Zone1 Who Say That They are Jews and are Not

[BreezeWood]

The New Testament was written long before the 4th century and by Jews. The only possible Gentile would be (Luke).

Quantrill

they spent the entire 4th century writing the christian bible - without an archive of a single document they may have used to write it.

- liberation theology, self determination what they gave their lives for in the 1st century is nowhere found in the christian bible, be it written by who is not as that of those who did write that bible are the crucifiers.

 

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Half truths, of which you are so good at.

(John 3:17-18) "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

The whole world, both Jew and Gentile are under the condemnation of God. The good news is that Jesus can save people from that condemnation. Believe on Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. But if any reject Jesus Christ, they remain under the condemnation of God and their destination is the Lake of Fire.

So, I'm telling them what God told them. What are you telling them?

Quantrill

If one loves God, he loves the Son and the Holy Spirit. Your notional belief in God won't save you from your evil nature.

20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come toward the light, so that his works might not be exposed.
21 But whoever lives the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be clearly seen as done in God.

You can say you believe anything. It's your actions that say what you really believe.

“Those who are well do not need a physician, but the sick do. I did not come to call the righteous but sinners.”

 

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We have great lives wealth and go to the afterlife.

And according to your belief that there is no separation from God... hang out with Hitler.

 

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This is the lie of Christianity. There is no original sin, humanity does not need to be saved, there isa no fall of man, Jesus was man used as an idol and non Christians just dont care. Save youre own damn self

In Jewish theology it's called man's inherent evil nature.

 

[Hafar1014]

And according to your beliefs that there is no hell... hang out with Hitler.

Dont you think that when Hitler came to God he was healed. If there is Hell its full of Mormans and Catholic priests

 

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Dont you think that when Hitler came to God he was healed. If there is Hell its full of Mormans and Catholic priests

I have no idea. Unlike you and Quantrill, I have no idea of the fate of others.

You are full of hate. It might be a good idea for you to start getting right with God.

 

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Not god your god When we have our own beliefs we have no need of yours

There's only one God. I don't believe he cares how people perceive him.

 

[Hafar1014]

There's only one God. I don't believe he cares how people perceive him.

How can you be so vain to think only youre concept of God is the right one.

 

[Hafar1014]

I have no idea. Unlike you and Quantrill, I have no idea of the fate of others.

You are full of hate. It might be a good idea for you to start getting right with God.

I dont hate anything or one

 

[BreezeWood]

Dont you think that when Hitler came to God he was healed.

look who's talking ... forgiveness does no give pass through the gates.

 

[Quantrill]

what you claimed for jews is spurious ...

not everyone is an atheist and would not be in such numbers if the heavens ever engaged humanity in a public forum that has never happened.

those bibles have on every page forgeries, lies and fallacies not to mention their diabolical commandments found in all three desert religions as the same to persecute and victimize the innocent.

Well, that is the thing about God. Your opinion of Him and what He does matters not.

God does as He pleases.

But don't worry, you don't have to believe it.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

they spent the entire 4th century writing the christian bible - without an archive of a single document they may have used to write it.

- liberation theology, self determination what they gave their lives for in the 1st century is nowhere found in the christian bible, be it written by who is not as that of those who did write that bible are the crucifiers.

No, the New Testament was written long before the 4th century.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

If one loves God, he loves the Son and the Holy Spirit. Your notional belief in God won't save you from your evil nature.

20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come toward the light, so that his works might not be exposed.
21 But whoever lives the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be clearly seen as done in God.

You can say you believe anything. It's your actions that say what you really believe.

“Those who are well do not need a physician, but the sick do. I did not come to call the righteous but sinners.”

Except that is not what Jesus Christ said. (John 3:18) "...he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

If one does not believe in Jesus Christ, he does not come to Jesus Christ Who is the Light. (John 8:12) "Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world..."

If one wants to do the works of God, he must first come to Jesus Christ. (John 6:28-29) "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."

One can be a religious person, a good man, one who does many good works and respected in his community. But, if you deny Jesus Christ all that means nothing to God. It will get the praise of men, but not of God. The good that one does without Christ, is just as evil as the bad that one does.

(Rom. 3:10) "As it is written, There is none righteous, no not one:"

And it is written in (Isaiah 64:6) "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags..."

Not our bad things, but our righteousness is filthy before God. Without being clothed in the Righteousness of Jesus Christ, one stands in his own righteousness. And no matter how good it may appear, it is filthy before God.

(Philippians 3:9) "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith."

To be 'in Christ' one must believe on Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Saviour. Only then are you covered by His righteousness.

If one really believed Moses he would believe Jesus Christ. (John 5:46) "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me."

You can say you love God, but if you deny Jesus Christ, you don't love God.

