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How are the hospitals doing in Florida?Florida is showing a lot of new cases because we are doing a tremendous amount of testing.
However, our death numbers are very low. Like 1/10th that of New York with about the same population.
Voluntary, self-conducted contact tracing? I'm obviously not opposed to that, though I would've thought that doing this would go without saying in the first place, and I'm pretty sure you're approximately the only person using the term to signify anything other than a top down mandate to be performed by a third party.Contact tracing can be as simple as “Shit, I tested positive... Susie, cancel all plans, I’m going off grid for the next two weeks. Hey friends and family who I’ve seen lately... I’m positive, you should get tested.”Nothing's wrong with me, I'm just pointing out that you obviously didn't understand what you were reading. Personally, if more testing means smarter, targeted lockdowns, I'm all for it. Given the level of nuance demonstrated by a lot of these governers thus far, I ain't exactly holding my breath, though. Your hypothetical arrangement strikes me as some overly optimistic apologetics, tbh.Jesus, what’s wrong with you people. Being cautious and treating everybody as POSSIBLE carriers is very different than the isolation/quarantine that KNOWN CARRIERS, would undertake. When somebody tests positive they can isolate to a higher degree as we have done during the shut down and contact tracing can be performed so people they were exposed to can be tested and isolate as well.You've got piss poor reading comprehension. Dude didn't say everybody is a carrier. He said everybody is CONSIDERED a carrier. That is absolutely true. The reason for universal lockdown policies is that even asymptomatic people can spread covid, which means that everybody has to be treated as a viral threat. Another way of saying that is that everybody has to be considered as someone who might right now be viral. And yet another way of saying that is that everybody has to be, and therefore is, considered a carrier of the virus, and therefore everybody has to lock down.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
So the question is valid. If everybody has to be locked down anyway, why bother testing people who aren't symptomatic? So that you can proudly tell them that it's a good thing they stayed home, and that maybe they shouldn't have travelled out just to get tested for something that clearly isn't bothering them?
One is a safety precaution and the other is direct treatment/action
Also, fuck contact tracing. I'm not sure what sort of mortality rate we'd have to deal with before I'd sign off on letting the people in power make it mandatory that we carry tracking devices at all times, but <1% sure AF ain't it, Chief. Maybe you want mommy and daddy government to keep you warm and cuddly and make the bad sniffles go away, but I'm not down to give up my privacy rights to ease your panic.
Sounds like you’re avoiding the question. I’ve heard that many Florida hospitals are reaching capacity. Are you going to challenge that point?How are the hospitals doing in Florida?Florida is showing a lot of new cases because we are doing a tremendous amount of testing.
However, our death numbers are very low. Like 1/10th that of New York with about the same population.
A lot better than the hospitals did in Democrat controlled New York, especially the ones run by the government. Ten times as many deaths.
Democrats fuck up everything they touch, don't they?
Florida would have minimal cases had it not been for the New York filth that came down to infect the state.
And if the only realistic fix turns out to be less stress on the existing test supply?Sounds like we have some problems with our testing system. Should get immediate results. Need to fix that shit, right?A month ago it took less than an afternoon to get covid results...today due to everyone being tested the wait time is 5 days...and that's a huge problem because people won't stay indoors for 5 days when they feel fine....
I’m saying that the actions I just laid out. Getting tested, isolating of positive, informing those you’ve been in contact with so they can do the same.... these are responsible actions that actually make difference.Voluntary, self-conducted contact tracing? I'm obviously not opposed to that, though I would've thought that doing this would go without saying in the first place, and I'm pretty sure you're approximately the only person using the term to signify anything other than a top down mandate to be performed by a third party.Contact tracing can be as simple as “Shit, I tested positive... Susie, cancel all plans, I’m going off grid for the next two weeks. Hey friends and family who I’ve seen lately... I’m positive, you should get tested.”Nothing's wrong with me, I'm just pointing out that you obviously didn't understand what you were reading. Personally, if more testing means smarter, targeted lockdowns, I'm all for it. Given the level of nuance demonstrated by a lot of these governers thus far, I ain't exactly holding my breath, though. Your hypothetical arrangement strikes me as some overly optimistic apologetics, tbh.Jesus, what’s wrong with you people. Being cautious and treating everybody as POSSIBLE carriers is very different than the isolation/quarantine that KNOWN CARRIERS, would undertake. When somebody tests positive they can isolate to a higher degree as we have done during the shut down and contact tracing can be performed so people they were exposed to can be tested and isolate as well.You've got piss poor reading comprehension. Dude didn't say everybody is a carrier. He said everybody is CONSIDERED a carrier. That is absolutely true. The reason for universal lockdown policies is that even asymptomatic people can spread covid, which means that everybody has to be treated as a viral threat. Another way of saying that is that everybody has to be considered as someone who might right now be viral. And yet another way of saying that is that everybody has to be, and therefore is, considered a carrier of the virus, and therefore everybody has to lock down.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
So the question is valid. If everybody has to be locked down anyway, why bother testing people who aren't symptomatic? So that you can proudly tell them that it's a good thing they stayed home, and that maybe they shouldn't have travelled out just to get tested for something that clearly isn't bothering them?
