Lesh
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Surrender accepted
Who is right? Gabbard or Trump?
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Clipper
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Maybe Petey can get his job back on Fox as host of Fox & Fiends weekend edition once Dopetard throws him under the bus.Then you woke up from your dream in your mom's basement.
Those two assclowns deserve each other.
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Bwahahaha
BluesLegend
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Hold on everyone, breaking news from Clipper's mom's basement...go ahead Clipper.
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And the left lambasted Bush when he followed the intelligence reports and you will lambaste Trump no matter what his decision is because that is all you know.
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Well, thats going to depend on who you believe. Some sites say Iran is at 60% enrichment and thats just a hairs width away from 90% that is needed for a nuclear weapon.
If those sites are correct, then wouldn't trump / Israel be right?
Clipper
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I'm not in "mom's basement", Cletus. Btw, where's your place in line behind Trump's ass, ready to plant your lips?
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BluesLegend
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Seems like your mom's basement posted that yesterday, and the day before and so on. Anything new?
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Bibi following the 9/11 attacks in an address to Congress: "Iran, Iraq & Libya are now developing nuclear weapons"! And not a shred of concrete evidence was produced by Bibi to back up his rant. None.
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Not sure what this post has to do with me but go for it! I’m used to your trolling.
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I see that you're not denying it. Now hurry, before you lose your spot.
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What a moronic post. Bush tainted the intelligence to justify the war with Iraq. The UN and other international agencies said Iraq had WMD. Most of us who opposed the Iraq War knew what Bush was pushing was a lie. We were not fools like you going around calling French fries“freedom fries.”
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The Democrats who voted for the war were fools or doing it for political purposes. Clinton lost to Obama because she fell for Bush’s lie and paid dearly for it.
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Who knows but Trump was interviewed on the news tonight and he flat out said Tulsi and his intelligence community were wrong. Only a matter of time before she resigns or is fired.
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You stated: And the left lambasted Bush when he followed the intelligence reports and you will lambaste Trump no matter what his decision is because that is all you know.
Trump is following what Netanyahu is saying. My reply was to show that Bibi has been saying the same thing for 33 years and he has yet to get it right. Trump should believe the intelligence that Tulsi has given him.
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What you see on screen is not always what actually happened!
In the spotlight : news => political drama / Hollywood actors
Behind the scenes: lobbying => the real deal
Who benefited most from Iraq war? And now Iran, what do you think? Americans are not idiots, right?
The main beneficiaries from a war between Israel and Iran appear to be limited, as the conflict largely weakens Iran and consolidates Israel's military dominance, while creating complex regional and global repercussions.
Who Benefits Most?
Israel
Israel has gained a significant military advantage in the conflict. It has inflicted major damage on Iran's nuclear program, military infrastructure, and energy facilities, while suffering limited damage itself despite numerous Iranian missile and drone attacks.
Israel has achieved partial air superiority over Iran, allowing it to strike key targets almost at will. This military edge strengthens Israel's deterrence and regional position.
Israeli confidence has grown due to its operational successes, including the destruction of Iran’s strategic air defenses and the weakening of Iran-backed proxies such as Hezbollah and Hamas.
Israel seized a "golden opportunity" to attack Iran while it was vulnerable, especially after the collapse of Iran’s regional allies and proxies, and with apparent tacit US support136.
Iran’s Regional Rivals and Opponents
The collapse of Iran’s proxies and weakening of its influence benefits regional rivals such as Saudi Arabia and the UAE, who have been targets of Iranian proxies and missile attacks in the past. These Gulf states could gain from a diminished Iranian threat, although they risk being drawn into the conflict if Iran targets their infrastructure15.
Russia (Limited and Mixed Benefits)
Russia may see some short-term benefits as US and Western attention and resources are diverted from Ukraine to the Middle East, and from higher oil prices that bolster Russian revenues.
However, Russia also risks losing a key regional ally if Iran’s regime weakens or collapses, and it currently lacks the capacity to influence the outcome strongly due to its preoccupation with Ukraine. Putin has called for diplomatic resolution, indicating Moscow’s preference to avoid deeper entanglement237.
Who Does Not Benefit?
Iran
Iran is clearly the main loser. Its military capabilities, nuclear program, and regional influence have been severely weakened.
Iran’s proxies have been degraded, and its only state ally, the Assad regime in Syria, collapsed. Iran’s missile stockpiles are running low, and it has failed to inflict significant damage on Israel.
Tehran faces internal political pressure and limited options to retaliate effectively without escalating its own vulnerabilities13.
Global Economy and Regional Stability
The conflict threatens global energy supplies and markets, causing volatility and economic shocks.
The risk of wider regional escalation involving Gulf states and potentially US forces increases instability45.
