Who / what kills more Americans...AR-15’s or illegals and their spawn?

[HereWeGoAgain]

According to the HuffingPaintPost 84 people a year are killed with assault style rifles. So you can bet it's more like 42 people.

Here's a list of deaths caused by illegals. It's in the thousands.
Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial

84 times a few decades is well into the thousands, unlike your list.

Most murders are committed by blacks with handguns.

 

[a loss for words]

No, no, no....both doesn’t work unless they kill the same number of Americans.

Someone with an AR-15 can kill way more Americans than somebody without one.

...on a side note,an American can kill more illegals with an AR-15.

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

I went looking for the numbers. No one tabulates them by immigration status. It could be, but I doubt it. Any numbers given by anyone are pulled out of their ass.

Persons incarcerated in California and Arizona show that illegals are substantially more likely to be incarcerated than the general population, especially fort drug offenses. Since we don't know the number of illegals we can't guess at the rates

 

[BlackFlag]

Someone with an AR-15 can kill way more Americans than somebody without one.

...on a side note,an American can kill more illegals with an AR-15.

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

Yeah....those blacks in the inner cities are some murderous mofo's.

A lot of Americans are. Scatter over 400 million guns into any country in the world like we have here and see what happens.

 

[BlackFlag]

Someone with an AR-15 can kill way more Americans than somebody without one.

...on a side note,an American can kill more illegals with an AR-15.

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

I went looking for the numbers. No one tabulates them by immigration status. It could be, but I doubt it. Any numbers given by anyone are pulled out of their ass.

Persons incarcerated in California and Arizona show that illegals are substantially more likely to be incarcerated than the general population, especially fort drug offenses. Since we don't know the number of illegals we can't guess at the rates

Of course they're more likely to be incarcerated. Their entire existence is illegal.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

...on a side note,an American can kill more illegals with an AR-15.

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

Yeah....those blacks in the inner cities are some murderous mofo's.

A lot of Americans are. Scatter over 400 million guns into any country in the world like we have here and see what happens.

Thats why we need guns.
To protect us against criminal illegals and blacks....and of course a tyrannical gov.

 

[BlackFlag]

According to the HuffingPaintPost 84 people a year are killed with assault style rifles. So you can bet it's more like 42 people.

Here's a list of deaths caused by illegals. It's in the thousands.
Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial

84 times a few decades is well into the thousands, unlike your list.

Most murders are committed by blacks with handguns.

Oh yeah well if you include all types of guns it makes the number of murders by illegals seem like absolutely nothing.

 

[BlackFlag]

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

Yeah....those blacks in the inner cities are some murderous mofo's.

A lot of Americans are. Scatter over 400 million guns into any country in the world like we have here and see what happens.

Thats why we need guns.
To protect us against criminal illegals and blacks....and of course a tyrannical gov.

I have long said that the best argument against gun control in this country is that it's easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world, so you may as well arm yourself. For some reason, conservatives don't like that argument.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

If we disarmed illegals and blacks we'd have one of the lowest murder rates on the planet.

 

[a loss for words]

...on a side note,an American can kill more illegals with an AR-15.

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

I went looking for the numbers. No one tabulates them by immigration status. It could be, but I doubt it. Any numbers given by anyone are pulled out of their ass.

Persons incarcerated in California and Arizona show that illegals are substantially more likely to be incarcerated than the general population, especially fort drug offenses. Since we don't know the number of illegals we can't guess at the rates

Of course they're more likely to be incarcerated. Their entire existence is illegal.

That is dishonest. They aren't being incarcerated for being illegal, but for other offenses, mostly drugs.

 

[BlackFlag]

If we disarmed illegals and blacks we'd have one of the lowest murder rates on the planet.

That's what the Nazi's said about the Jews.

 

[BlackFlag]

Theoretically, yes. They use them to kill other Americans instead, though.

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

I went looking for the numbers. No one tabulates them by immigration status. It could be, but I doubt it. Any numbers given by anyone are pulled out of their ass.

Persons incarcerated in California and Arizona show that illegals are substantially more likely to be incarcerated than the general population, especially fort drug offenses. Since we don't know the number of illegals we can't guess at the rates

Of course they're more likely to be incarcerated. Their entire existence is illegal.

That is dishonest. They aren't being incarcerated for being illegal, but for other offenses, mostly drugs.

Who's going to go to jail; the American citizen caught with an ounce of marijuana, or the illegal alien caught with an ounce of marijuana.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

Yeah....those blacks in the inner cities are some murderous mofo's.

A lot of Americans are. Scatter over 400 million guns into any country in the world like we have here and see what happens.

Thats why we need guns.
To protect us against criminal illegals and blacks....and of course a tyrannical gov.

I have long said that the best argument against gun control in this country is that it's easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world, so you may as well arm yourself. For some reason, conservatives don't like that argument.

Being armed is more about protecting us from a Tyrannical gov,protecting ourselves from criminals is next.

 

[BlackFlag]

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

Yeah....those blacks in the inner cities are some murderous mofo's.