One is a safety precaution and the other is direct treatment/action
Also, fuck contact tracing. I'm not sure what sort of mortality rate we'd have to deal with before I'd sign off on letting the people in power make it mandatory that we carry tracking devices at all times, but <1% sure AF ain't it, Chief. Maybe you want mommy and daddy government to keep you warm and cuddly and make the bad sniffles go away, but I'm not down to give up my privacy rights to ease your panic.
No, you're not. You failed miserably.Checked... I’m goodCheck your reading comprehension skills, moron.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
Then that’s what we would have to do while putting energy and effort into fixing the problems and making the most out of what we can do. Thus far we have not gotten that messaging from the top. All we’ve heard is that our testing is the best and everybody can get tested and we are doing a phenomenal job and it’s time to reopen and barf barf barfAnd if the only realistic fix turns out to be less stress on the existing test supply?Sounds like we have some problems with our testing system. Should get immediate results. Need to fix that shit, right?A month ago it took less than an afternoon to get covid results...today due to everyone being tested the wait time is 5 days...and that's a huge problem because people won't stay indoors for 5 days when they feel fine....
Well your 5 year old seems to be a more competent debater than you cause you haven’t made an argument yet. Just wasting time. Maybe hand her the keyboard for a bit so we can actually get somewhereNo, you're not. You failed miserably.Checked... I’m goodCheck your reading comprehension skills, moron.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
When I just showed her your post, my 5 year old daughter pointed out your mistake within seconds.
I’m saying that the actions I just laid out. Getting tested, isolating of positive, informing those you’ve been in contact with so they can do the same.... these are responsible actions that actually make difference.Voluntary, self-conducted contact tracing? I'm obviously not opposed to that, though I would've thought that doing this would go without saying in the first place, and I'm pretty sure you're approximately the only person using the term to signify anything other than a top down mandate to be performed by a third party.Contact tracing can be as simple as “Shit, I tested positive... Susie, cancel all plans, I’m going off grid for the next two weeks. Hey friends and family who I’ve seen lately... I’m positive, you should get tested.”Nothing's wrong with me, I'm just pointing out that you obviously didn't understand what you were reading. Personally, if more testing means smarter, targeted lockdowns, I'm all for it. Given the level of nuance demonstrated by a lot of these governers thus far, I ain't exactly holding my breath, though. Your hypothetical arrangement strikes me as some overly optimistic apologetics, tbh.Jesus, what’s wrong with you people. Being cautious and treating everybody as POSSIBLE carriers is very different than the isolation/quarantine that KNOWN CARRIERS, would undertake. When somebody tests positive they can isolate to a higher degree as we have done during the shut down and contact tracing can be performed so people they were exposed to can be tested and isolate as well.You've got piss poor reading comprehension. Dude didn't say everybody is a carrier. He said everybody is CONSIDERED a carrier. That is absolutely true. The reason for universal lockdown policies is that even asymptomatic people can spread covid, which means that everybody has to be treated as a viral threat. Another way of saying that is that everybody has to be considered as someone who might right now be viral. And yet another way of saying that is that everybody has to be, and therefore is, considered a carrier of the virus, and therefore everybody has to lock down.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
So the question is valid. If everybody has to be locked down anyway, why bother testing people who aren't symptomatic? So that you can proudly tell them that it's a good thing they stayed home, and that maybe they shouldn't have travelled out just to get tested for something that clearly isn't bothering them?
One is a safety precaution and the other is direct treatment/action
Also, fuck contact tracing. I'm not sure what sort of mortality rate we'd have to deal with before I'd sign off on letting the people in power make it mandatory that we carry tracking devices at all times, but <1% sure AF ain't it, Chief. Maybe you want mommy and daddy government to keep you warm and cuddly and make the bad sniffles go away, but I'm not down to give up my privacy rights to ease your panic.
pushing for no testing, no masks, back to normal reopenings... this is why everything is going to shit again. It’s why I’m calling these people morons. Do you agree?
