Joseph Kent (director of the National Counterterrorism Center) resigns

[Lesh]

What's your answer to the question in Post # 373 ?

And when it comes to nuclear annihilation, "may" isn't good enough.

Private groups setting off a nuke?

My answer is… stop doing drugs

 

[YoursTruly]

1 Doesnt matter is the threat is "imminent" (whatever that means) or not.

2. So you are idiot enough to think Iran is not developing nukes. Your just dumb, and wasting posting space.

It DOES matter if that's the excuse Trump was using to start this war. It damn well does matter. 100%.
Being lied to, by this administration or any, should matter to you.

 

[protectionist]

Private groups setting off a nuke?

My answer is… stop doing drugs

My answer to your answer - give me one good reason why it could not happen.
Especially with Iran in all the chaotic turmoil that it is in.

 

[Billiejeens]

IQ<5, no patriotism to America, parrots every lie Faux News puts out, still certain Saddam had WMD, and that "the muslims" hit us on 911 = stay in the Only Israel Matters Party, it is where your treasonous self proclaimed sub human ass belongs...

Make your vest go boom.

 

[Billiejeens]

It DOES matter if that's the excuse Trump was using to start this war. It damn well does matter. 100%.
Being lied to, by this administration or any, should matter to you.

Lunatic fringe
Fringe
Fringe

 

[protectionist]

It DOES matter if that's the excuse Trump was using to start this war. It damn well does matter. 100%.
Being lied to, by this administration or any, should matter to you.

NO, it doesn not matter. I guess I have to repeat myself.
If imminent means next week, or next month, so should we wait until somebody is just about ready to blow us to bits, before we take action ?
Shouldn't matter if the time frame is one month, or 6 months, or one year.

When it comes to the matter of nuclear destruction of the whole world, and the massive slaughter of 6.3 Billion non-Muslims, no time is too soon. And those who keep yakking about "imminent", don't really know what the situation is exactly.

Thank goodness Trump & Netenyahu are smart enough to comprehend all this.

 

[protectionist]

Being lied to, by this administration or any, should matter to you.

I didn't hear any lie.

 

[MisterBeale]

This was a great interview. I feel so sorry for all the folks that were MAGA and so loved Trump and what he "claimed," he stood for. . . i.e. everyday Americans. The pain that Megyn feels is palpable, and not unlike much of the reaction on this forum.

Behind-the-Scenes of Trump Admin Ahead of Iran War and Potential FBI Leak Investigation, w/ Joe Kent​

1 day ago The Megyn Kelly Show


Best bits;
Joe Kent Responds to Reports He's Being Investigated By FBI For LEAKING During Time in Trump Admin

Why Joe Kent Believes There's MUCH More To Investigate Related to the Charlie Kirk Assassination

The betrayal has been complete. But this really isn't anything that every single politician since JFK hasn't done as well. Kamala would have been no different.

 

[TNHarley]

No one asked you to work for them, buffoon.

Please learn to forum, dickhead.

 

[Churchill]

I think trump will soon throw Hegseth under the bus, its a great way to create an off ramp and blame bad military advice as the real cause of all this, trump gets out of the mess, Israel isn't implicated etc.

Well Whaddaya know, took just one week for my prediction to come true:

Hegseth forces a smile as Trump suggests Iran war was his idea

Speaking Monday at a conference in Tennesse, Trump said: 'I called a lot of our great people... and I said,

www.dailymail.co.uk

Trump can only hire riff raff these days, decent people know only too well that he plays the blame game to hide his own incompetence and decent, intelligent people don't need that kind of job, only the dregs, bottom of the barrel, drunks, Fox rejects, rapists, buffoons are desperate enough to get on the trump bandwagon and it always ends badly for them.

 

[YoursTruly]

Well Whaddaya know, took just one week for my prediction to come true:

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Hegseth forces a smile as Trump suggests Iran war was his idea

Speaking Monday at a conference in Tennesse, Trump said: 'I called a lot of our great people... and I said,

www.dailymail.co.uk

Trump can only hire riff raff these days, decent people know only too well that he plays the blame game to hide his own incompetence and decent, intelligent people don't need that kind of job, only the dregs, bottom of the barrel, drunks, Fox rejects, rapists, buffoons are desperate enough to get on the trump bandwagon and it always ends badly for them.

I don't see where Trumps throwing Hegseth under a bus.

The article says that's what happening. But I don't see it. No awkward reaction. Nothing.

I'm against this war. And about 90% against Trumps actions (on other issues) But I'm even more against fake, click bait news.

 

[Churchill]

I don't see where Trumps throwing Hegseth under a bus.
The article says that's what happening. But I don't see it. No awkward reaction. Nothing.

