your feeble little conspiracy theory mind?

As I stated I have 10 specialists at a teaching hospital that would not even know that I had the vaccine unless I told them I got mine at Walmart. How would they get kickbacks when they only recommended I take the vaccine. Forgot that little logical reasoning didn't you? I haven't even seen some of them since I was vaccinated.

Yes, one doctor I trust, and whom I visit once a year. No need for more, we are thankfully pretty healthy faintly.

If you have 10 specialists watching over you, you are very sick man. I hope one of them can help you with your shizo... scratch that, there is no cure for idiocy.

As of proof... Pfizer got fined in 2009 some $2.3 billion (from which $1.3 billion was criminal fine) for bribing doctors and suppressing adverse trial results. It makes you wonder what Pfizer is up to these days?
 
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The pandemic was predicated on the number of cases; the number of cases was predicated on the results of the PCR-test; the PCR-test did not include clinical observation; the PCR-test does not distinguish between Covid and influenza or other pathogens; the PCR-test does not tell you whether a virus is dead or alive. Thus, the PCR-test was the worst choice among the available alternatives.

From the CDC:

“Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms. The performance of this test has not been established for monitoring treatment of 2019-nCoV infection. This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.”The Centers For Disease Control and Prevention.

“…you can find almost anything in anybody…it doesn’t tell you that you’re sick and it doesn’t tell you the thing you ended up with really was going to hurt you…” — Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD (Nobel Peace Prize Winner inventor of the PCR test).

Perhaps that would explain why this test was not approved for the purpose assigned to it (Covid detection), and had to be given Emergency Use Authorization. What it does not explain is why the highest medical authorities in the land said nothing when an unapproved test that does not distinquish between Covid and Influenza or other pathogens was used to determine the nature of the spread when there were many approved alternative tests that actually work.

Also from the CDC:

Audience: Individuals Performing COVID-19 Testing

Level: Laboratory Alert

After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.

So, not only did the CDC allow for the WRONG test to be used, they were also aware of the existence of many APPROVED alternatives. I am showing you that those in authority watched quietly as labs around the world used the PCR-test despite being fully aware of its misapplication. To add insult to injury, they also said nothing when labs used a cycle threshold of 40+, despite every medical authority (including the CDC and Mr. Fauci himself) clearly stating that a cycle threshold of anything over 35 will produce meaningless results.

From Fauci:

“…If you get [perform the PCR test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication-confident [aka accurate] are miniscule…you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle…even 36…

Can it be that some people actually believe that that was the last time these organization heads and tony would try to deceive them? Or is it more a case of not ready to acknowledge that first deception?

It's not that bad... it could have been worse.

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None exist! The Fear Porn campaign in social media and by the anti-vaxxers on this forum is the only place it exists.

Now that's funny.

A hardcore useful idiot and/or knowing, willing accomplice to the whole fearmongering-based #CoronaHoax2020 is accusing the opposing side of “fear porn”.

Your hoax is based almost entirely on fear porn—on taking what, in reality, would be nothing more than a routine flu/cold, and exaggerating it into a huge fake crisis. You cretins have trashed our freedoms and our economy, for the benefit of criminals who infest positions of power, and to the great harm of individuals and society.

What would the great John Wayne think, if he were alive today, to see his image and the name of one of his characters being used as a symbol of cowardice and lies and fearmongering?

You are unworthy even to speak his name, much less to appropriate his image and identity for your own use.
 

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Lol - what "science"?

There is no conclusive way to know if you have immunity.


And again FAIL. Why yes they can test for it. T Cell and B Cell are the key to your own body fighting it off and LONG TERM MEMORY OF IT.

But the jab doesn't last very long. Why they yell at anyone who MENTIONS THE DREADED NATURAL IMMUNITY.
 

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You are the one who used lipids from page 16 in post #564 as your justification to not get vaccinated, dear. Not me. Clearly you don't understand anything you are talking about. You aren't worried about your health. You are worried about your politics and you are a poor example of a steward.

I do, this is a measure of the drugs that go into various organs. Obviously you thought lipids were cholesterol. And I do not care what narcissistic ego driven politician hawked these drugs, Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, or Reagan--I still don't want it in my body. Ever.

The end.
 

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Lipids are fats. What the heck does that have to do with the vaccines effectiveness? Want to explain that Dr. Sue(ss)?

They are lipid nanoparticles. Not lipids like cholesterol or fat. LNP in the document: Lipid Nanoparticles. Hey, and btw, glad this crap is not in me.

Lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) are the most clinically advanced non-viral gene delivery system. Lipid nanoparticles safely and effectively deliver nucleic acids, overcoming a major barrier preventing the development and use of genetic medicines. Genetic medicine has many different applications such as gene editing, rapid vaccine development, immuno-oncology and treatment of rare genetic and undruggable diseases; all of which are usually hindered by nucleic acid delivery inefficiency.