I’m not claiming that people taking reasonable, critical and skeptical views are morons. Thats you sensationalizing my point.I’m saying that the actions I just laid out. Getting tested, isolating of positive, informing those you’ve been in contact with so they can do the same.... these are responsible actions that actually make difference.Voluntary, self-conducted contact tracing? I'm obviously not opposed to that, though I would've thought that doing this would go without saying in the first place, and I'm pretty sure you're approximately the only person using the term to signify anything other than a top down mandate to be performed by a third party.Contact tracing can be as simple as “Shit, I tested positive... Susie, cancel all plans, I’m going off grid for the next two weeks. Hey friends and family who I’ve seen lately... I’m positive, you should get tested.”Nothing's wrong with me, I'm just pointing out that you obviously didn't understand what you were reading. Personally, if more testing means smarter, targeted lockdowns, I'm all for it. Given the level of nuance demonstrated by a lot of these governers thus far, I ain't exactly holding my breath, though. Your hypothetical arrangement strikes me as some overly optimistic apologetics, tbh.Jesus, what’s wrong with you people. Being cautious and treating everybody as POSSIBLE carriers is very different than the isolation/quarantine that KNOWN CARRIERS, would undertake. When somebody tests positive they can isolate to a higher degree as we have done during the shut down and contact tracing can be performed so people they were exposed to can be tested and isolate as well.You've got piss poor reading comprehension. Dude didn't say everybody is a carrier. He said everybody is CONSIDERED a carrier. That is absolutely true. The reason for universal lockdown policies is that even asymptomatic people can spread covid, which means that everybody has to be treated as a viral threat. Another way of saying that is that everybody has to be considered as someone who might right now be viral. And yet another way of saying that is that everybody has to be, and therefore is, considered a carrier of the virus, and therefore everybody has to lock down.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
So the question is valid. If everybody has to be locked down anyway, why bother testing people who aren't symptomatic? So that you can proudly tell them that it's a good thing they stayed home, and that maybe they shouldn't have travelled out just to get tested for something that clearly isn't bothering them?
One is a safety precaution and the other is direct treatment/action
Also, fuck contact tracing. I'm not sure what sort of mortality rate we'd have to deal with before I'd sign off on letting the people in power make it mandatory that we carry tracking devices at all times, but <1% sure AF ain't it, Chief. Maybe you want mommy and daddy government to keep you warm and cuddly and make the bad sniffles go away, but I'm not down to give up my privacy rights to ease your panic.
pushing for no testing, no masks, back to normal reopenings... this is why everything is going to shit again. It’s why I’m calling these people morons. Do you agree?
We've got a sensationalist media who's business model is to literally blow everything out of proportion for maximum outrage and fear views, so no, when people assume that covid has been blown way out of proportion to serve a profit motives and political agendas, and they respond with skepticism at ANY precaution being presented as necessary by those in power, I don't agree that they're morons. Just human.
Plus, personally, I'm all for the masks and testing. People that need to eat and pay their bills, though, need to be allowed to go back to work. If we can gather in crowds to shout political demands, we ought to be allowed to earn a living.
It sounds like you and I have similar views. I don’t have beef with people like you, from what I can tell. The other morons that you’ve seen in this thread are the ones I’m calling out.I’m saying that the actions I just laid out. Getting tested, isolating of positive, informing those you’ve been in contact with so they can do the same.... these are responsible actions that actually make difference.Voluntary, self-conducted contact tracing? I'm obviously not opposed to that, though I would've thought that doing this would go without saying in the first place, and I'm pretty sure you're approximately the only person using the term to signify anything other than a top down mandate to be performed by a third party.Contact tracing can be as simple as “Shit, I tested positive... Susie, cancel all plans, I’m going off grid for the next two weeks. Hey friends and family who I’ve seen lately... I’m positive, you should get tested.”Nothing's wrong with me, I'm just pointing out that you obviously didn't understand what you were reading. Personally, if more testing means smarter, targeted lockdowns, I'm all for it. Given the level of nuance demonstrated by a lot of these governers thus far, I ain't exactly holding my breath, though. Your hypothetical arrangement strikes me as some overly optimistic apologetics, tbh.Jesus, what’s wrong with you people. Being cautious and treating everybody as POSSIBLE carriers is very different than the isolation/quarantine that KNOWN CARRIERS, would undertake. When somebody tests positive they can isolate to a higher degree as we have done during the shut down and contact tracing can be performed so people they were exposed to can be tested and isolate as well.You've got piss poor reading comprehension. Dude didn't say everybody is a carrier. He said everybody is CONSIDERED a carrier. That is absolutely true. The reason for universal lockdown policies is that even asymptomatic people can spread covid, which means that everybody has to be treated as a viral threat. Another way of saying that is that everybody has to be considered as someone who might right now be viral. And yet another way of saying that is that everybody has to be, and therefore is, considered a carrier of the virus, and therefore everybody has to lock down.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
So the question is valid. If everybody has to be locked down anyway, why bother testing people who aren't symptomatic? So that you can proudly tell them that it's a good thing they stayed home, and that maybe they shouldn't have travelled out just to get tested for something that clearly isn't bothering them?