Analysis Summary
The war between Israel and Iran primarily benefits Israel by consolidating its military superiority and degrading Iran’s nuclear and regional capabilities. Iran is significantly weakened and constrained in its response options. Regional rivals of Iran may gain strategically but face risks of spillover violence. Russia gains some indirect advantages but also faces risks and prefers a diplomatic resolution. Overall, the conflict entrenches instability in the Middle East with adverse global economic consequences.
Thus, Israel emerges as the primary beneficiary in the current phase of the conflict, while Iran suffers the most losses and the broader region faces heightened risks1345.
sources:
1. https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/06/iran-israel-conflict-iran-has-run-out-good-options
2. With the Israel-Iran war, Russia is learning to become irrelevant
3. Twenty questions (and expert answers) on the Israel-Iran war
4. What would an Israel-Iran war mean for the global economy?
5. Israel-Iran strikes: What are the worst-case scenarios?
6. Israel and Iran: A War with No Off-Ramp
7. Can Russia Somehow Benefit From Israel-Iran Conflict? | Russia Matters
8. Who will benefit from Iran-Israel war? -
9. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/18/israel-iran-us-military-intervention/
In the spotlight : news => political drama / Hollywood actors
Behind the scenes: lobbying => the real deal
Who benefited most from Iraq war? And now Iran, what do you think? Americans are not idiots, right?
The main beneficiaries from a war between Israel and Iran appear to be limited, as the conflict largely weakens Iran and consolidates Israel's military dominance, while creating complex regional and global repercussions. Who Benefits Most?Israel
Israel has gained a significant military advantage in the conflict. It has inflicted major damage on Iran's nuclear program, military infrastructure, and energy facilities, while suffering limited damage itself despite numerous Iranian missile and drone attacks.
Israel has achieved partial air superiority over Iran, allowing it to strike key targets almost at will. This military edge strengthens Israel's deterrence and regional position.
Israeli confidence has grown due to its operational successes, including the destruction of Iran’s strategic air defenses and the weakening of Iran-backed proxies such as Hezbollah and Hamas.
Israel seized a "golden opportunity" to attack Iran while it was vulnerable, especially after the collapse of Iran’s regional allies and proxies, and with apparent tacit US support136.
Iran’s Regional Rivals and Opponents
The collapse of Iran’s proxies and weakening of its influence benefits regional rivals such as Saudi Arabia and the UAE, who have been targets of Iranian proxies and missile attacks in the past. These Gulf states could gain from a diminished Iranian threat, although they risk being drawn into the conflict if Iran targets their infrastructure15.
Russia (Limited and Mixed Benefits)
Russia may see some short-term benefits as US and Western attention and resources are diverted from Ukraine to the Middle East, and from higher oil prices that bolster Russian revenues.
However, Russia also risks losing a key regional ally if Iran’s regime weakens or collapses, and it currently lacks the capacity to influence the outcome strongly due to its preoccupation with Ukraine. Putin has called for diplomatic resolution, indicating Moscow’s preference to avoid deeper entanglement237.
Who Does Not Benefit?Iran
Iran is clearly the main loser. Its military capabilities, nuclear program, and regional influence have been severely weakened.
Iran’s proxies have been degraded, and its only state ally, the Assad regime in Syria, collapsed. Iran’s missile stockpiles are running low, and it has failed to inflict significant damage on Israel.
Tehran faces internal political pressure and limited options to retaliate effectively without escalating its own vulnerabilities13.
Global Economy and Regional Stability
The conflict threatens global energy supplies and markets, causing volatility and economic shocks.
The risk of wider regional escalation involving Gulf states and potentially US forces increases instability45.
Analysis Summary
The war between Israel and Iran primarily benefits Israel by consolidating its military superiority and degrading Iran’s nuclear and regional capabilities. Iran is significantly weakened and constrained in its response options. Regional rivals of Iran may gain strategically but face risks of spillover violence. Russia gains some indirect advantages but also faces risks and prefers a diplomatic resolution. Overall, the conflict entrenches instability in the Middle East with adverse global economic consequences.
Thus, Israel emerges as the primary beneficiary in the current phase of the conflict, while Iran suffers the most losses and the broader region faces heightened risks1345.
sources:
1. https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/06/iran-israel-conflict-iran-has-run-out-good-options
2. With the Israel-Iran war, Russia is learning to become irrelevant
3. Twenty questions (and expert answers) on the Israel-Iran war
4. What would an Israel-Iran war mean for the global economy?
5. Israel-Iran strikes: What are the worst-case scenarios?
6. Israel and Iran: A War with No Off-Ramp
7. Can Russia Somehow Benefit From Israel-Iran Conflict? | Russia Matters
8. Who will benefit from Iran-Israel war? -
9. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/18/israel-iran-us-military-intervention/
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