Czernobog
Gold Member
Now I fully expect that this is going to rather quickly digress into "BENGHAZI!!!", and"But...the emails!!!". That, or a diatribe about how fact checkers aren't, and they just hate Trump, Republicans, and conservatives, in general. But, here it goes.
An article from Politifact. An interesting read. Now, Trump has been making a lot of political hay, at his rallies, and press conferences with "LYIN' Hillary!" But, who, since the beginning of the campaign has actually been caught in more lies by the fact checkers, Hillary, or Donald?
Well, according to politifact, after 650 fact checks of the candidate - 158 of them Trump, and 120 Clinton, so can't even claim that Hillary just hasn't been checked as much - Trump has made 65 statements that were false, and another 30 that were "Pants on Fire" outright lies. Meanwhile, 48 of Clinton's statements have been deemed "Mostly True", with another 16 that are true. Only 15 of her fact checked statements have been found to be false, and a whole whopping one was a "Pants on Fire" lie.
That's 60.13% of Trumps statements that have been either untrue (allowing for the possibility of an error, rather than intentional prevarication), or "Pants on Fire" lies, compared to Clinton's 13.33%.
Now, considering this information on who tells the most lies, the fact that 64% of likely voters still perceive Clinton as "Untrustworthy" in recent polls rather demonstrates how effective Republicans are at crafting the narrative. I mean, don't get me wrong. That same poll also indicates that 64% of likely voters think that Trump is untrustworthy, too. However, considering how much more demonstrably dishonest Trump is, there should be a rather large disparity in those trust perceptions. Yet, there isn't. That speaks volumes of the ability to shape the narrative of the Republicans.
I rather think Democrats need to find a way to change this, or it could be trouble down the road.
An article from Politifact. An interesting read. Now, Trump has been making a lot of political hay, at his rallies, and press conferences with "LYIN' Hillary!" But, who, since the beginning of the campaign has actually been caught in more lies by the fact checkers, Hillary, or Donald?
Well, according to politifact, after 650 fact checks of the candidate - 158 of them Trump, and 120 Clinton, so can't even claim that Hillary just hasn't been checked as much - Trump has made 65 statements that were false, and another 30 that were "Pants on Fire" outright lies. Meanwhile, 48 of Clinton's statements have been deemed "Mostly True", with another 16 that are true. Only 15 of her fact checked statements have been found to be false, and a whole whopping one was a "Pants on Fire" lie.
That's 60.13% of Trumps statements that have been either untrue (allowing for the possibility of an error, rather than intentional prevarication), or "Pants on Fire" lies, compared to Clinton's 13.33%.
Now, considering this information on who tells the most lies, the fact that 64% of likely voters still perceive Clinton as "Untrustworthy" in recent polls rather demonstrates how effective Republicans are at crafting the narrative. I mean, don't get me wrong. That same poll also indicates that 64% of likely voters think that Trump is untrustworthy, too. However, considering how much more demonstrably dishonest Trump is, there should be a rather large disparity in those trust perceptions. Yet, there isn't. That speaks volumes of the ability to shape the narrative of the Republicans.
I rather think Democrats need to find a way to change this, or it could be trouble down the road.