I'm against this war. And about 90% against Trumps actions (on other issues) But I'm even more against fake, click bait news.

Trump said:

"I called a lot of our great people... and I said, "Let's talk. We got a problem in the Middle East. We have a country known as Iran that, for 47 years, has been just a purveyor of terror, and they're close to a nuclear weapon."'

Turning to Hegseth who was sitting to his right, Trump added: 'And Pete, I think you were the first one to speak up. And you said, “Let’s do it, because you can’t let them have a nuclear weapon."'

So forget the apparent "clickbait" those are the words trump used. Trump always credits himself for things he sees as successful and blames others for things he sees as failures.

If trump was pleased with the state of the war he'd be saying something different like "We have good people, lots of great people but you know sometimes you gotta make real tough choices and that's why I said "We gotta hit em, we just gotta do it'".

That's the pattern, when trump credits people as he did Hegseth, he's preparing to blame them, not today, but soon, he's creating a pretext, that's a common pattern I've observed over the years anyway.

 

[YoursTruly]

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So forget the apparent "clickbait" those are the words trump used. Trump always credits himself for things he sees as successful and blames others for things he sees as failures.

If trump was pleased with the state of the war he'd be saying something different like "We have good people, lots of great people but you know sometimes you gotta make real tough choices and that's why I said "We gotta hit em, we just gotta do it'".

That's the pattern, when trump credits people as he did Hegseth, he's preparing to blame them, not today, but soon, he's creating a pretext, that's a common pattern I've observed over the years anyway.

I read and listened to Trumps remarks. It's more of an "we agree" than anything.

And no, don't have my blinders on. I can see the click bait built into this. It's the same clickbait BS they're trying to use about Kent marrying after his wife was killed.

The fake outrage is very clear.

The point: There's plenty of reasons to go after Trump. Plenty of things he's gotten wrong. Way more important things.
Why not stick with those, instead of the made up ones? Otherwise you end up looking like Trump or the fake news.

 

[Churchill]

I read and listened to Trumps remarks. It's more of an "we agree" than anything.

And no, don't have my blinders on. I can see the click bait built into this. It's the same clickbait BS they're trying to use about Kent marrying after his wife was killed.

The fake outrage is very clear.

The point: There's plenty of reasons to go after Trump. Plenty of things he's gotten wrong. Way more important things.
Why not stick with those, instead of the made up ones? Otherwise you end up looking like Trump or the fake news.

I totally agree the Daily Mail is mostly click bait, I chose it mainly because the photograph conveys what I see as the typical outcome of loyalty to trump. Trump's words typify his approach to distancing himself from his own decisions.

He doesn't seem to grasp that firing his own hires at the rate he does, more or less proves his inability to build a string cohesive team.

Any senior manager in a rea world organization who hired/fired at that rate would themselves be fired.

Will Hegseth get fired? of course I don't know but if trump is forced to make an exit I'd be surprised if he would take any blame, he never does, if he doesn't blame Hegseth he might blame Obama or Biden.

 

[YoursTruly]

I totally agree the Daily Mail is mostly click bait, I chose it mainly because the photograph conveys what I see as the typical outcome of loyalty to trump. Trump's words typify his approach to distancing himself from his own decisions.

He doesn't seem to grasp that firing his own hires at the rate he does, more or less proves his inability to build a string cohesive team.

Any senior manager in a rea world organization who hired/fired at that rate would themselves be fired.

Will Hegseth get fired? of course I don't know but if trump is forced to make an exit I'd be surprised if he would take any blame, he never does, if he doesn't blame Hegseth he might blame Obama or Biden.

Had Kent not said a word about his actual reasons for resigning... Had he left while applauding Trump for this war, none of the Trump supporters (nor Trump) would've said a bad word against him.

They turn on those who lose their loyalty.

That is the crux of all this. Loyalty to Trump. Or a lack of.

It's the same way in this forum. Even if you call Trump out on something Biden did wrong also, the Trump tribe goes on the attack. And they'll never acknowledge that Biden did the same thing.

 

[Billiejeens]

The plot thickens -

This story is wild. , but apparently, former National Counterterrorism Center head Joe Kent offered to testify in the trial of Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, for the defense.

Michael Shellenberger of Public wrote a post about these allegations, specifically that Kent felt the FBI didn’t properly investigate the crime, believed there was a “foreign nexus,” and yes, Israel was part of this crazy story, although Kent couldn’t provide anything conclusive.

He also claimed he was blocked from investigating this matter further, which is reportedly bunk since his agency had no authority to analyze what had been collected

 

[Delldude]

Director of the National Counterterrorism Center has had enough.

His own words....