One is a safety precaution and the other is direct treatment/action
Also, fuck contact tracing. I'm not sure what sort of mortality rate we'd have to deal with before I'd sign off on letting the people in power make it mandatory that we carry tracking devices at all times, but <1% sure AF ain't it, Chief. Maybe you want mommy and daddy government to keep you warm and cuddly and make the bad sniffles go away, but I'm not down to give up my privacy rights to ease your panic.
pushing for no testing, no masks, back to normal reopenings... this is why everything is going to shit again. It’s why I’m calling these people morons. Do you agree?
We've got a sensationalist media who's business model is to literally blow everything out of proportion for maximum outrage and fear views, so no, when people assume that covid has been blown way out of proportion to serve a profit motives and political agendas, and they respond with skepticism at ANY precaution being presented as necessary by those in power, I don't agree that they're morons. Just human.
Plus, personally, I'm all for the masks and testing. People that need to eat and pay their bills, though, need to be allowed to go back to work. If we can gather in crowds to shout political demands, we ought to be allowed to earn a living.
We have all the tests we need we don't have enough lab space...even after H1N1 Obama said we didn't need more labs built and staffed...but he nor any of us ever thought we would see a virus with so many asymptomatic infections...this is different than any virus we ever have seen before...Sounds like we have some problems with our testing system. Should get immediate results. Need to fix that shit, right?A month ago it took less than an afternoon to get covid results...today due to everyone being tested the wait time is 5 days...and that's a huge problem because people won't stay indoors for 5 days when they feel fine....
More proof you’re a moron. Thank youAll who voted yes are morons
Have all the tests you want. Masks on the other hands......well they are like pot. It is breaking the law that is the most fun in refusing to wear one.
Ignoring what I ACTUALLY said is further supporting your dumbassary.Saying everybody is a carrier of the virus is something that you made up in your fantasyland. Not something that is real. Another supporting fact of your moronismMaybe you suck hyena taint when it comes to explaining things?Why are you a moron? Because you don’t understand basic things even after they are explained to you. That’s whyWhy?All who voted yes are morons
We already assume everyone has the virus (lockdown/muzzle mandates). No need to test for it unless you are sick, right?
If everyone is considered a carrier of the virus (like they are now) the only reason to test is to assess proper treatment protocols for people who are actually symptomatic.
So, why don't you explain to me why my position is wrong, and fuck off with your insults.
Watch this short vid you might learn somethingAll who voted yes are morons
what the fuck are you going to ask opinions for if you're simply going to be a dick about it?All who voted yes are morons
That’s actually a very thoughtful statement that I would agree with. Too bad that kind of messaging isn’t coming out of our White House. According to Trump, We are doing the best with testing.We have all the tests we need we don't have enough lab space...even after H1N1 Obama said we didn't need more labs built and staffed...but he nor any of us ever thought we would see a virus with so many asymptomatic infections...this is different than any virus we ever have seen before...Sounds like we have some problems with our testing system. Should get immediate results. Need to fix that shit, right?A month ago it took less than an afternoon to get covid results...today due to everyone being tested the wait time is 5 days...and that's a huge problem because people won't stay indoors for 5 days when they feel fine....
In other virus pandemics only people with symptoms were ever tested...so limiting the testing to sick people and folks that have come in contact with the virus and work related testing is wise at this time....at least until we get more labs up and running....so if you want to somehow place blame for this on the federal government it is misplaced blame......blame the virus for being so haphazard....and evil....blame China for creating this monster....
Not jelly... wearing a mask around people isnt a big deal, it’s not this crazy sacrifice that you drama queens make it out to be.More proof you’re a moron. Thank youAll who voted yes are morons
Have all the tests you want. Masks on the other hands......well they are like pot. It is breaking the law that is the most fun in refusing to wear one.
I am a mask free moron, Jelly.