A lot of Americans are. Scatter over 400 million guns into any country in the world like we have here and see what happens.

Thats why we need guns.
To protect us against criminal illegals and blacks....and of course a tyrannical gov.

I have long said that the best argument against gun control in this country is that it's easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world, so you may as well arm yourself. For some reason, conservatives don't like that argument.

Being armed is more about protecting us from a Tyrannical gov,protecting ourselves from criminals is next.

Your AR-15 will not put even the slightest dent into any force sent by the government.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

If we disarmed illegals and blacks we'd have one of the lowest murder rates on the planet.

That's what the Nazi's said about the Jews.

Yeah...but Hitler was a lying socialist/democrat.

 

[BrokeLoser]

If we disarmed illegals and blacks we'd have one of the lowest murder rates on the planet.

That's what the Nazi's said about the Jews.

If I were you I’d be motivated to prove his post untrue...Go ahead, we’ll be waiting patiently for your reply...I’m sure there’s plenty of available data to prove him wrong...right?
(If you pretend you didn’t see this post I’ll understand.)

 

[BlackFlag]

If we disarmed illegals and blacks we'd have one of the lowest murder rates on the planet.

That's what the Nazi's said about the Jews.

Yeah...but Hitler was a lying socialist/democrat.

He rose to power by being a radical nationalist who accused globalization and minorities of creating all of Germany's problems. Rumors have it he considered printing a bunch of Make Germany Great Again hats.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I really don’t know the numbers, but if they are what I think they are I’m wondering how to reconcile the Lefty Logic on this one.
If you are a dedicated advocate of a legislative ban on AR-15’s wouldn’t it only make sense to push for firmer legislation on illegal immigration?
If you support the politicians running on the anti AR-15 message shouldn’t you support the politicians running on anti illegal immigration? Oh wait....

An AR-15 was used in just 3 shootings last year resulting in one death... All of them accidental discharges...

Illegals using cars, knives, guns, and other weapons kill over 638 people that we know of.. An AR-15 was not the weapon of choice for illegals according to CJA (US Criminal Justice Administration) reports which do not show even one documented use. This does not include MS13 and other criminal organizations which primarily use TECH9 and other more obtainable and automatic weapons..

What is your source? Not being anal, I would just like to know in my own arguments on the matter. I went looking for the numbers and I could'n find them.

Bureau of Justice Statistics Criminal Justice System Description

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

I went looking for the numbers. No one tabulates them by immigration status. It could be, but I doubt it. Any numbers given by anyone are pulled out of their ass.

Persons incarcerated in California and Arizona show that illegals are substantially more likely to be incarcerated than the general population, especially fort drug offenses. Since we don't know the number of illegals we can't guess at the rates

Of course they're more likely to be incarcerated. Their entire existence is illegal.

That is dishonest. They aren't being incarcerated for being illegal, but for other offenses, mostly drugs.

Who's going to go to jail; the American citizen caught with an ounce of marijuana, or the illegal alien caught with an ounce of marijuana.

Obviously that would depend on state laws.
In a state where weed is illegal the illegal would go to jail and then be deported.

Yeah....those blacks in the inner cities are some murderous mofo's.

A lot of Americans are. Scatter over 400 million guns into any country in the world like we have here and see what happens.

Thats why we need guns.
To protect us against criminal illegals and blacks....and of course a tyrannical gov.

I have long said that the best argument against gun control in this country is that it's easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world, so you may as well arm yourself. For some reason, conservatives don't like that argument.

Being armed is more about protecting us from a Tyrannical gov,protecting ourselves from criminals is next.

Your AR-15 will not put even the slightest dent into any force sent by the government.

The Military would be on our side.

 

[BlackFlag]

If we disarmed illegals and blacks we'd have one of the lowest murder rates on the planet.

That's what the Nazi's said about the Jews.

If I were you I’d be motivated to prove his post untrue...Go ahead, we’ll be waiting patiently for your reply...I’m sure there’s plenty of available data to prove him wrong...right?
(If you pretend you didn’t see this post I’ll understand.)

Cherry pick any groups and you can make that true. Take guns away from anybody with an income under $30,000 a year and we'd have a low homicide rate. Take guns away from white people and we'd have a low homicide rate.

 

[a loss for words]

Not nearly as many as illegals kill.

I'd have to check the numbers, since the homicide rate is so much higher among legal Americans than illegals.

I went looking for the numbers. No one tabulates them by immigration status. It could be, but I doubt it. Any numbers given by anyone are pulled out of their ass.

Persons incarcerated in California and Arizona show that illegals are substantially more likely to be incarcerated than the general population, especially fort drug offenses. Since we don't know the number of illegals we can't guess at the rates

Of course they're more likely to be incarcerated. Their entire existence is illegal.

That is dishonest. They aren't being incarcerated for being illegal, but for other offenses, mostly drugs.

Who's going to go to jail; the American citizen caught with an ounce of marijuana, or the illegal alien caught with an ounce of marijuana.

Being dishonest like this ruins your argument.