 

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When confronting SARS‑CoV‑2, the drugs in question — darapladib, which currently treats atherosclerosis; the cancer drug Flumatinib; and an HIV medicine — don’t target the spike protein. Rather, they target one of two other proteins: the envelope protein and the 3a protein. These proteins — especially the envelope protein — hardly change between variants, and even between diseases from the coronavirus family. As such, drugs that target them are likely to remain effective in spite of mutations, Arkin said.
 

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They are lipid nanoparticles. Not lipids like cholesterol or fat. LNP in the document: Lipid Nanoparticles. Hey, and btw, glad this crap is not in me.

Lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) are the most clinically advanced non-viral gene delivery system. Lipid nanoparticles safely and effectively deliver nucleic acids, overcoming a major barrier preventing the development and use of genetic medicines. Genetic medicine has many different applications such as gene editing, rapid vaccine development, immuno-oncology and treatment of rare genetic and undruggable diseases; all of which are usually hindered by nucleic acid delivery inefficiency.

He'll just yell and scream at you saying you don't know anyting. He will post no data and say my 10 specialist doctors trained me to be gods gift to the world on Covid. He didn't know about the cycles of pcr. Or most of the info that is common to us.

I put his ass back on iggy again. Waste of my time.
 

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He'll just yell and scream at you saying you don't know anyting. He will post no data and say my 10 specialist doctors trained me to be gods gift to the world on Covid. He didn't know about the cycles of pcr. Or most of the info that is common to us.

I put his ass back on iggy again. Waste of my time.

The game is disingenuous---Stupid Internet Games. Like saying if you're not an automotive engineer and can't explain exactly how your car works, you can't drive. People resort to these Stupid Internet Games when they have been defeated.
 

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The game is disingenuous---Stupid Internet Games. Like saying if you're not an automotive engineer and can't explain exactly how your car works, you can't drive. People resort to these Stupid Internet Games when they have been defeated.
I've read massively during this plannedemic. You know what amazes me. How people can't look at the numbers of deaths all over the world and not realize we are the ones fucking up. Why I use India and now Africa.

All the Fear mongers said they would be massacred by Covid. As usual they are wrong. India used Cheap home health kits that had the dreaded Ivermectin in it. lol..........Most of Africa isn't vaccinated and their deaths are very low. They use a lot of malaria drugs there.

But they just IGNORE IT.
 

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I've read massively during this plannedemic. You know what amazes me. How people can't look at the numbers of deaths all over the world and not realize we are the ones fucking up. Why I use India and now Africa.

All the Fear mongers said they would be massacred by Covid. As usual they are wrong. India used Cheap home health kits that had the dreaded Ivermectin in it. lol..........Most of Africa isn't vaccinated and their deaths are very low. They use a lot of malaria drugs there.

But they just IGNORE IT.

I guess it's human psychology. Once you "buy in", the product you bought into is automatically wonderful. This is why, even as the vaccines fail terribly, Big Daddy Govco wants everyone to get the shots. The more buy in, the more brainless defenders they have even as the vaccines fail and people get heart problems, blood clots and cancers.
 

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That's not what is happening. People are really, really sick. My coworker has been sick for 10 days, double vaxxed, and even got the monoclonal antibodies.

I do not lie here.

So if you are that sick for that long, there's nothing "magic" about the vaccines that prevents you from spreading to others. You're sick. You're very sick. You're infectious.
In Ireland who have 93% of the adult pop vaccinated...
96% of the vaccinated in ICU have underlying conditions and average age of 67...

Vaccines work but are not foolproof... To not be vaccinated is to either be ignorant, selfish or a combination of both...

Without a very high uptake of the vaccine this will never end... Getting this doesn't make you immune for life and we will contiinue to get outbreaks in rolling cycles... Not taking the vaccine and boosters is to keep promoting that and forcing the Government to have to implement more restrictions...
 

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In Ireland who have 93% of the adult pop vaccinated...
96% of the vaccinated in ICU have underlying conditions and average age of 67...

Vaccines work but are not foolproof... To not be vaccinated is to either be ignorant, selfish or a combination of both...

Without a very high uptake of the vaccine this will never end... Getting this doesn't make you immune for life and we will contiinue to get outbreaks in rolling cycles... Not taking the vaccine and boosters is to keep promoting that and forcing the Government to have to implement more restrictions...

The vaccines are keeping the cases exploding. Seen in the UK, as revealed by a woman who used to work for Pfizer. want the links, or do you believe me?

The vaccines have only a very limited use, and in many populations, do more harm than good.
 

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They also destroyed the control group. Sound normal to you?
No they didn't becuase people like you who are afraid of science are plentiful.
 

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