Quantrill

 

[Meriweather]

Except that is not what Jesus Christ said. (John 3:18) "...he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

If one does not believe in Jesus Christ, he does not come to Jesus Christ Who is the Light. (John 8:12) "Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world..."

If one wants to do the works of God, he must first come to Jesus Christ. (John 6:28-29) "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."

One can be a religious person, a good man, one who does many good works and respected in his community. But, if you deny Jesus Christ all that means nothing to God. It will get the praise of men, but not of God. The good that one does without Christ, is just as evil as the bad that one does.

(Rom. 3:10) "As it is written, There is none righteous, no not one:"

And it is written in (Isaiah 64:6) "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags..."

Not our bad things, but our righteousness is filthy before God. Without being clothed in the Righteousness of Jesus Christ, one stands in his own righteousness. And no matter how good it may appear, it is filthy before God.

(Philippians 3:9) "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith."

To be 'in Christ' one must believe on Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Saviour. Only then are you covered by His righteousness.

If one really believed Moses he would believe Jesus Christ. (John 5:46) "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me."

You can say you love God, but if you deny Jesus Christ, you don't love God.

Quantrill

Perhaps consider lightening up the rather harsh interpretations of scripture. Using King James and modern Western Culture perspective gives an entirely different frame of reference from the original Aramaic/Hebrew and Biblical culture. In Biblical culture, one's name was not just a label, but the essence of who one was and represented. 'Jesus' or 'Yeshua' equates to The Lord is Salvation. John also introduces Jesus as The Word of God. These are the essence of Jesus.

It should not be overlooked that Jesus said he was not there for the upright, but for the lost. Those who hold fast to the Word of God, to the fact God is Salvation, have a deep belief in all that Jesus is.

Insisting Salvation for me, but not for thee may very well describe those Jesus never knew. He came for the lost.

 

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I dont hate anything or one

Keep telling yourself that.

 

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How can you be so vain to think only youre concept of God is the right one.

I never said that. How can you be so vain to think only your concept of God is the right one?

 

[Hafar1014]

I never said that. How can you be so vain to think only your concept of God is the right one?

I dont its better for me alone

 

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Except that is not what Jesus Christ said. (John 3:18) "...he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

If one does not believe in Jesus Christ, he does not come to Jesus Christ Who is the Light. (John 8:12) "Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world..."

If one wants to do the works of God, he must first come to Jesus Christ. (John 6:28-29) "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."

One can be a religious person, a good man, one who does many good works and respected in his community. But, if you deny Jesus Christ all that means nothing to God. It will get the praise of men, but not of God. The good that one does without Christ, is just as evil as the bad that one does.

(Rom. 3:10) "As it is written, There is none righteous, no not one:"

And it is written in (Isaiah 64:6) "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are as filthy rags..."

Not our bad things, but our righteousness is filthy before God. Without being clothed in the Righteousness of Jesus Christ, one stands in his own righteousness. And no matter how good it may appear, it is filthy before God.

(Philippians 3:9) "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith."

To be 'in Christ' one must believe on Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Saviour. Only then are you covered by His righteousness.

If one really believed Moses he would believe Jesus Christ. (John 5:46) "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me."

You can say you love God, but if you deny Jesus Christ, you don't love God.

Quantrill

Except the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are one God.

 

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I dont its better for me alone

If you keep misstating my beliefs, I'll keep misstating your beliefs.

 

[Quantrill]

Perhaps consider lightening up the rather harsh interpretations of scripture. Using King James and modern Western Culture perspective gives an entirely different frame of reference from the original Aramaic/Hebrew and Biblical culture. In Biblical culture, one's name was not just a label, but the essence of who one was and represented. 'Jesus' or 'Yeshua' equates to The Lord is Salvation. John also introduces Jesus as The Word of God. These are the essence of Jesus.

It should not be overlooked that Jesus said he was not there for the upright, but for the lost. Those who hold fast to the Word of God, to the fact God is Salvation, have a deep belief in all that Jesus is.

Insisting Salvation for me, but not for thee may very well describe those Jesus never knew. He came for the lost.

You mean the 'harsh Words of Scripture'. The King James translators were quite capeable in their translating abilities. You now attack and question what Scripture says instead of proving it doesn't say that. Dangerous move.

Jesus said, "...They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." (Mark 2:17)

(Matt. 9:13) "...I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

(Luke 5:31-32) "...They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

(Luke 19:10) "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."

Jesus didn't come to call the righteous. But as I showed in post #(533), none are righteous before God. (Is. 64:6) He came for sinners, those who were lost. The problem with fallen man is he doesn't believe he is a sinner needing saving. And religious man believes he is righteous. But God says none are righteous. So if you claim to be righteous before God without Christ, Christ has no interest to save you. He came for sinners. If you don't see you are a sinner, you won't see your need for a Saviour. Salvation is for those who recognize they are in need of salvation.

And, who are the lost?

Quantrill